McCain is Unelectable

[snow_lynx]

firstly, cola's point was wide open and his insult is baseless.

He was "insulting" you by calling the voters in this thread retards.

I asked if he was talking about the mess in Iraq.

Why would he?

Maybe you could actually let him answer the question rather than getting n the way? Honestly, I would like to understand where he is coming from. I can see plainly that you are merely talking out of your ass.

My ass is located far enough from my fingertips to assure you that I'm not talking out of my ass. I mean, you haven't answered me but I'm not teling other people who respond to back away and let you answer. I can see quite clearly that you don't want to deal with difficult questions.

Secondly, One who has experience in the military absolutely has much more knowledge about the affairs of the military than one who does not.

HE WAS JUST A FUCKING SOLDIER! It's not like he's some fucking general. Yeah, he lead a unit, not a fucking army though.

yeah, sure enough he knows how to shoot at things or survive as a soldier, but he's no expert on the shit a fucking president deals with. The president doesn't fight wars, he leads them.

At least Obama has the balls to admit he doesn't know anything about it and will let generals inform him.

If you think that he can get his understanding of things that should work in theory but do not work in practical reality from books or second hand information, then I could sell you a nice plot of swamp land in Florida, or perhaps a bridge in Montana. Either way, if I am a retard then you are an idiot.

Seriously, since when did letting experts determine what to do become a bad thing?


Also, as an aside, books (I know they're scary) really do tell you what works and what does not. You know what expert military officers or people who just know a lot about fighting wars do? They fucking write fucking books!

My my, aren't you upset over this little conversation. Lets get a few facts straight first, since you seem interested in qualifying McCain as a grunt. John McCain graduated from the U.S. Naval Academy as a naval pilot. This actually makes him a commissioned officer. When he retired after something along the order of 23 years of service, he was a captain. No, not a four star general, you are correct, but I wouldn't suggest that he was a grunt, were I you.

so his experience as an officer for more than 20 years really should give him the upper hand over Obama if you are talking about his ability to wield the military. During the time that McCain was serving the US, Obama was learning how to kiss peoples ass. Haha... thats funny.

Now, as to these questions that I seem to be avoiding, if you are asking how did I conclude that heavy was talking about the Iraq war when he said what he said, well... since I was asking a question for clarity as to his point, I can tell you that I had not made a conclusion at all. I was asking for more information. To me, this is not the behavior of a retarded person. Though, a retard may be incapable of drawing conclusions from a dialog that has conclusive elements. Kind of like you. Are you retarded? Is that why you don't understand and jump to irrational conclusions? I'm just asking.

[Snorri1234]

My my, aren't you upset over this little conversation.

That's upset?

You obviously don't know me.

Lets get a few facts straight first, since you seem interested in qualifying McCain as a grunt. John McCain graduated from the U.S. Naval Academy as a naval pilot. This actually makes him a commissioned officer. When he retired after something along the order of 23 years of service, he was a captain. No, not a four star general, you are correct, but I wouldn't suggest that he was a grunt, were I you.

Yeah yeah whatever. He's still not actually qualified to lead a fucking army (the largest one on the planet probably). He obviously knows how the military works internally and shit, but leading a coordinated military operation is something different. You know what we learned from the last president thinking he knew better than his generals? Yeah......

so his experience as an officer for more than 20 years really should give him the upper hand over Obama if you are talking about his ability to wield the military. During the time that McCain was serving the US, Obama was learning how to kiss peoples ass. Haha... thats funny.

Ha ha. That is indeed very funny. So when McCain was just fighting shit and killing people Obama was actually talking to people and coming to a NON-VIOLENT solution.


See how easy it is to act like a douchebag and paint someone else in a bad picture?

Now, as to these questions that I seem to be avoiding, if you are asking how did I conclude that heavy was talking about the Iraq war when he said what he said, well... since I was asking a question for clarity as to his point, I can tell you that I had not made a conclusion at all.

Yeah, otherwise than those not being the questions I suppose you're just oblivious to sarcasm or in fact humour. I mean, people with brains would've gotten hc but I'm not actually putting you in that catagory so it's all good.

