MuEagles79 & Kurzdog secret alliance [noted]

[buddha00man]

Mueagles79 & Kurzdog not only had a in game truce which would have been fine except muEagles was a weaker player so he refused to attack the stronger kurzdog but i believe they have a secret alliance if you check kurzdog games there are numerous private games w/ these two players & it seems they know each other on a first name basis. This guy left me negative feedback claiming i was telling him how to play..I just wanted a chance to win, but since mueagles had a truce w/ kurzdog he wouldnt attack him! Check out the game log & ya i called mueagles an idiot because he was letting someone else win but obviously he was a cheat because mueagles & kurzdog know each other & therefore the intergrity of the game was compromised!

http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=2029703
[list]
[*][player]MuEagles79[/player]
[*][player]Kurzdog[/player]
[*][player]yemphan[/player]


The accused are suspected of:
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[*]Having a secret alliance




Game number(s):
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[*]Game 2029703
[*]Game 1756207
[*]Game 1676983
[*]Game 1554781
[*]Game 1409734

[scarface99x]

Well just from looking at a few of those games its hard to tell. Seems they come in with the intent of pretty much teaming up, but they do announce there alliance so bit tricky. Probably just leave them feedbacks about what you suspect. IDK maybe the mods will find something else.

[king achilles]

Obviously, from some the games you posted here, by how they call the other, they appear to know each other in real life. They do announce a truce should they feel they need to, so they are still following the rules.
According to you, muEagles refused to attack kurzdog, the stronger player, as you thought he should have. This is just a case of different game styles. We try not to get involved in disputes over strategy and gameplay, and just because one player didn't attack someone because you think he should have, does not constitute an automatic secret alliance. It is not against the rules for people, who know each other in real life, to play together. Place them in your foe's list if you don't want to play them again and feel free to leave a feedback about your suspicions, as long as you back it up with back it up with supportive facts from the game.

[MuEagles79]

thanks King for clearing up that myself & Kurzdog didn't have a secret alliance in the Soviet Union game.

Can anything be done about the harassing emails Buddha00man has been sending me?

I have already added this user to my ignore list. Will this solve the problem?

[buddha00man]

harrassing emails?? i simply sent this person a note stately i wasnt telling him how to play but his secret alliance was bs! & i was calling him out. He was the one who took it upon himself to leave negative feedback at the first chance he got & continue this past the game itself! I feel the neg. feedback was uncalled for, therefore i pursued the matter to this point. If mueagles79 feels this is all uncalled perhaps he should have left the comments in game, instead of posting neg. feedback that i feel was uncalled for. You dont call someone out then go running away & complain about being harrassed. I consider this matter closed even thou i feel there was a secret alliance to allow his friend (kurzdog) to win & i respect CC response to this matter.

[yemphan]

How'd my name get dragged into this mud? I can vouch that MUEagles79 and Kurzdog do not personally know each other. They were both brought onto the site by me and are separate friends of mine who do not know each other, except through cc. They get into the same games because they are on the same email list that goes out with private game passwords amongst my friends and others.

P.S. It looks like the truce was spelled out in the game log anyway. Quit your bitchin' and win some games.

[buddha00man]

thank your buddy mueagles79 for this if he had not been a lil bitch & posted neg. feedback this could have remained in game!

[MuEagles79]

here is Buddha's comments in the game which led to my negative feedback

"2008-04-01 14:49:30 - buddha00man: not telling u what u could do before...just seems u & blue still have a truce going which is stupid since blue is obviously gonna win now!
2008-04-01 19:04:21 - buddha00man: wow!!!! red refuses to attack blue so blue can win the again.....mueagle your an idiot!!!
2008-04-01 19:07:07 - buddha00man: gg blue make sure you thank red for it!!


you reap the seeds you sow Buddha...

[buddha00man]

yup i think that sums up my argument right there red (mueales79)refused to attack blue(kurzdog) thus giving blue the game. not sure how that warrents neg. feedback. but you asked for it mueagles79 & your right you do reap what you sow! but then you had to go crying to mods because poor lil fella was getting "harrassed" maybe next time you should think twice about throwing a game to your friend then leaving neg. feedback to someone who called you out on it!! When you get pair be sure to let us here know!

