Global warming.

[Juan_Bottom]

What are the negatives of this theory?

A dumber-more TV controlled population.
Those in power, cement it, for more generations to come.

I'm all for gong green, but not for falling for retarded tricks.

[Snorri1234]

There is a ton of money to be made by going green.. just not by the oil companies, per say....

Which is the industry that owns the US government.

Which is suspicious to me.

If big oil calls the shots... then how does "going green" get so much play? And how are big-name politicians able to go there?

But Al Gore only started talking about it for reals when he wasn't running anymore. Even though he claims he knew about it way before that.

It seems talking about it in the US is a death-move. In Europe it isn't much of an issue anymore, but talking about it in the US when running for a public job is not very good.

The data itself suggests to me (I'm no climatologist) that global climate change is solor triggered. And that man has affected this change, but not too impossably drastically.

Well, the sooner we start to go the opposite way the better. I mean, alternative fuels are an important thing regardless of climate change since we're running out of fuel anyway. I believe it's just another good reason to start researching other ways for power. (Nuclear power is the most probable alternative to take over at the moment, and it's not bad for the climate change too.)

[Snorri1234]

What are the negatives of this theory?

A dumber-more TV controlled population.

Even dumber?


You do realise the powers already control tv and have no problem telling you what to do, right? In fact, the doubt by most americans about global climate change (among other things) is directly the consequence of tv telling you what to think or at least nudging you in that direction. Thirty second adds by the candidates shown in Superbowl halftime is basically the worst you can get.

[Juan_Bottom]

It seems talking about it in the US is a death-move. In Europe it isn't much of an issue anymore, but talking about it in the US when running for a public job is not very good.

Oh no, in fact, part of the presidential race is focused on who will be better for the worlds climite.

You do realise the powers already control tv and have no problem telling you what to do, right? In fact, the doubt by most americans about global climate change (among other things) is directly the consequence of tv telling you what to think or at least nudging you in that direction. Thirty second adds by the candidates shown in Superbowl halftime is basically the worst you can get.

Actually, most everyone out here believes in global climate change as being man-made. And that is because of tv telling them that(F~~ing NBC) I've had arguements were people had almost no idea what I was talking about. It's a stereotype that they don't believe in global climate change, because no one cares enough to drive less or anything...

[King Dain II]

Not for retard tricks?

My hole point was there was no global warming scam right now, here would be barely any thought about going green. The only reason we are even discussing this topic at all is because of it.

I give that a lot of credit. The World is about to End in 50 YEARS! Is more convincing than The Earth is in a state of decline, we will need to switch eventually!

Global Warming has the the means, motive and opportunity, outright truth has only the motive behind it.

[Hologram]

I'm gonna go with global climate change following a pattern eons old, but this time around the increased amount of greenhouse gases put in the air artificially by humans has intensified the warming process, and may lead to a more dramatic cooling later. But I'm no scientist, I just look at a subject long enough and call it as I see it.

[HapSmo19]

You'd think the planet would've burst into flames between 75-100 years ago.

Here's the (US)state record temperatures and dates.

State, °F, °C, Date, Station, Elevation in feet

Alabama 112 44 Sept. 5, 1925 Centerville 345
Alaska 100 38 June 27, 1915 Fort Yukon est. 420
Arizona 128 53 June 29, 1994 Lake Havasu City 505
Arkansas 120 49 Aug. 10, 1936 Ozark 396
California 134 57 July 10, 1913 Greenland Ranch -178
Colorado 118 48 July 11, 1888 Bennett 5,484
Connecticut 106 41 July 15, 1995 Danbury 450
Delaware 110 43 July 21, 1930 Millsboro 20
D.C. 106 41 July 20, 1930 Washington 410
Florida 109 43 June 29, 1931 Monticello 207
Georgia 112 44 Aug. 20, 1983 Greenville 860
Hawaii 100 38 Apr. 27, 1931 Pahala 850
Idaho 118 48 July 28, 1934 Orofino 1,027
Illinois 117 47 July 14, 1954 E. St. Louis 410
Indiana 116 47 July 14, 1936 Collegeville 672
Iowa 118 48 July 20, 1934 Keokuk 614
Kansas 121 49 July 24, 1936 Alton (near) 1,651
Kentucky 114 46 July 28, 1930 Greensburg 581
Louisiana 114 46 Aug. 10, 1936 Plain Dealing 268
Maine 105 41 July 10, 1911 North Bridgton 450
Maryland 109 43 July 10, 1936 Cumberland & Frederick 623; 325
Massachusetts 107 42 Aug. 2, 1975 New Bedford & Chester 120; 640
Michigan 112 44 July 13, 1936 Mio 963
Minnesota 114 46 July 6, 1936 Moorhead 904
Mississippi 115 46 July 29, 1930 Holly Springs 600
Missouri 118 48 July 14, 1954 Warsaw & Union 705; 560
Montana 117 47 July 5, 1937 Medicine Lake 1,950
Nebraska 118 48 July 24, 1936 Minden 2,169
Nevada 125 52 June 29, 1994 Laughlin 605
New Hampshire 106 41 July 4, 1911 Nashua 125
New Jersey 110 43 July 10, 1936 Runyon 18
New Mexico 122 50 June 27, 1994 Waste Isolat. Pilot Pit 3,418
New York 108 42 July 22, 1926 Troy 35
North Carolina 110 43 Aug. 21, 1983 Fayetteville 213
North Dakota 121 49 July 6, 1936 Steele 1,857
Ohio 113 45 July 21, 1934 Gallipolis (near) 673
Oklahoma 120 49 June 27, 1994 Tipton 1,350
Oregon 119 48 Aug. 10, 1898 Pendleton 1,074
Pennsylvania 111 44 July 10, 1936 Phoenixville 100
Rhode Island 104 40 Aug. 2, 1975 Providence 51
South Carolina 111 44 June 28, 1954 Camden 170
South Dakota 120 49 July 5, 1936 Gannvalley 1,750
Tennessee 113 45 Aug. 9, 1930 Perryville 377
Texas 120 49 June 28, 1994 Monahans 2,660
Utah 117 47 July 5, 1895 Saint George 2,880
Vermont 105 41 July 4, 1911 Vernon 310
Virginia 110 43 July 15, 1954 Balcony Falls 725
Washington 118 48 Aug. 5, 1961 Ice Harbor Dam 475
West Virginia 112 44 July 10, 1936 Martinsburg 435
Wisconsin 114 46 July 13, 1936 Wisconsin Dells 900
Wyoming 115 46 Aug. 8, 1983 Basin 3,500