I was asking for more information. To me, this is not the behavior of a retarded person.

Asking for more info is not retarded. Asking for someone to fucking explain their insult obviously directed at you is though.

Though, a retard may be incapable of drawing conclusions from a dialog that has conclusive elements. Kind of like you. Are you retarded? Is that why you don't understand and jump to irrational conclusions? I'm just asking.

Oh yeah you're just asking....

f*ck man, you're not even trying to hide your insults in a wall of text!
For real, are you saying I'm "incapable of drawing conclusions from a dialog that has conclusive elements" when you fucking asked a person calling you all retards to explain himself? Where is the "dialog" in that? Seriously, you just took some troll-bait and you don't even realise you did. It wasn't even very good troll-bait, but yours and his response were absolutely brilliant.

Man, it's like debating with a demented midget, hilarious but futile.

[xerro]

i read the first paige and a half, but im lazy so i just decided to post....lol
im not big on McCain, or Obama. they both suck. alot.
but, someone commented on jonhy's character. they said how it was distastefull and whatnot and somethin about crude jokes..... that may be, but i'd rather have an old fart who's crude and whatnot, than a young man of questionable origins, who nobody knows his character at all except that he is for murder, usually votes in the senate to not vote( doesnt vote for or against... ), and changes his mind about major topics of his platform every week or so.
i AM NOT a mccain fan, but id definatley have him in the oval office, than his opponent......

and , someone said about having a long war in iraq and hitting them hard and stuff like that... i dont understand why we dont nuke russia, iraq, iran, and all of them and their friends at the same time and get over with it...

jk

only the first part was serious....

gOd blEss AmErIcA

[Snorri1234]

than a young man of questionable origins,

He's a MUSLIM, rite? AMIRITE OR WHAT?!? Damn dirty muslims trying to infiltrate us!!!

who nobody knows his character at all except that he is for murder,

Wait...what?

What?

usually votes in the senate to not vote( doesnt vote for or against... ),

I suppose that's worse than being the guy who fucking voted less than that dude who had a brain hemmorhage!

and changes his mind about major topics of his platform every week or so.

Wait, are you talking about McCain or something?

and , someone said about having a long war in iraq and hitting them hard and stuff like that... i dont understand why we dont nuke russia, iraq, iran, and all of them and their friends at the same time and get over with it...

Yeah I don't get it either. Obviously nuking every nation which you don't agree with will have no negative consequences ever.

only the first part was serious....

Which part? That one where you only read the first "paige" or where you said that nuking russia, iraq and iran is a solid idea?

[autoload]

Too many choices...

[turtlewax]

He's still not actually qualified to lead a fucking army (the largest one on the planet probably).

You're not very careful with what you say, are you?

THE WORLD'S TEN LARGEST ARMIES

1. China - 1,700,000
2. India - 1,200,000
3. North Korea - 900,000
4. South Korea - 560,000
5. Pakistan - 520,000
6. United States - 475,000
7. Iraq - 360,000 - Pre-2003, of course.
8. Myanmar - 325,000
9. Russia - 320,000
10. Iran - 320,000

[got tonkaed]

its kind of trollish to bring out those stats, when its fairly clear what he is talking about. Although obviously the worlds largest countries are going to have larger armies and North and South Korea are likely to have very large ones as well...most people tend to give the US the nod as the preeminent military superpower.

Im sure theres a list you could find that will say so.

[Neoteny]

6. United States - 475,000
7. Iraq - 360,000 - Pre-2003, of course.

I found one. How long did this war last? The actual fighting, of course. And we even kept quite a few at home.

Although nobody can doubt that those numbers are intimidating.

[jay_a2j]

Meh....


I can not vote for McCain.

He is a war monger.

He supports this illegal war we call Iraq.

He is Bush's 3rd term.


I can not vote for Obama.

He will tax us to death.




Both would be puppets of the NWO. Both are members of the CFR. We have no choice. They have seen to it by eliminating Ron Paul and any other REAL candidate for change. If there even is an election, votes won't matter.... he has already been chosen.


