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saxitoxin wrote:Your position is more complex than the federal tax code. As soon as I think I understand it, I find another index of cross-references, exceptions and amendments I have to apply.
Timminz wrote:Yo mama is so classless, she could be a Marxist utopia.
MeDeFe wrote:Hey, you just went from 15:1 to 100:1 by leaving out all of those who failed, quite impressive maths.

Napoleon Ier wrote:You people need to grow up to be honest.
MeDeFe wrote:Hey, you just went from 15:1 to 100:1 by leaving out all of those who failed, quite impressive maths.
Neoteny wrote:Is there any institution that isn't run by "learned professionals in ivory towers?" Maybe we should have peanut farmers from Americus read us the news?
Perhaps we should consider why the media and universities and other bastions of liberalism are so politically liberal. And why is this an issue? Fox has made it perfectly clear that a conservative biased news source can flourish in this environment, so you have your options. I don't think you have a problem with the bias, I think you have a problem with the bias to the left.
InkL0sed wrote:TV news isn't news, I'm sorry. All any station talks about is the election. It's completely "cheer-leading" - at least FOX and MSNBC don't really hide it. That's why I hate CNN, they try to pretend they actually do good reporting.
The only good, real news report you'll find on TV is on Channel 13.
Napoleon Ier wrote:You people need to grow up to be honest.
Neoteny wrote:InkL0sed wrote:TV news isn't news, I'm sorry. All any station talks about is the election. It's completely "cheer-leading" - at least FOX and MSNBC don't really hide it. That's why I hate CNN, they try to pretend they actually do good reporting.
The only good, real news report you'll find on TV is on Channel 13.
In Nobunaga's defense, I think print publications are included in his numbers. Here are some more numbers:
John McCain has accepted over 1 million American dollars in contribution related to oil and gas.
Barack Obama has accepted over $200,000 as of February 29th from the same industry.
Newsflash! Oil companies support John McCain!
No shit!
That's kinda behind the idea of a bipartisan system. People support who they feel will act according to their beliefs/opinions/interests. As far as a media bias goes, they don't owe you anything. Free market rule: as long as they are getting paid, that is all that matters. Intelligent people such as you and I, Nobunaga, are fully capable of seeing and interpreting information, wading through the bias inherent in most human systems. I don't know any news stations that really claim a completely non-biased approach (I consider "fair and balanced" to be a joke).
If you want a right wing bias, you know where to look. If you want a left wing bias, you know where to look. If you want minimal bias, there are places you can go. If you want no bias, do the research yourself. Just don't vote Republican because gas prices have gone down in your area.
Well, he's not a conservative for one, which accounts for quite a few political views. Then there's all the platitudes.Nobunaga wrote:... Well, perhaps you and I can wade through the bias to see what's at the end... But I have to say I'm not overly impressed with the average American's grasp of things.Neoteny wrote:In Nobunaga's defense, I think print publications are included in his numbers. Here are some more numbers:InkL0sed wrote:TV news isn't news, I'm sorry. All any station talks about is the election. It's completely "cheer-leading" - at least FOX and MSNBC don't really hide it. That's why I hate CNN, they try to pretend they actually do good reporting.
The only good, real news report you'll find on TV is on Channel 13.
John McCain has accepted over 1 million American dollars in contribution related to oil and gas.
Barack Obama has accepted over $200,000 as of February 29th from the same industry.
Newsflash! Oil companies support John McCain!
No shit!
That's kinda behind the idea of a bipartisan system. People support who they feel will act according to their beliefs/opinions/interests. As far as a media bias goes, they don't owe you anything. Free market rule: as long as they are getting paid, that is all that matters. Intelligent people such as you and I, Nobunaga, are fully capable of seeing and interpreting information, wading through the bias inherent in most human systems. I don't know any news stations that really claim a completely non-biased approach (I consider "fair and balanced" to be a joke).
If you want a right wing bias, you know where to look. If you want a left wing bias, you know where to look. If you want minimal bias, there are places you can go. If you want no bias, do the research yourself. Just don't vote Republican because gas prices have gone down in your area.
