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[sheepofdumb]

Confirm.

I saw pancake was back so I came back.

[LSU Tiger Josh]

The reason I know Yoshi wasn't trying to kill is my role is in fact commuter and mason with suika and on certain days depending on when I choose to commute I am immune to being killed and I had chosen to commute the night I was egged.

[pancakemix]

Confirm.

I saw pancake was back so I came back.

That's... kinda creepy...

The reason I know Yoshi wasn't trying to kill is my role is in fact commuter and mason with suika and on certain days depending on when I choose to commute I am immune to being killed and I had chosen to commute the night I was egged.

Masons and a Recruiting Mason? I don't buy it. I'll need a role name or else I'll vote you with Suika following.

[ga7]

Agreed, we know Ace ended up not recruiting anyone so another couple of masons don't sound good, especially with a potentially high number of culties around. Suika, can you confirm this? Can both of you give your role name?
In any case depending with how commuter fits the character I think we should leave LSU alone and move on to Firee. Who did Sheep replace btw?

[LSU Tiger Josh]

I'm Nana.

[pancakemix]

Ice Climber-->Commuter? I dunno. I don't think it works. There are characters better suited for something like that. But I'd like to hear from Suika before we get too hasty.

[william18]

Ice Climber-->Commuter? I dunno. I don't think it works. There are characters better suited for something like that. But I'd like to hear from Suika before we get too hasty.

Yeah but the mason part fits.

[ga7]

The Ice Climbers appear as playable fighters in Super Smash Bros. Melee and Super Smash Bros. Brawl. Although they are collectively the same fighter, players only control Popo while Nana mimics his every move. However, if Popo and Nana are separated, Nana will do everything she can to come back to Popo, hitting characters in front of her or throwing them.

In Brawl, the Ice Climbers return with a Final Smash called "Iceberg." When used, Popo and Nana high five each other causing a huge iceberg to rise from center stage. Taking up most of the level, the iceberg freezes opponents touching it.

Even the commuter part kinda makes sense to me, depends of Suika's part in that though.
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[XGSuperstar]

No votes yet.

Another message appeared. So...yah:

Yeah this is really danodukebb, don't know how I can really prove it to you but XG didn't give me an exact role, he just said "oops forgot to give you your results, PCM is scum" and thats that

[ga7]

Hrrm ok. Maybe the death nerfed Dano's powers. Gonna check back on something...

Who did Sheep replace btw?

[Mageplunka69]

Some random notes as I read on.

- Dito claimed Fox, nexus, which I assume is most likely town. Day 3 he was attacked by Fireedud and MIB for claiming Fox, which was quite unreasonable and obvious way to try and quick lynch.

- Ace tried to recruit Flores night 2, which would mean she got recruited either the same night or night 1, since we know Ace wasn't blocked as only Dano visited him.

I tried to convert flores, but failed, and I am sure I failed because mod said something about my messages not reaching her

Another theory is that the Cult can only recruit people with cloudy thoughts and the mason recruiter can only recruit people with thoughts of justice. It's starting to make more sense to me.

-BUT! This quote from day 2:

one of these:

animorpherv1
Danodukebb
ace1217

is yoshi.

in other news, i may have something to do with LoVo's burst sewer. that is all.

Proves that MIB's powers are not accurate, as we know for a fact Flores visited Lovo and was Yoshi that night.

-Another thing on that MIB quote and from the day scenes is that he's responsible for the sewer thing. Day 4 caused a bit of confusion, as it showed MIB's place having the sewer burst. But it's also the night he targeted Dito the nexus. That leads me to think MIB actually watched himself.

-LSU got egged day 4. We know that Flores was recruited before that. I find it likely that she would use that silly power to try and clear one of her cult buddies, knowing that because of Ace's failed recruitment she would likely go to the chopping block the next day.

I know for a fact Yoshi isn't attempting to kill anyone at night. Whether that means he is pro town or not is unknown other then it is annoying to be egged.

Interesting wording there. I'm curious to know more about this.

-Another theory about why MIB didn't see Flores visiting Lovo: MIB was cult night 1 and thought Flores was Yoshi, therefore leaving her name out to recruit her. ahAH! Not farfetched. At all. *flash red light*

-Let's take a look at the player list now.
1) animorpherv1 > meh
2) sam_levi_11 -> Ditocoaf > Fox, nexus (quitted)
3) william18 > claimed to have some one-shot power, credible but could have called the cult's attention
6) LSU Tiger Josh > likely cult
7) cmckinney -> PancakeMix > hammered Flores, could go either way though
11) borox0 -> Ga7 > pro-town miller back from the death!!1!
12) dittoeevee8888 > no word or input since ages (prod please)
13) fireedud > a bit scummy (went away but might be back soon)
14) mr. incrediball > most likely cult target, brings dead rats to peoples' houses (no sign of life since ages, might need replacement, we didn't get sewer explosion so I assume he missed his action)
16) rbelgrod > absolutely no input all game, nothing.I have been reading and re-sponding
18) Suika > little to no input (went away but might be back soon)

XG, since many people are away or need replacing please be lenient with the deadlines. Also, Nag might be available to replace too now.

Btw I encourage people in putting their own list up with thoughts on the remaining alive players, not only it's nice to have more input but I think scum in general find it a PITA to do. Bwahahah

All in all my prime suspects for Cult leader are LSU and possibly Fireedud, the most likely recruits MIB and maybe William. At this point we gotta aim for the cult leader, but it also depends on what Dano found to help us there; if we're not certain we might be better off lynching a likely recruit and wait for more investigations. Nonetheless, I believe pressure on LSU is in order. If I find the cult leader on my first shot, it'll be like a replay of Athlaklak (though I screwed up in finding the second one)

Vote LSU

[XGSuperstar]

He replaced Ditocoaf. I need to change my topic title, but Shadowstar is playing Brawl and he is going to complain about lag. But Brawl sucks anyways.