This will be the first election that I did not vote since turning 18. If I do vote it will be a third party, because these two yahoo's won't be getting my vote.

[muy_thaiguy]

6. United States - 475,000
7. Iraq - 360,000 - Pre-2003, of course.

I found one. How long did this war last? The actual fighting, of course. And we even kept quite a few at home.

Although nobody can doubt that those numbers are intimidating.

Were the draft to ever take effect again, the US would have around 75 million troops.

[turtlewax]

its kind of trollish to bring out those stats, when its fairly clear what he is talking about. Although obviously the worlds largest countries are going to have larger armies and North and South Korea are likely to have very large ones as well...most people tend to give the US the nod as the preeminent military superpower.

Im sure theres a list you could find that will say so.

The US is not invincible. War with Chins is a scary prospect. Iran and North Korea would be awful as well. China has technological advancements every day as they race to catch up with the US. Don't get me wrong, our military if formidable, but that statement that snorri made was from the hip, like the rest of them. Its almost as if someone else is posting in his stead. He usually isn't so stupid.

[got tonkaed]

War with any of them probably wouldnt be a brillant strategic move, though to be fair anyone who ever advocates going to war with china probably isnt fit to serve in most contexts.

[kletka]

These numbers are taken from where?
Compare http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_size_of_armed_forces

He's still not actually qualified to lead a fucking army (the largest one on the planet probably).

You're not very careful with what you say, are you?

THE WORLD'S TEN LARGEST ARMIES

1. China - 1,700,000
2. India - 1,200,000
3. North Korea - 900,000
4. South Korea - 560,000
5. Pakistan - 520,000
6. United States - 475,000
7. Iraq - 360,000 - Pre-2003, of course.
8. Myanmar - 325,000
9. Russia - 320,000
10. Iran - 320,000

[kletka]

War with any of them probably wouldnt be a brillant strategic move, though to be fair anyone who ever advocates going to war with china probably isnt fit to serve in most contexts.

I am sorry but such war is sad but necessary for the preservation of the humankind. The world is clearly overpopulated. A good jolly world war is necessary to half the world's population and reduce industrial output by 70%.

Go GREEN!! VOTE, NADER!!

[got tonkaed]

War with any of them probably wouldnt be a brillant strategic move, though to be fair anyone who ever advocates going to war with china probably isnt fit to serve in most contexts.

I am sorry but such war is sad but necessary for the preservation of the humankind. The world is clearly overpopulated. A good jolly world war is necessary to half the world's population and reduce industrial output by 70%.

Go GREEN!! VOTE, NADER!!

no matter where your views on the necessity of war and population control lie, id probably argue against of the moves in the current or near future as a positive strategic step, especially concerning the united states.

[Neoteny]

These numbers are taken from where?
Compare http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_size_of_armed_forces

He's still not actually qualified to lead a fucking army (the largest one on the planet probably).

You're not very careful with what you say, are you?

THE WORLD'S TEN LARGEST ARMIES

1. China - 1,700,000
2. India - 1,200,000
3. North Korea - 900,000
4. South Korea - 560,000
5. Pakistan - 520,000
6. United States - 475,000
7. Iraq - 360,000 - Pre-2003, of course.
8. Myanmar - 325,000
9. Russia - 320,000
10. Iran - 320,000

pwn

[e_i_pi]

Where's the poll option that he has horribly saggy jowls? This thread is a sham

[Snorri1234]

These numbers are taken from where?
Compare http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_size_of_armed_forces

He's still not actually qualified to lead a fucking army (the largest one on the planet probably).

You're not very careful with what you say, are you?

THE WORLD'S TEN LARGEST ARMIES

1. China - 1,700,000
2. India - 1,200,000
3. North Korea - 900,000
4. South Korea - 560,000
5. Pakistan - 520,000
6. United States - 475,000
7. Iraq - 360,000 - Pre-2003, of course.
8. Myanmar - 325,000
9. Russia - 320,000
10. Iran - 320,000

Yay. Didn't have to say anything.