[Juan_Bottom]

Um.. so?

[HapSmo19]

Um.. so?

Why were the thirties so damn hot? Could it have been the sun?

[Hologram]

And now you're going to be the one judging how cognitive an argument is? We must be getting desperate.....

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[HapSmo19]

Really?

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[jonesthecurl]

Yes, really.

Here are my findings:

Average energy consumption for fleet of aircraft carriers - 1 bazzillion calories

Average energy consumption for Al Gore - 2 bazillion calories

There, I've even stated my source, just like you did.[/quote]

Isn't your bald head cold without a hat?


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[Hologram]

Am I hallucinating or are we receiving another incarnation of Norse?

[The Weird One]

Am I hallucinating or are we receiving another incarnation of Norse?

wouldn't surprise me.

[HapSmo19]

I was thinking chaos made a multi. He's the only one I remember saying "fooking". He said somewhere that he wanted a fresh start as well.

[The Weird One]

I was thinking chaos made a multi. He's the only one I remember saying "fooking". He said somewhere that he wanted a fresh start as well.

norse, probably...

[Hologram]

I was thinking chaos made a multi. He's the only one I remember saying "fooking". He said somewhere that he wanted a fresh start as well.

norse, probably...

Norse definitely.

By odin, what has happened to this forum. This is a dark, dark day.

Yes, I happen to know quite alot about Galloway. The intention of the video was quite simple.

[Jenos Ridan]

IS REAL!!!

Okay, let's do a poll on this shizzle. I've just read something interresting about it and wonder what the opinion of you people is.

Though I really do not, or pretend, to understand how it is happening, I know it is happening. I cannot ignore the FACT that the polar ice caps have shrunk by 50% over the last thirty years. Any one who cannot see what is staring them in the face is an idiot, no two ways about it.

[HapSmo19]

IS REAL!!!

Okay, let's do a poll on this shizzle. I've just read something interresting about it and wonder what the opinion of you people is.

Though I really do not, or pretend, to understand how it is happening, I know it is happening. I cannot ignore the FACT that the polar ice caps have shrunk by 50% over the last thirty years. Any one who cannot see what is staring them in the face is an idiot, no two ways about it.

When speaking of idiots, don't forget to include in that bunch, those that volunteer to be put in a little box because "something" is happening.

[jonesthecurl]

I was thinking chaos made a multi. He's the only one I remember saying "fooking". He said somewhere that he wanted a fresh start as well.

Far too coherent.

[Jeff Hardy]

Its real and its caused by humans but theres not much we can do about it
its the goverment, car manufactorers, ... that can do stuff about it
rather than telling us to turn the lights off or take the train and shit like that they should make cars, lights that dont damage the envirement

[cmckinney]

If global warming is caused by humans...how has it happened before humans ever came about?

*Repeating what I said yesterday

"30 years ago people were scared to death of global cooling. It turned out to be nothing.

Climate change has been around since the beginning of time. The earth has gotten hotter and cooler long before humans started spraying their fancy aerosols and hairsprays into the ozone layer.

Al Gore is just using fear tactics to advance his liberal agenda."

[mpjh]

Does it matter. By the time the real horrendous climate change occurs, I will be dead. This is a issue for the young. My only suggestion to them is, organize, educate, act. If you don't regardless who is causing the climate change, you will have a miserable existence.

[Snorri1234]

If global warming is caused by humans...how has it happened before humans ever came about?

The thing is that while it's a natural thing, we are speeding it up. Global warming is a bad term to use, as it's actually Enhanced Global Warming that is the problem. We have to try to stall it, but we can never really stop it.

[Curmudgeonx]

If global warming is caused by humans...how has it happened before humans ever came about?

*Repeating what I said yesterday

"30 years ago people were scared to death of global cooling. It turned out to be nothing.

Climate change has been around since the beginning of time. The earth has gotten hotter and cooler long before humans started spraying their fancy aerosols and hairsprays into the ozone layer.

Al Gore is just using fear tactics to advance his liberal agenda."

QFT.

Look towards the Sun, that is the real culprit. We are entering a cyclical phase of solar flares/heating.

Our recorded history simply started when we were still in an Ice Age. Doesn't mean that an Ice Age is the natural state of the planet, that is only our perspective. The natural temperature of the planet over the last million years would probably be a helluva lot warmer than now, and that is only going back the last million; don't get me started on the last (b)illion years.