McCain is Unelectable

[DaGip]

Another glorious DaGip poll.

As you can notice, all the people that would have voted that McCain is unelectable as hell, don't give a flying f*ck about political threads and probably don't vote either (friggin' hippies!).



Sure, you might believe that McCain is the best choice, but he doesn't stand a chance. You can think positive, reinforcing thoughts; but quite simply put...McCain is unelectable. No way on God's (or whatever Super Being you worship) green earth will he win this election. The guy just has too much stuff to draw from, plus the younger voters will turn out in droves to vote Obama, because they have been programmed with rap music and black culture and think having a black president would be cool.

On top of all this...the Ron Paul supporters will decide between Aug 31 and Sept 2 on what they are going to do and who they will be casting a vote for: and it won't be for either Obama or McCain (I am assuming). McCain can't win without Ron Paul support! McCain needs to change his stance on the war, because Americans are sick of it.

McCain will lose by a landslide...so if you are Republican, you had better get back to your conservative roots and vote for Ron Paul!

[Nobunaga]

and muythaiguy Obama would be so much more change than just his age, do you know ANYTHING about his platforms and what he's going to change in politics...there is such a big difference then the religious right and Obama...

Honestly, if you believe that anything will change, you are fairly misled. Its pretty clear that Obama is pandering to the leftists of this country. the video clip that you saw is a clip that was put together by a leftist agenda, of leftists and simply hammered away on one topic. The war in Iraq. Give me a break! We are going to be there for a while, and we should be. To pull out of there now would be the biggest "tuck tail and run" bullshit that the US has ever pulled.

McCain will be far more likely to unite the nation with regards to putting bipartisan politics aside and working to reach across the isle to get things done, including energy plans that will actually get implemented. This is to me more likely to put an end to the war in Iraq than anything else.

I heard that those in Venezuela are paying something like 14 cents per gallon for gas. They drill and produce their own. Perhaps its time that we follow suit and make the efforts to tap into out own natural resources. Stop funding the bastards that would behead us as we line up at the pumps, forking our cash over so some fucking Saudi royalty can shit on a golden toilet seat.

As for Iran, I say lets hit them and hit them hard... now. You can play the "look at the monkey, we're not making nukes!!!" game that Ahmadinejad is playing, but I don't buy it. Like it or not, America is hated for its leadership around the globe. You can go and hug up to our enemies if you think it will make them love you more, but I think we should be plotting their demise before they plot ours.

Wanna play some one on one world domination?

We need a new poll for this one.
He is:

A) Joking
B) Trolling
C) Nobunaga's multi

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[snow_lynx]

http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/64ad536a6d
or we could all just vote for this

I like her energy plan. and her ass. I'd vote for her, bitches.

[brianrogers]

What an inane thread. He's completely electable. Sure he's gonna lose, but he's relatively sensible for a republican.
This Thread Is Arse.

[heavycola]

Jesus christ. The future of the free world lies in the hands of retards. Again. And look what happened last time.

[snow_lynx]

Jesus christ. The future of the free world lies in the hands of retards. Again. And look what happened last time.

So you suggest that if Americans simply leave the middle east, that everything will be fine?

[brianrogers]

They will lose frequent flyer miles

[Snorri1234]

I disagree. Based on character alone, he is a far superior candidate. I believe him to be genuine, and honest as well as experienced in the political arena.

Oh you mean like all those times he lied or flipflopped? Yeah sure that sounds genuine and honest and whatever bullshit.

Lets not even mention that he is more to the middle than is Obama,

Yeah, cept that he has voted along party lines for about 98% since he decided to campaign for president.

Seriously, noone with any knowledge on this can claim he's still a "maverick". You could say that republican stances are more in the middle, but that seems a bit contrary to my experiences. (Though the internet is very liberal, so I'm not sure.)

[Joodoo]

I disagree. Based on character alone, he is a far superior candidate. I believe him to be genuine, and honest as well as experienced in the political arena.

Oh you mean like all those times he lied or flipflopped? Yeah sure that sounds genuine and honest and whatever bullshit.

