America didn't land on the moon

[pimpdave]

If America didn't land on the moon, then I don't believe that Columbus ever walked on the West Indies.

[jonesthecurl]

...and I'm not entirely convinced that the Isle of Man really exists.

[Juan_Bottom]

Crap... I'll start a different thread...

[PLAYER57832]

or that aliens built the pyramids

The ancient Egyptians, like Americans today, recognized that it would be cheaper to build things with an alien work force

OK, let's debunk this one right now.

Ever visit any of the old Work Corps projects? Ever go into the backcountry to see any of the trails that are STILL, to this day, built completely by hand?

At 5'2", female, I am hardly a champion weight lifter or prize fighter. Yet, I, ALONE, with the use of simple levers and rollers am fully and entirely capable of moving a boulder about the size of an average washing machine. Multiply that by the hundreds shown in paintings, and you realize it is NOT so unlikely that these were built entirely by hand.

Further, there have even been multiple tests to prove this. I vaguely remember one from that old show (In search of, I think the name was) starring Leonard Nemoy, demonstrating both that the pyramids and Easter Island statues could have been moved by hand. Noe that show was essentially geared toward making things seem a bit more nysterious than thay really are, so when they debunked a myth ... it was a pretty obvious debunk!

Its not magic, its rollers, simple pulleys and levers.


As for the tight fit ... that, too is actually MORE likely when things are done by hand and slowly. The sides are ground and become uniform.

[Juan_Bottom]

Don't worry yo.. this thread is dead again. The actual topic was on aliens visiting earth...... I started a fresh thread to avoid confusion...

[jonesthecurl]

or that aliens built the pyramids

The ancient Egyptians, like Americans today, recognized that it would be cheaper to build things with an alien work force

OK, let's debunk this one right now.

Ever visit any of the old Work Corps projects? Ever go into the backcountry to see any of the trails that are STILL, to this day, built completely by hand?

At 5'2", female, I am hardly a champion weight lifter or prize fighter. Yet, I, ALONE, with the use of simple levers and rollers am fully and entirely capable of moving a boulder about the size of an average washing machine. Multiply that by the hundreds shown in paintings, and you realize it is NOT so unlikely that these were built entirely by hand.

Further, there have even been multiple tests to prove this. I vaguely remember one from that old show (In search of, I think the name was) starring Leonard Nemoy, demonstrating both that the pyramids and Easter Island statues could have been moved by hand. Noe that show was essentially geared toward making things seem a bit more nysterious than thay really are, so when they debunked a myth ... it was a pretty obvious debunk!

Its not magic, its rollers, simple pulleys and levers.


As for the tight fit ... that, too is actually MORE likely when things are done by hand and slowly. The sides are ground and become uniform.

of course. That quote was from ages ago, and was I think me pointing out that if people bought into the "Moon hoax" idea, they probably were also gullible enough for crop circles and the-gods-were-astronauts.

[muy_thaiguy]

or that aliens built the pyramids

The ancient Egyptians, like Americans today, recognized that it would be cheaper to build things with an alien work force

OK, let's debunk this one right now.

Ever visit any of the old Work Corps projects? Ever go into the backcountry to see any of the trails that are STILL, to this day, built completely by hand?

At 5'2", female, I am hardly a champion weight lifter or prize fighter. Yet, I, ALONE, with the use of simple levers and rollers am fully and entirely capable of moving a boulder about the size of an average washing machine. Multiply that by the hundreds shown in paintings, and you realize it is NOT so unlikely that these were built entirely by hand.

Further, there have even been multiple tests to prove this. I vaguely remember one from that old show (In search of, I think the name was) starring Leonard Nemoy, demonstrating both that the pyramids and Easter Island statues could have been moved by hand. Noe that show was essentially geared toward making things seem a bit more nysterious than thay really are, so when they debunked a myth ... it was a pretty obvious debunk!

Its not magic, its rollers, simple pulleys and levers.


As for the tight fit ... that, too is actually MORE likely when things are done by hand and slowly. The sides are ground and become uniform.

Me thinks it was made in jest.

[White Moose]

Man didn't walk on your HEAD!

[protectedbygold]

At least Juan and Muy were able to grasp that I was merely joking around.

[Pedronicus]

The sarcasm detectors of the new guy guys n girls, should be turned on as a requirement to join in discussions in this forum.

[jonesthecurl]

I think everyone realised the response to the quote was in jest, but Player at least suspected that my original comment was in earnest.

And frankly on these forums some people have said such ludicrous stuff in earnest that I'm not sure a sarcasm detector is possible...

[Jenos Ridan]

So. 1969. Pretty much the height of the cold war.
Russia has advanced space technology.