... I'm not as "neocon" as most seem to think (not a neocon at all, actually), it's the ignorant following of a leadr by people based almost entirely on the 10 minutes or so of "news" they are forced to watch while waiting for Family Guy to start. I don't care if they love Obama, but I have yet to meet anybody personally who can explain to me why they love this guy beyond the sphere of platitudes.
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Napoleon Ier wrote:You people need to grow up to be honest.
Aggressive Reporter Picks on the Wrong MarkNobunaga wrote:
... I don't care if they love Obama, but I have yet to meet anybody personally who can explain to me why they love this guy beyond the sphere of platitudes.
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pimpdave wrote: Aggressive Reporter Picks on the Wrong Mark
... Hey, Pimp, you an Obama supporter? Tell us why, and be specific. (and no, "He's not a neocon" is not specific.)pimpdave wrote:pimpdave wrote: Aggressive Reporter Picks on the Wrong Mark
Did no one watch that video? Did Derrick's reasoning finally silence all of you neocons? I'm sure you can flip out and find some way to counter it with a bunch of ridiculous, unsubstantiated claims.
Allow me to injerject that if you are voting for Mccain i find it rather odd that you would cite gas prices and immigration as areas where hes likely to diverge widely enough to justify a vote one way or the other.Nobunaga wrote:... Hey, Pimp, you an Obama supporter? Tell us why, and be specific. (and no, "He's not a neocon" is not specific.)pimpdave wrote:pimpdave wrote: Aggressive Reporter Picks on the Wrong Mark
Did no one watch that video? Did Derrick's reasoning finally silence all of you neocons? I'm sure you can flip out and find some way to counter it with a bunch of ridiculous, unsubstantiated claims.
... War, immigration, gas prices, huge national debt - hit on those in your answer.
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Actually, he represents the same. He just has a clean slate when it comes to lying to you so fools believe him. The DNC and GOP are corporations, incorporated. You dont think they're just gonna let some black guy walk in off the street and tell them how to run their business unless it's in their plan do you? Ron Paul represented change and that is why McCain is there instead.Johnny Rockets wrote:Obama represents change,......
Ah yes, Bill O'rly instigated that one. Anytime you do the opposite of what he calls for, you're most likely making the right choice. I wonder how many of his retards went out and bought french wine to pour down the gutterJohnny Rockets wrote:Years ago you were pouring French wine into the street......
HapSmo19 wrote:Ron Paul represented change and that is why McCain is there instead.
... McCain's history with immigration policy and his dealings with Kennedy on this front are the frightening aspects of a McCain vote, no doubt about it. However, as much as I dislike McCain it seems I will probably agree with about 50 to 60% of what he will do. Obama? ... Probably closer to 5%.got tonkaed wrote:Allow me to injerject that if you are voting for Mccain i find it rather odd that you would cite gas prices and immigration as areas where hes likely to diverge widely enough to justify a vote one way or the other.Nobunaga wrote:... Hey, Pimp, you an Obama supporter? Tell us why, and be specific. (and no, "He's not a neocon" is not specific.)pimpdave wrote:pimpdave wrote: Aggressive Reporter Picks on the Wrong Mark
Did no one watch that video? Did Derrick's reasoning finally silence all of you neocons? I'm sure you can flip out and find some way to counter it with a bunch of ridiculous, unsubstantiated claims.
... War, immigration, gas prices, huge national debt - hit on those in your answer.
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Won't happen. The worse the economy gets, the more you're going to see it.Nobunaga wrote:I want to hear about pork getting cut off as well.
My big three..... The Debt, Medical Care, and Vets benifits.Nobunaga wrote:My greatest concern is the debt, and the trillions owed US citizens through social security, Medicaid, Medicare and veterans benefits.
I don't know about this figure. While I was in 8th grade I took the mandatory Constitution test. The last page of the test had the most arrogant statement. I'll never forget it.Nobunaga wrote:I read last month that each tax-paying citizen would have to fork over $550,000 to cover this debt.
They both have completely different plans. Obama has a seperate tax plan, whereas McCain wishes to make Bushes tax cuts permanent. Is this what you're talking about?Nobunaga wrote:... McCain has no plan to fix this, I know. Does Obama? He's from the tax & spend crowd, so it's very unlikely.