Lets not even mention that he is more to the middle than is Obama,

Yeah, cept that he has voted along party lines for about 98% since he decided to campaign for president.

Seriously, noone with any knowledge on this can claim he's still a "maverick". You could say that republican stances are more in the middle, but that seems a bit contrary to my experiences. (Though the internet is very liberal, so I'm not sure.)

based on what you have said, I can say that you are a liberal
lynx, the only two things that he's better than Obama in is experience and conservatism for Americans...

[heavycola]

Jesus christ. The future of the free world lies in the hands of retards. Again. And look what happened last time.

So you suggest that if Americans simply leave the middle east, that everything will be fine?

So you managed to read my opinions on US foreign policy between those two lines where I called you a retard? Point proven, I guess.

[Snorri1234]

Jesus christ. The future of the free world lies in the hands of retards. Again. And look what happened last time.

So you suggest that if Americans simply leave the middle east, that everything will be fine?

So you managed to read my opinions on US foreign policy between those two lines where I called you a retard? Point proven, I guess.

Sigworthy.

[DRoZ]

I disagree. Based on character alone, he is a far superior candidate. I believe him to be genuine, and honest as well as experienced in the political arena.

Oh you mean like all those times he lied or flipflopped? Yeah sure that sounds genuine and honest and whatever bullshit.

Lets not even mention that he is more to the middle than is Obama,

Yeah, cept that he has voted along party lines for about 98% since he decided to campaign for president.

Seriously, noone with any knowledge on this can claim he's still a "maverick". You could say that republican stances are more in the middle, but that seems a bit contrary to my experiences. (Though the internet is very liberal, so I'm not sure.)

So did you just pull whatever percentage rate you thought may make sense right out of your ass, or was it from someone else?

Seriously, does no one do any research before they let this verbal diarrhea spew...

In the 110th congress McCain has voted with the republican party 88.3% of the time, out of 231 votes, which is about middle of the road in respect to the other republicans. Now, we can never really know how many more times he would have voted with the GOP, because he missed 400 votes in this time, which amounts to the highest percentage of missed votes in this senate at 63.4%. In second place is Sen. Tim Johnson (D-SD) who had a brain hemorrhage in Dec 2006 and has recently returned to the senate. He has missed 49.3% of the votes. In third and forth is Obama and Hillary with 44.8% and 32.0% missed respectively.

[DRoZ]

You are the one who was touting McCain's character, I was just letting you know how wrong you are.

As for Obama... I think he is worthless as well, but my dislike for him will have to be told at a later time.

All I am saying is that from a political and policy stand point, I think that McCain is more realistic and more open about what he intends to do. I think the whole Iraq thing sucks. It was wrong to go in there in the first place. But we are there now, regardless. To yank our troops out of there would be a mistake. The big O is too far to the left for me.

As for character, well, I think that we all have character flaws. Having a failed marriage after you were a POW is kinda circumstantial, don't you think? Well, you were never a pow so I guess that you wouldn't know what it would be like, would you. Anyway, America will have yet another second rate president, no matter how you look at it. I guess we should be thankful that we didn't end up with Hillary in there.

What?!? Explain to me how being a POW would make a man call his first wife, who was disfigured in a horrific car wreck, appalling. Cheat on her with many women half his age, marry a young, rich wife one month after his divorce and spend the rest of his life treating his new wife like shit, even offering her up to some bikers at Sturgis in the Miss Buffalo Chip contest. You are right, I have never been a POW, and I can't imagine how difficult that would be, but if it turns you into a misogynist and a racist, then I don't think you could be a very effective president.

[Snorri1234]

I disagree. Based on character alone, he is a far superior candidate. I believe him to be genuine, and honest as well as experienced in the political arena.

Oh you mean like all those times he lied or flipflopped? Yeah sure that sounds genuine and honest and whatever bullshit.

Lets not even mention that he is more to the middle than is Obama,

Yeah, cept that he has voted along party lines for about 98% since he decided to campaign for president.

Seriously, noone with any knowledge on this can claim he's still a "maverick". You could say that republican stances are more in the middle, but that seems a bit contrary to my experiences. (Though the internet is very liberal, so I'm not sure.)