Tell me this Pedronicus: if the moon landings were fake, don't you think the Russians would have shouted as loudly as they could "GUYS, ITS FAKED!".

What a colossal public relations victory that would have been -it might even have destroyed the USA's global credibility, leaving the USSR as the victors of the war.

If the landings were faked, do ya think the Russians would have just kept quiet, YOU BLITHERING IDIOT!

"Oh, but Suggs, the Russians didn't know either, they were fooled by the USA's hi tech Hollywood basement video shoot."

Quite seriously, you are a fucking idiot. Bring on a forum ban or something, cos I am tired of dealing with kid gloves with FUCKING PRICKS LIKE YOU WHO SHOW NO INTELLIGENCE, NO FEEL FOR HUMANITY, NO RESPECT FOR WHAT THOSE BRAVE, BRAVE ASTRONAUTS DID.

f*ck OFF.
f*ck OFF.
f*ck OFF.

All the best!
Suggs.

And this poor tub got torp'd.

[Juan_Bottom]

As a matter of record, the Soviet's "Project Blue Book"(ours had the same name) Concluded that it was possible that America reached the moon by reverse engineering a crashed alien craft. Cool huh? It was thier goal to do the same. neat-oh!

[Jenos Ridan]

As a matter of record, the Soviet's "Project Blue Book"(ours had the same name) Concluded that it was possible that America reached the moon by reverse engineering a crashed alien craft. Cool huh? It was thier goal to do the same. neat-oh!

Yes, but Project Blue Book (the only one, BTW) concluded that UFOs were generally explainable as nothing unusual.

*another tub sunk*

[Juan_Bottom]

As a matter of record, the Soviet's "Project Blue Book"(ours had the same name) Concluded that it was possible that America reached the moon by reverse engineering a crashed alien craft. Cool huh? It was thier goal to do the same. neat-oh!

Yes, but Project Blue Book (the only one, BTW) concluded that UFOs were generally explainable as nothing unusual.

*another tub sunk*

There were two! The Soviets code named their research "Blue Book" too!!!!! And when the Soviet Union collapsed, theirs was released UNEDITED(unlike America's). Now although our book says UFOs are hoaxes....

It WAS the conclusion of the Soviets that UFOs were real, and posed a grave threat to national security. It was SOP to try and shoot them down. They were "successful" only three times. Out of about two hundred. The rest of the time their fighters were lost.

Move this into the NASA thread!

[Backglass]

Again.

If we faked the moon landings (there were six)...it would mean TENS OF THOUSANDS of people were involved. And not just NASA employees but private contractors such as Boeing & Lockheed Martin as well. It would also mean my Uncle was involved (he worked in Mission Control on Apollo 15-16).

Yet...none have come forward. No one has any proof. Millions saw the rockets go up...where did they go? Did they just orbit for a week? Did they secretly land on some movie set on a desert island?

Even if you believe all the BS, it would have to mean that our government is full of evil masterminds that are capable of keeping tens of thousands of lips sealed and info airtight.

And we all know THAT is just not possible.

[CrazyAnglican]

If you're going to fake something you do it once because the chance of being caught goes up exponentially thereafter. Why even bother with sucessive launches? Not to mention, it's not like the U.S. government was ever a bit slower than originally planned at anything is it?

[Juan_Bottom]

We all agree that the moon landings happened!!!!!

We were discussing these former NASA astronauts who walked on the moon. 4 of them have come forward and claimed that aliens are real. That Rosewell really happened. I made a fresh thread, so no one would be confused as to the topic.

In that case Backglass, I think you do have the participants coming forward! Isn't this exciting?

[jonesthecurl]

Sorry to bring this back from the past, but I thought people might like to see this...
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/LRO/n ... sites.html

[PLAYER57832]

If anyone had photographed a landing zone with evidence of the landings, the photos would be world famous.
We would all know about them & you wouldn't have to look for them on the internet.

They are there. But they are old news now.

[Army of GOD]

I love when an old thread is bumped, and someone quotes and responds to people who said something years ago.

[BigBallinStalin]

Sorry to bring this back from the past, but I thought people might like to see this...
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/LRO/n ... sites.html

And if you look real closely, you'll see the Iraqi WMDs too!

[Haggis_McMutton]

I love when an old thread is bumped, and someone quotes and responds to people who said something years ago.

I'm gonna respond to this post 3 years from now.

Also, this is vintage off-topics right here. Holy shit, almost forgot about backglass and suggs.

[InkL0sed]

I love when an old thread is bumped, and someone quotes and responds to people who said something years ago.

I'm gonna respond to this post 3 years from now.

Also, this is vintage off-topics right here. Holy shit, almost forgot about backglass and suggs.

Blasphemy! I think about suggs every day.

[jonesthecurl]

Walkies!