Let's solve this here!

[The Eternal Icon]

How's everyone doing?

There seems to be a bit of an issue going on in regards to freestyle turn taking.
So I would like to solve this problem here. I was going to ask whether or not negative feedback is appropriate due to casual taking of turns but that would simply come off as crying about neg feedback and that is not what this thread is for so I will word it as this...

Is it ok (Acceptable and without fault) to take turns casually in a 24 hour game?



Now, in terms of my opinion, I believe speed games are for sitting down and playing through to completion... I believe a player who makes a 24 hour game may play speed as well, but that being freemium neglects them of the full power to choose. If they host a 24 hour game, the acceptor does not have to play RealTime with the host who may be looking for a realtime game.


That being said... I play CC while I am at work.

I do security alot right now and while on lot duty, I am able to have a laptop out where I can watch movies, play CC or listen to music if I am not tracking an individual or performing my rounds. Alot of the time I can make moves on CC, play a little bit but I am required to stay alert should I be called into action to respond to civil unrest.

When I get a call or have to make my rounds, I obviously have no choice but to do so. In that case the music is turned down, the movie is paused, and CC is minimized. I do not make 19$ an hour to neglect a call or postpone my rounds so that I can stay on CC to start a turn so that someone else can get a bonus.

CC's front page says: Designed for the casual gamer, playing Conquer Club is not a time consuming process. You can take your turn in 5 minutes with your morning cup of coffee or in between classes.

If you are drinking your morning cup of coffee, finish and wipe the table and your opponent takes a bonus when you leave... should you stick around to begin your turn? If you have 10 minutes before class, check your email, print an assignement, make your move and head out, and your opponent has taken a bonus, should you stick around and begin your turn?

In my case, if I am playing a casual 24 hour game and I make a move, get a call to action and my opponent takes a bonus, should I delay my rounds, when I get told that someone's pulled a needle on an employee and made off with some goods, or has assaulted 3 officers and that I need to take them down, should I say: "Copy that, give me 3 minutes".....?

Obviously you can tell that it would not make sense. So I know there will be answers on both sides and that is what I am looking forward to. Obviously someone who has taken a bonus will be looking for an early start, someone who doesn't want them to cash in on the bonus will say no, but when it comes down to actually needing to act and not having time to consider playing strategy because you are doing something else.... is it inappropriate not to start your turn anyway?

I don't think so.

CC's front page says this game is for the casual player.When it comes to feedback then... Is it then fine to decide that the person you are playing has no right to treat the game casually and must move when you want them to or be deserving of a negative feedback or harsh language and abuse?

You guys vote and let's see what we come up with.

[White Moose]

If you have limited time to play, then you shouldnt play Freestyle.

However, you have 24 hours to take your turn. No one can force you to take your turn. You can take it whenever you want to.

[gdeangel]

Been discussed before. I agree with white moose, but last time the consensus was otherwise. See here http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=49878&start=0&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&view=viewpoll. Under the old feedback system at least, you could get the neg removed.

[King Dain II]

A little of both: You have 24 hours, so you should use it, but do not join a freestyle game if you are going to be there for only 5 minutes, then go someplace for several hours.

[oVo]

FREESTYLE does not mean real time.
Real Time (RT©) and Speed Games are the only opportunities of playing all the way through in one session,
everything else is casual. Why is this so? Because in BOTH freestyle and sequencial formats every player
has 24 hours in which to take their turn.

[Sentinel XIV]

If a game is setup specifically as a real-time game, in Live Chat or through PM, then you should stick around unless emergency strikes. However, if you are just searching in the Game Finder for a casual freestyle game, then you should not be expected to stick around when the game starts, as it was never advertised as a real-time game. Pretty simple if you ask me.

[White Moose]

FREESTYLE does not mean real time.
Real Time (RT©) and Speed Games are the only opportunities of playing all the way through in one session,
everything else is casual. Why is this so? Because in BOTH freestyle and sequencial formats every player
has 24 hours in which to take their turn.

Well Said

[The Eternal Icon]

If you have limited time to play, then you shouldnt play Freestyle.

However, you have 24 hours to take your turn. No one can force you to take your turn. You can take it whenever you want to.

I disagree with you here moose, Freestyle is a great way to play. Whether or not you have a limited time, if you believe you can play well with your availability, then I don't see a problem playing freestyle and moving when you can.

[Shatners Bassoon]

If a game is setup specifically as a real-time game, in Live Chat or through PM, then you should stick around unless emergency strikes. However, if you are just searching in the Game Finder for a casual freestyle game, then you should not be expected to stick around when the game starts, as it was never advertised as a real-time game. Pretty simple if you ask me.

Agreed.

[King Dain II]

I KNOW that freestyle does not mean real time!!!

All I am saying is that it is courteous to play at least a few rounds before you have to go. Yes, some people have busy schedules, and they do not stay online. That is OK. Yes, some emergencies come up and people have to leave. That is OK.

I am not trying to make casual games speed, but in reality I will probably be buying premium in a month or two (I like to test things out before I pay money for them if possible, just the kind of person I am).

[oVo]

Things is... a player can join a freestyle game and it could be hours later before it even starts.

[King Dain II]

Sorry, I forgot that there can be more than 2 people in a game. (no really, I honestly forgot.)

[whitestazn88]

yeah... 24 hours is not that long to wait.

[Stroop]

If you join a public, casual game, freestyle or not, you can't be expected to play it through right away. On the other hand, I can see how joining a game, playing one turn, then leaving to do whatever can upset the other player, especially if they have the limited amount of game slots that comes with having no money.

[norsemsn1066]

FREESTYLE does not mean real time.
Real Time (RT©) and Speed Games are the only opportunities of playing all the way through in one session,
everything else is casual. Why is this so? Because in BOTH freestyle and sequencial formats every player
has 24 hours in which to take their turn.

Exactly!!! 24 hours IS a casual game. If you take the full time you do and shouldn't receive a neg feedback because of it.

OTOH
I would try to speed up if everyone at the start of the game says they'd like to play as fast as possible but it is still not worthy of a feedback that is negative.

Just sayin', eh!!!

[mibi]

wow, thats the most lopsided poll results I've seen. Currently at 98%. Where are all the poll spoilers?

[Bruceswar]

Have played many many freestyle games, I will say one thing. Freestyle, may not be real time, even with 1 vs 1. But the more you are around your PC, the better your chances of winning are. Freestyle is all about timing. The larger games like 8 man freestyle that are casual, the winners are almost always the same people. These same people know when to do and WHEN. WHEN is the key! That being said take the full 24 hours if you want. You will more than likely lose using the clock.

[jonesthecurl]

Sometimes I wish other players would hurry up and take thier turn. But I only play "Casual" because I don't know when in the day I'll be busy. It may take me 3 seconds to notice it's my go *(has happened), or it may take me 23 hours before I can get to the computer. That's the nature of the games I play, and that's why I play that type of game.

[gloryordeath]

Not real hard to under stand is it? 24 hours to take a turn not a speed game or a freestyle game even. Not that a freestyle players have any less time to move.