So did you just pull whatever percentage rate you thought may make sense right out of your ass, or was it from someone else?

Seriously, does no one do any research before they let this verbal diarrhea spew...

In the 110th congress McCain has voted with the republican party 88.3% of the time, out of 231 votes, which is about middle of the road in respect to the other republicans. Now, we can never really know how many more times he would have voted with the GOP, because he missed 400 votes in this time, which amounts to the highest percentage of missed votes in this senate at 63.4%. In second place is Sen. Tim Johnson (D-SD) who had a brain hemorrhage in Dec 2006 and has recently returned to the senate. He has missed 49.3% of the votes. In third and forth is Obama and Hillary with 44.8% and 32.0% missed respectively.

I think I got it from some online-article. I believe it actually was a measure over the last six months or so instead of the whole congress. He has started to vote more and more along party lines since he began his campaign, though that could be a representation of his beliefs just being in line with the party because of the things in congress and not some effort to appeal to the rest of the republicans. It is however a little strange that he has recently flipflopped on certain issues towards conservatism and more along party lines.

Regardless, he is far from being "middle of the road". Though he is a little less conservative than Obama is liberal, calling him middle of the road is rather silly.

[pancakemix]

This is why he votes on party lines.

[DRoZ]

He ran against Bush years ago in the republican primaries, so he would have certainly kept up appearances since then for this campaign, so a small sample of six months would be worthless on his political allegiance. That article was probably more fluff than actual substance. Its not that I don't agree with you though, I find it laughable that people assume he is going to bring congress together, when for the most part all he does on the senate floor is pick fights, he has cursed out fellow republicans in front of other senators, and has never been one to hold back any wild accusations in public. This sort of behavior isn't exactly conducive to friend-making. Or diplomacy for that matter.

[Snorri1234]

He ran against Bush years ago in the republican primaries, so he would have certainly kept up appearances since then for this campaign, so a small sample of six months would be worthless on his political allegiance.

I don't think it actually says anything about what he will do when elected, but it's sort of an argument against his straightalk, maverick image that is toted around by his followers. It shows that he's not above populism.

I find it laughable that people assume he is going to bring congress together, when for the most part all he does on the senate floor is pick fights, he has cursed out fellow republicans in front of other senators, and has never been one to hold back any wild accusations in public. This sort of behavior isn't exactly conducive to friend-making. Or diplomacy for that matter.

Yeah I never got it. Sure, with Obama I can understand that line of thinking as he is good at that whole diplomacy thing. McCain might be "more in the centre" but that's really less important than knowing how to deal with people themselves. Congress isn't a bunch of walking and talking issues but real people, and most people tend to not like it when cursed at even if they might agree with him a whole lot.

Haven't people learned from that whole "YOU ARE TERRIST AND I WILL WAR THE SHIT OUT OF YOU!" debacle called the current administration?

[snow_lynx]

Jesus christ. The future of the free world lies in the hands of retards. Again. And look what happened last time.

So you suggest that if Americans simply leave the middle east, that everything will be fine?

So you managed to read my opinions on US foreign policy between those two lines where I called you a retard? Point proven, I guess.

No, on the contrary. I asked a question because your point was so vague that I thought I might give you the opportunity to clarify it by asking a question. The statement that I thought you were making was in reference to the war in Iraq, so I asked in a round about way if that was that the f*ck you were talking about. Of course, you deflected by insulting me, I can only assume that you also have no idea what you were trying to say. Please, correct me if I am wrong. What exactly happened at what time when you said "...And look what happened last time." If you were referring to the election of a dumb f*ck, then I tend to agree with you. As it is now, there is a pile of shit in the middle east. But putting someone in office that has no idea what war is about is not the solution to the mess that Bush created. At a time when the enemies of my country seek to kill as many of us as they possibly can, I think a patsy in office is not a good idea. Of course, that is my opinion. I hope is isn't as vaguely explained as yours.

[Fircoal]

:lol: silly liberals

actually, it appears that there isn't a "good" candidate (IMO), so I will be selecting the lesser of two evils (McCain).