[MuEagles79]

read the bold comments....calling another user an idiot for making a strategy decision warrants negative feedback so the community can know what a jerk you are

if you don't want negative feedback, apologize for your comments/behavior and I will withdraw my comments.

[buddha00man]

you keep saying it was a strategy decision to let your friend win, not sure why i should apologise for that, & btw when i said i didnt think the truce was fair this late in the game YOU were the one who got all defensive

2008-04-01 03:29:52 - buddha00man: dont think at this stage a truce is fair!!! blue is obviously the strongest & a truce between red/blue will only aid blue!
2008-04-01 12:48:26 - MuEagles79: my offer of truce came way before YOU eliminated Venom....so don't try and tell me what I can do in my best self interest
2008-04-01 19:49:30 - buddha00man: not telling u what u could do before...just seems u & blue still have a truce going which is stupid since blue is obviously gonna win now!

not sure how you can sit there & tell me a truce/alliance w/ your friend is strategy?? a failed strategy at that, except for kurzdog. Would have been more then happy to let this issue die in game but you had to push the matter to neg. feedback, so now here we are, im just sorry CC couldnt find a secret alliance between you & kurzdog although i believe the evidence is there i guess when your friends & you call a truce in game somehow that makes it ok to cheat. I mean how convient that the only truce you make is w/ your friend & who also happens to be the strongest player in the game, & just so happens to win the game! Hmmm, anyway as you once told me "go pound sand" if CC wont watch you then i will take it upon myself to do it!

[MuEagles79]

You called another conquerclub user an idiot for making the strategy decision of not committing suicide against the much stronger player when that was the only means of survival and maintaining my bonus.

everyone knows you are in the wrong but then again I don't expect a user like yourself who has an avatar like yours to admit you are wrong.

my offer of withdrawing my feedback stands if you want to apologize for calling me an idiot

if not, my negative feedback stands for your unnecessary behavior.

[buddha00man]

Yes this is true!! because most people make an alliance against the stronger player not w/ them, most people will agree w/ that & if by "everyone" knows im wrong then these "everyone" are obviously friends of yours. What the hell does my avatar have to do w/ anything! unless of course one doesnt like boobs & pussy. If you dont like being called an idiot then tell everyone how you made an alliance w/ your friend that allowed your friend to win the game & stop calling it a "strategy" & i will just call you a cheat!

[MuEagles79]

Yes this is true!! because most people make an alliance against the stronger player not w/ them, most people will agree w/ that & if by "everyone" knows im wrong then these "everyone" are obviously friends of yours. What the hell does my avatar have to do w/ anything! unless of course one doesnt like boobs & pussy. If you dont like being called an idiot then tell everyone how you made an alliance w/ your friend that allowed your friend to win the game & stop calling it a "strategy" & i will just call you a cheat!

so now you are saying King Achilles is in on the "cheating"?....interesting call out...oh...and interesting choice of language and a public forum

[buddha00man]

what forum are you reading??? i didnt say anything about "king Achilles" you are the one that has kept saying "everyone" knows im in the wrong so i assume these are your friends! because your so called "strategy" only favored your friend & allowed your friend to win....now see if you can follow this....early on in the game you made a truce w/ your friend/ strongest player. when the game got down to 3 players you w/ one bonus, your friend w/ the strongest bonus & me w/ a 3 bonus i attacked the strongest & you did nothing & then attacked me & my bonus thus giving the game to your friend! these are the facts!! you claim it was a "strategy" & if your "strategy" was for you & i to lose & your friend to win, will then i guess it was a good "strategy" because that is how it happened. Make sure you read this twice so you understand before you respond & i hope my language here doesnt upset you too much as you are obviously the sensitive type!

