Europa [Quenched]

[oaktown]

i think the dots on the sea paths still need to stand out more - perhaps a light glow around them? The paths around Scotland/Ireland are still quite dim.

[saaimen]

maybe add a slight white glow around every dot?

perhaps a light glow around them?

Hey!!!
You stole my idea

[jyor0385]

Crete and Cyprus do border. I expect this is down to user error...

Look, I was only trying to help. The map's in beta so that suggests that there may be bugs to work out. If I find that it wasn't user error I'll take a screen shot in my next turn. Otherwise your assumption that I'm a chump is correct.

[MrBenn]

OK, here's another minor update - I have removed the superfluous label for Italy, and added a slight glow to the ocean routes. For some reason, the Northern Ireland-Scotland route is more blurry on the Large map, so I have have made the ocean in the background a fraction lighter there to see if that helps....


[bigimg]http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj320/bpawley/EuropaB2-L.jpg[/bigimg]

[samuelc812]

Thats better

[jyor0385]

Crete and Cyprus do border. I expect this is down to user error...

Look, I was only trying to help. The map's in beta so that suggests that there may be bugs to work out. If I find that it wasn't user error I'll take a screen shot in my next turn. Otherwise your assumption that I'm a chump is correct.

You were right - I am a chump. Though I could almost swear that in my first turn I was in attack mode and the engine wouldn't allow it, in this last turn it in fact did. Loser error I guess.

[saaimen]

Crete and Cyprus do border. I expect this is down to user error...

Look, I was only trying to help. The map's in beta so that suggests that there may be bugs to work out. If I find that it wasn't user error I'll take a screen shot in my next turn. Otherwise your assumption that I'm a chump is correct.

You were right - I am a chump. Though I could almost swear that in my first turn I was in attack mode and the engine wouldn't allow it, in this last turn it in fact did. Loser error I guess.

Hats off to the honest chump!

[saaimen]

One more thing I noticed when peering over the map in a doubles game:
"med islands" is never written in full, nor is any sea named. Shouldn't the term "Mediterranean" be used somewhere, for our non-European friends?

[jyor0385]

Hats off to the honest chump!

Keepin it real, yo

[Mustapha Mond]

See [game]3521810[/game], rounds 9, 10 & 11.

I controlled:
- Armenia
- Azerbaijan
- Georgia
- Russia
- Turkey

and didn't get my bonus.

Needless to say, that kind of kills my strategy, plus the fact that I'm owed 12 armies.

[MrBenn]

The transcontinental bonus is brown in the legend. And KGD is... brown! I don't get why people don't get that

Hopefully the updated image (above) will make that clearer...

[StarofTroy]

This is my new favorite map! Well, it's tied with World 2.1. I love it! I've always gotten my transcontinental bonus. I think people aren't seeing that satellite country. This map is a lot of fun to play on fog too, especially because of that, and the med islands. Great job.

[StarofTroy]

lol i think that's how I was winning actually. Now with that new updated map everyone else will see what I'm doing!

[Shatners Bassoon]

don't know if this has been highlighted yet,but you don't seem to be receiving your bonus armies for holding Transcontinental.


see DAZMFC's position in [game]3510697[/game]

[Shatners Bassoon]

don't know if this has been highlighted yet,but you don't seem to be receiving your bonus armies for holding Transcontinental.


see DAZMFC's position in [game]3510697[/game]

lol,just read the above post.....see that you have to hold KGD

[sublimeoneus]

So transcontinental/motherland is +4 and +1?

[saaimen]

No... Motherland bonus is +1 for Russia and KGD. But when you have Transcontinental, both countries (and the 1 bonus) are included in the continent. So +1 for Russia and KGD, or +4 for all of the Transcontinental (brown) regions.

EDIT: I was wrong here. Ignore the above.

[MrBenn]

So transcontinental/motherland is +4 and +1?

Actually, sublimeoneus is right here - the whole of transcontinental will give +5

[MrBenn]

PM sent to lackattack with the update images:

[bigimg]http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj320/bpawley/EuropaB2-L.jpg[/bigimg]

[e_i_pi]

I just played my first game on this map, got brilliant dice and won... thanks for including the dice hack Benn, great work

One area I misinterpreted was Sicily->Sardinia->Balearics. I thought there was a route from Sicily straight to Balearics. I know now that it isn't, but that's the only misinterpretation I found on the map, everything else was straight forward and easy to understand.

Oh, Croatia to Montenegro is a funny one, but I'm aware of the borders in that stretch of the woods, and it's easy to see on the big map anyhow.

[saaimen]

So transcontinental/motherland is +4 and +1?

Actually, sublimeoneus is right here - the whole of transcontinental will give +5

I'm sorry about that, I got it wrong. In fact I didn't know myself, even though I've had that bonus in our doubles game. I hadn't checked the log very well, I thought I got 4 for it anyway. My bad.
BUT even though I know it's my mistake, maybe the line of text about the Transcontinental bonus could be clearer. Now it says 'includes KGD', and that's why I assumed it also included the specific Russia-KGD bonus... Also, the "motherland; +1" is standing there completely apart of other continents. Others might also think the brown continent overrules this small bonus.
Or am I way off, and should I just shut up ?

One area I misinterpreted was Sicily->Sardinia->Balearics. I thought there was a route from Sicily straight to Balearics. I know now that it isn't, but that's the only misinterpretation I found on the map, everything else was straight forward and easy to understand.

I did see that Sicily-Balearics is impossible, but somehow I thought Sardinia bordered Monaco :s... When I look again, I can't blame it on the map, but somehow it seemed logical at first.
How about letting all the seapaths arrive at completely different spots? Faroe&Norway->Iceland could be more separated (Faroe seapath to the southern tip of Iceland?), as could Sicily&Balearics->Sardinia (more sideways), Sardinia&Monaco->Corsica (Sardinia->Corsica around the East of Corsica?), and Crete&Turkey->Cyprus (Crete->Cyprus around southern tip of Cyprus?)...
These are mere suggestions to make those a bit clearer, of course. If there's not a lot of problems in beta play, maybe it's not worth the effort

[yeti_c]

Of all the sea route - I really think the only one that is misleading is the sicily -> Balearics...

All the other ones it's quite obvious that the track goes in and out - but with that one - it looks like it might flow past.

C.

[Thezzaruz]

-Text explaining the Kaliningrad (KGD) is part of the transcontinental region has been added to the bottom corner
-An additional label for Italy has been added

IMO both of these are unneccesary and look poor. Good work on the sea routes though.

[e_i_pi]

Of all the sea route - I really think the only one that is misleading is the sicily -> Balearics...

All the other ones it's quite obvious that the track goes in and out - but with that one - it looks like it might flow past.

C.

Yeah this is exactly what got me yeti. There are maps with 3-way borders, like um... Nubia, I think it is with the Well of Rameses. I guess there's others too not that I can think of them off the top of my head.

I think just shifting where one of the sea routes ends will make it clear

[MrBenn]

I've updated the Balearics-Sardinia route - a refresh will load the updated images ^^