Besides, who wants Jimmy Carter Jr., someone who's went to 57 states (not a type...it was in a speech), someone who is for abortion and homosexuality....need I continue, because I could

I would like to have someone in favor for abortion and homosexuality

[Snorri1234]

The statement that I thought you were making was in reference to the war in Iraq, so I asked in a round about way if that was that the f*ck you were talking about.

Which probably leads one to conclude you are indeed a retard.

Seriously, why would you even get the idea that he was talking about Iraq? The world doesn't centre around the US and their war in Iraq!
He was just saying that you are all retards, hence why he called you that.

Of course, you deflected by insulting me,

Actually, he insulted you from the start.

But putting someone in office that has no idea what war is about is not the solution to the mess that Bush created.

?

Seriously, what are you blabbering about saying Obama has no idea what war is about? Does knowing what war is about only come from being in the military? Since when?

[Snorri1234]

:lol: silly liberals

actually, it appears that there isn't a "good" candidate (IMO), so I will be selecting the lesser of two evils (McCain).

Besides, who wants Jimmy Carter Jr., someone who's went to 57 states (not a type...it was in a speech), someone who is for abortion and homosexuality....need I continue, because I could

I would like to have someone in favor for abortion and homosexuality

Go run for president. Or vote for Nader. Nader is seriously the only actual president I can get behind for real, it's just that he won't get elected.

[snow_lynx]

The statement that I thought you were making was in reference to the war in Iraq, so I asked in a round about way if that was that the f*ck you were talking about.

Which probably leads one to conclude you are indeed a retard.

Seriously, why would you even get the idea that he was talking about Iraq? The world doesn't centre around the US and their war in Iraq!
He was just saying that you are all retards, hence why he called you that.

Of course, you deflected by insulting me,

Actually, he insulted you from the start.

But putting someone in office that has no idea what war is about is not the solution to the mess that Bush created.

?

Seriously, what are you blabbering about saying Obama has no idea what war is about? Does knowing what war is about only come from being in the military? Since when?

firstly, cola's point was wide open and his insult is baseless. I asked if he was talking about the mess in Iraq. Maybe you could actually let him answer the question rather than getting n the way? Honestly, I would like to understand where he is coming from. I can see plainly that you are merely talking out of your ass.

Secondly, One who has experience in the military absolutely has much more knowledge about the affairs of the military than one who does not. If you think that he can get his understanding of things that should work in theory but do not work in practical reality from books or second hand information, then I could sell you a nice plot of swamp land in Florida, or perhaps a bridge in Montana. Either way, if I am a retard then you are an idiot.

[freddyfarce]

1815.

[snow_lynx]

1815.

What about it?

[Snorri1234]

firstly, cola's point was wide open and his insult is baseless.

He was "insulting" you by calling the voters in this thread retards.

I asked if he was talking about the mess in Iraq.

Why would he?

Maybe you could actually let him answer the question rather than getting n the way? Honestly, I would like to understand where he is coming from. I can see plainly that you are merely talking out of your ass.

My ass is located far enough from my fingertips to assure you that I'm not talking out of my ass. I mean, you haven't answered me but I'm not teling other people who respond to back away and let you answer. I can see quite clearly that you don't want to deal with difficult questions.

Secondly, One who has experience in the military absolutely has much more knowledge about the affairs of the military than one who does not.

HE WAS JUST A FUCKING SOLDIER! It's not like he's some fucking general. Yeah, he lead a unit, not a fucking army though.

yeah, sure enough he knows how to shoot at things or survive as a soldier, but he's no expert on the shit a fucking president deals with. The president doesn't fight wars, he leads them.

At least Obama has the balls to admit he doesn't know anything about it and will let generals inform him.

If you think that he can get his understanding of things that should work in theory but do not work in practical reality from books or second hand information, then I could sell you a nice plot of swamp land in Florida, or perhaps a bridge in Montana. Either way, if I am a retard then you are an idiot.

Seriously, since when did letting experts determine what to do become a bad thing?


Also, as an aside, books (I know they're scary) really do tell you what works and what does not. You know what expert military officers or people who just know a lot about fighting wars do? They fucking write fucking books!