[MuEagles79]

Yes this is true!! because most people make an alliance against the stronger player not w/ them, most people will agree w/ that & if by "everyone" knows im wrong then these "everyone" are obviously friends of yours. What the hell does my avatar have to do w/ anything! unless of course one doesnt like boobs & pussy. If you dont like being called an idiot then tell everyone how you made an alliance w/ your friend that allowed your friend to win the game & stop calling it a "strategy" & i will just call you a cheat!

reference King Achilles post above...apparently you are lumping him in with everyone...interesting calling out the moderator...not the way I would go about it, but then again, you aren't the sharpest tool in the shed

answer me this riddle bat boy....how many armies did I have along my border with Kurzdog and how many armies did he have along that same border? It would be amazing if you knew this seeing as IT WAS A FOG GAME!!!!

Let me repeat this a final time....my only hope of survival was to attack you, eliminate you, grab your cards and have a showdown with Kurzdog. Attacking Kurzdog would have been suicide for me. Having a truce with him allowed me to keep my bonus and attack & try to eliminate you which gave me the greatest chance to win. That chance was slim but it was better than doing a suicide run on Kurzdog.

Still waiting for you to retract your Idiot comment because that is the reason why I gave you negative feedback...if you don't like it, deal with it.

[buddha00man]

jfc king achilles only said they dont get involved in strategies....regardless of how stupid they may be & i have no idea how many armies kurz had along his borders but i do know after i knocked down his bonus he had to reinforce from somewhere, any smart player would have seen this as an opertunity to attack stronger player! but i dont expect you to know anything about "good strategy" it was clear the winner was either gonna be me or kurz. & because you called a bs truce early in the game then continued it & thus allowed your friend to win CC is not able to do anything & how convient that you & kurz are friends & secret alliances are hard to prove but the evidence speaks volumes so you are either a cheat or an idiot w/ a flawed bs "strategy" so feel free to pick one!!... & perhaps you & your cronies should stick to private games in the future where you all can cheat & have all the secret alliances you want & not ruin the integrity of the game for others!

btw if your only hope for survival was to attack me.....mmmm how come you didnt win??? i mean your "strategy" seems sound...you should have won!
















idiot!

[MuEagles79]

& i have no idea how many armies kurz had along his borders


and there it is...you have no idea what you are talking about so shut up already
















idiot!

[buddha00man]

wow!!! nice cut & paste to use for your argument dont bother defending the rest just stick to that lame argument of "he had too many armies" because you refused to attack him!!!it really makes no difference how many armies he had your "strategy" was flawed because YOU LOST! just admit your either an idiot or a cheat....which allowed your friend kurzdog to win, you only have to make one choice so make it count!! dont be scared unlike when you didnt attack your friend!

[king achilles]

If you two keep this up, this thread will be moved to flame wars. This is not the forum to argue your own point of views for each other.

[MuEagles79]

If you two keep this up, this thread will be moved to flame wars. This is not the forum to argue your own point of views for each other.

Sounds good King...I am done hitting my head against a wall.

[buddha00man]

noted king

"I am done hitting my head against a wall"...............explains alot!

[KLOBBER]

Can anything be done about the harassing emails Buddha00man has been sending me?

I have already added this user to my ignore list. Will this solve the problem?

Adding him to your ignore list (or "foes," as it's called now), will prevent him from joining in any games in which you have already joined, and also will block his forum and game chat posts from showing on your computer screen. I have used this great new feature with a certain number of utter turd-stuffed vermin, such as spyhunter, dancing mustard, ovo, and oggiss, and it works like a charm!

I don't think it prevents them from sending you emails (or PM's as they're called on CC), and I don't know whether you can block specific members from PM-ing you, but I do know that you can now turn your PM's off altogether (another great new feature), and so now you never have to receive unwanted PM's from any annoying member (unless that annoying member also happens to be a moderator -- behavior that some of them, such as wicked and twill, are unprofessional and immature enough to not be above).

I suggest you turn of your PM's, or look into the new control panel more closely to see if you can block specific members from contacting you. There are so many childish assholes, like the ones I mentioned above, who have nothing better to do than harass innocent paying members like myself, that I have found these new features to be a real Godsend.

Best wishes,

Klobber