It doesn't pay to enforce the rules in the UK.

[Snorri1234]

Smoking also increases the risk of having a heart attack, so there you go.

So does the Atkins diet. So there you go.

Snorri's grandpa probably didn't follow that one, though.

Well he was rather skinny.... But I don't actually believe it was a heartattack so much as his heart just giving up. And dying at 90 isn't really that suprising, so why attribute it to smoking instead of all sorts of other causes?

Regardless, that means cancer is not automatically gotten from smoking. It may increase the risks very much but it's not a guarantee. I mean, shit, people get lungcancer at a pretty young age so anyone living over 75 while smoking is already doing very well.



Also Jay, that doctor doesn't sound like much of a doctor. (Actually, he sounds like a complete idiot.) Too much excersise is bad for you, yes. (Plenty of joggers die during their daily jog, which is pretty hilarious.) But zero excersise isn't good either. And by excersise I mean just being able to walk and run a little.

Basically, too much of anything is bad for you. Being too fat is bad, but being too skinny is too. Living on a steady diet of fried food and lots of booze is bad for you. Alcohol isn't good for you in large quantities as it can cause cancer, and fat in large quantitties can clog up your arterries.

Also, meat is the most inefficient way to deliver vegetables to your body. You are eating muscle, and not everything you get from vegetables you get is put into your muscles.

[MeDeFe]

So do I understand the two of you correctly? Because there's no guarantee that a person will get cancer or a heart attack or some other nasty thing from breathing in that foul-smelling smoke it's quite ok for people to smoke in designated non-smoking areas like train stations?

[Snorri1234]

So do I understand the two of you correctly? Because there's no guarantee that a person will get cancer or a heart attack or some other nasty thing from breathing in that foul-smelling smoke it's quite ok for people to smoke in designated non-smoking areas like train stations?

What? No. There are designated smoking areas at train stations anyway and I always go there not to bother people. (And avoid the 60€ fine.)
What I'm saying is that I don't think those areas should be non-smoking. I'll follow the rules, I just think it's gotten a bit out of hand with that anti-smoking shit.


Also, standing 20 feet away from a smoker at the station outside will not give you anything. Sure it smells and that's a vaild complaint, but there is no health-effect from it.

[Nikolai]

So do I understand the two of you correctly? Because there's no guarantee that a person will get cancer or a heart attack or some other nasty thing from breathing in that foul-smelling smoke it's quite ok for people to smoke in designated non-smoking areas like train stations?

What? No. There are designated smoking areas at train stations anyway and I always go there not to bother people. (And avoid the 60€ fine.)
What I'm saying is that I don't think those areas should be non-smoking. I'll follow the rules, I just think it's gotten a bit out of hand with that anti-smoking shit.


Also, standing 20 feet away from a smoker at the station outside will not give you anything. Sure it smells and that's a vaild complaint, but there is no health-effect from it.

I was going to give this a serious answer... then I looked at your avatar. NVM.

[Snorri1234]

So do I understand the two of you correctly? Because there's no guarantee that a person will get cancer or a heart attack or some other nasty thing from breathing in that foul-smelling smoke it's quite ok for people to smoke in designated non-smoking areas like train stations?

What? No. There are designated smoking areas at train stations anyway and I always go there not to bother people. (And avoid the 60€ fine.)
What I'm saying is that I don't think those areas should be non-smoking. I'll follow the rules, I just think it's gotten a bit out of hand with that anti-smoking shit.


Also, standing 20 feet away from a smoker at the station outside will not give you anything. Sure it smells and that's a vaild complaint, but there is no health-effect from it.

I was going to give this a serious answer... then I looked at your avatar. NVM.

No please. Show me how the occasional whiff of smoke causes motherfucking cancer.

[pimpdave]

No please. Show me how the occasional whiff of smoke causes motherfucking cancer.

My grandpa ate mad cow brains and died of lung cancer.

You are so insensitive!

[jay_a2j]

Also Jay, that doctor doesn't sound like much of a doctor.

Um, it was a joke. Someone sent me it via email. (You must have skipped the last 10 or so lines)

[Nikolai]

So do I understand the two of you correctly? Because there's no guarantee that a person will get cancer or a heart attack or some other nasty thing from breathing in that foul-smelling smoke it's quite ok for people to smoke in designated non-smoking areas like train stations?

What? No. There are designated smoking areas at train stations anyway and I always go there not to bother people. (And avoid the 60€ fine.)
What I'm saying is that I don't think those areas should be non-smoking. I'll follow the rules, I just think it's gotten a bit out of hand with that anti-smoking shit.


Also, standing 20 feet away from a smoker at the station outside will not give you anything. Sure it smells and that's a vaild complaint, but there is no health-effect from it.

I was going to give this a serious answer... then I looked at your avatar. NVM.

No please. Show me how the occasional whiff of smoke causes motherfucking cancer.

Alrighty then. I'll summarize the highlights. Second-hand smoke lingers for hours. It is a Group A carcinogen, which is classified by the EPA as a known cause of cancer in humans. Between lung cancer and heart disease, it kills between 30,000 and 60,000 adult non-smokers per year in the US. And the current Surgeon-General's report indicates that there is no risk-free level of exposure to second-hand smoke. So yes, in point of fact... the occasional whiff of smoke can cause motherfucking cancer.

If you have any doubts, here are the medical facts provided by the Centers for Disease Control -
http://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/data_statist ... dSmoke.htm
and here are the facts provided by the American Lung Association -
http://www.lungusa.org/site/c.dvLUK9O0E ... _Sheet.htm
and the American Cancer Society -
http://www.cancer.org/docroot/PED/conte ... or_Air.asp
and from the Medline Plus service from the National Institute of Health and the U.S. National Library of Medicine -
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/secondhandsmoke.html
and the National Cancer Institute -
http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/fact ... obacco/ETS

Yeah, those are the first five links I get when I Google "second-hand smoke". Next time, a little research so you don't look a right proper moron?

jay: that was pretty damn funny.

[zzzzrri]

No please. Show me how the occasional whiff of smoke causes motherfucking cancer.

My grandpa ate mad cow brains and died of lung cancer.

You are so insensitive!

My grandpa used to smoke in train stations, and died at aged 29 of a vicious malignant strain of lung cancer.

Still, he shouldn't really have been taking drags out of the train engine's exhaust, I always said.