^^^ That one statement may reveal the entire game's theme. But it won't really help anyone.

[pancakemix]

stuff

What doest thou?

[LSU Tiger Josh]

Ice Climber-->Commuter? I dunno. I don't think it works. There are characters better suited for something like that. But I'd like to hear from Suika before we get too hasty.

Play the game not the mod

[ga7]

Flores (7) - Ga7, William18, ace1217, animorpherv1, ditocoaf, Suika, PCM

12 alive + LSU, 7 to lynch

Alive people that didn't vote or say anything about Flores:

14) mr. incrediball > actually discussed Flores' role since he didn't see her visiting Lovo, didn't ever hint at trusting or voting her though. Can't be cult leader either way, gave his watcher result at day 2 right away so couldn't be from another cult member. His early claim made him the obvious recruitment choice.

16) rbelgrod > big unknown as he's a total noob. I cannot believe he would really manage to recruit the right people without getting himself killed after 4 nights though. Might be still cult, see below.

12) dittoeevee8888 > another big unknown. Did almost nothing all game, night talked after Flores' lynch but nothing during the day.

13) fireedud > here's a recollection of all of Fireedud's posts with actual content:

Vote lovo it's getting close to the deadline (I think, I'm bad with converting timezones), and it's the only way to find out who is telling the truth.

Since LoVo is innocent that means that Fox (the messager, not dito, was right). Since he is pro-town I don't see why he would have to false claim, unless Dito is lying. I don't understand why exactly he would do that. If he is scum, the only logical explanation for that is if he claims the way he did, he could slip under the radar, for a while.... I'll reread first before I do anything else.

Vote Dito Looking back, he really seemed to be pushing the LoVo lynch.

That's all. I believe Fireedud might have tried to recruit Dito and got to recruit someone else because of the nexus power (which might have been Rbelgrod) thus realized the need to lynch Dito. It's obvious the case he tried to put is total BS since after what he called "rereading time" he makes that inaccurate statement and somewhat ironical as Firee was the one that hammered Lovo. When the tides turned onto Dano he didn't post again.

I think Firee is the most likely candidate for cult leader, although Ditto88 is a close second but there's less incriminating stuff about her since she submarined even more. Rbelgrod is too unlikely for cult leader but as either he could have been a random recruit or a potential starting member and behaves like an extra I think he will need to go at some point for safety and sanity reasons

I realize that this case is purely based on Flores' lynch but let's remind the context in which the lynch happened. Flores' claim was credible, anyone could have therefore chosen not to pursue the lynch without backdraws. The day had stretched out for a long time, at which point a deadline was kinda expected with an assorted no lynch, when PCM hammered. I'm sure everyone in the list had the opportunity to talk about the lynch, those that didn't chose not to. Therefore I don't think the cult leader would have wanted a sacrificial lamb under these conditions when he could have just waited enough to let the cult continue its growth; same goes for the other potential cult members even though it is less clear cut as there's been a night since where someone could have recruited.

Lastly, since with the LSU business we might well have outed 2 more townies, I'd like to emphasise on the fact we need to find the cult leader today, yes or yes. I don't think it should be that difficult a task though, considering most of the likely suspects probably would have a hard time coming up with a fake claim

Now the main problem is Fireedud won't be back before sunday apparently, so I suppose some pressure on Ditto might be good meanwhile. I'll still Vote Fireedud for now and FOS Ditto

[animorpherv1]

That makes sense, strangley enough, and what's with posts that big?

[ga7]

That makes sense, strangley enough, and what's with posts that big?

Really sorry I can't hunt cult down with easy to read one-liners.

[Mageplunka69]

That makes sense, strangley enough, and what's with posts that big?

Really sorry I can't hunt cult down with easy to read one-liners.

I think you are way off base

[FloresDelMal]

That makes sense, strangley enough, and what's with posts that big?

and from beyond the grave a voice says: "read is good for you kiddo, what you dont use, you lose"

*edited cos typo

[animorpherv1]

That makes sense, strangley enough, and what's with posts that big?

and from beyond the grave a voice says: "read is good for you kiddo, what you dont use, you lose"

*edited cos typo

I did read both those posts

[ga7]

I think you are way off base

Care to provide any reason why, cultie?

Talk, people.

[Mageplunka69]

I think you are way off base

Care to provide any reason why, cultie?

Talk, people.

Because you are , im just trying to learn this game and learn from your intelligence

[sheepofdumb]

I think you are way off base

Care to provide any reason why, cultie?

Talk, people.

Because you are , im just trying to learn this game and learn from your intelligence

Here's a quick tip, never try to learn from out intelligence. Ga7 is just trying to bamboozle you with big words and long posts. Don't be fooled. Your better off lynching him.

[Mageplunka69]

ok ,ty. i see he has "way" too much time on his hands

[pancakemix]

I think you are way off base

Care to provide any reason why, cultie?

Talk, people.

Because you are , im just trying to learn this game and learn from your intelligence

Here's a quick tip, never try to learn from out intelligence. Ga7 is just trying to bamboozle you with big words and long posts. Don't be fooled. Your better off lynching him.

Don't try to bamboozle him with your words that often get you lynched on day 1.