***Finn Rock Fallout*** -- Game Over ~ Infected Win

wicked · Post by **wicked** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 8:34 pm

we don't. I'm not a mason. if you're thinking the married thing is a connection, it's not for us (maybe b/c we're almost divorced?). masons in previous games had no connection like marriage. actually this is the first game Andy has had married couples, which is why I didnt' assume my "wife" was even a character here.

wicked · Post by **wicked** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 8:35 pm

I imagine he's trying to trip me up IC. No worries, I'll answer anything, whether you want me to or not! LOL

supercram · Post by **supercram** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 8:36 pm

wicked wrote:I imagine he's trying to trip me up IC. No worries, I'll answer anything, whether you want me to or not! LOL

no i forgot whether you said you could talk at night or had just talked to houssam outside the thread.

but thank you, AK for jumping to wicked's defense.

you guys are as thick as thieves aren't you?

AK_iceman · Post by **AK_iceman** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 8:38 pm

supercram wrote:
wicked wrote:I imagine he's trying to trip me up IC. No worries, I'll answer anything, whether you want me to or not! LOL

no i forgot whether you said you could talk at night or had just talked to houssam outside the thread.

but thank you, AK for jumping to wicked's defense.

you guys are as thick as thieves aren't you?

Your right. I was "defending" her by remembering something she already posted. :roll:

supercram · Post by **supercram** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 8:40 pm

mmhmm.

'scuse me while i scribble a note here. :-k

wicked · Post by **wicked** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 8:41 pm

honestly, usually yes. we've played every game of Andy's, most everyone knows that. I got him good last game, as he trusted me and I was mafia. :lol:

I'm hoping it's not a reversal of that this game, as he very well may be screwing me over here! Like I said, if someone has proof, or can prove something to me, I'll go with that.

wicked · Post by **wicked** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 8:43 pm

You know honestly, with IC trying to throw clues out there, I'm pretty convinced he's not mafia. If that makes me look bad, so be it. But why would he be giving out clues if he was mafia??????

Master Bush · Post by **Master Bush** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 8:45 pm

Ok, I just read pages 20 up to now, and it comes back to the same basic simple thing.

*We have 2 different stories from 2 different people

*One is saying he is the COP and knows AK is mafia

*One is saying the he is a MASON and he is not mafia

Putting the "insane cop" theory aside, for the fact that it's coming from the accused.

**One of these 2 must be lynched, to find out who's lying.**

Once that is done, and we get our answer, we can then go about taking out the other players that are connected. The players that would seem to have a problem with this easy plan, are the players that are connected with them (i.e. the other mafia members)

I VOTE AK ICEMAN

And that vote will not change.

wicked · Post by **wicked** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 8:47 pm

Actually, the "insane cop" theory has come up in a number of games before, brought up by many different players. Andy has used a godfather role before, where the guilty would look innocent, so thinking he would use an insane role where the innocent would look guilty is not at all far-fetched.

wicked · Post by **wicked** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 8:49 pm

Why won't you even consider that to be a plausible theory MB?

Master Bush · Post by **Master Bush** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 8:52 pm

Here's another thing to look at. It seems like AK, REV and Wicked are all connected. Look at the groupings.

AK_iceman (H)
autoload (H)
dussle (H)
Machiavelli (H)
Xenhu (H)

Backglass (G)
Bogusbet (G)
Master Bush (G)
moz976 (G)
reverend_kyle (G)
HoussamtheGreat (G)

dagreatbroomhead (T)
Freetymes (T)
supercram (T)
trestain (T)
wicked (T)

It would make sense that Andy would put the 3 mafia members in different Locals. Which is also why AK would be talking to REV through a radio. That's how the Mafia would stay in touch.

wicked · Post by **wicked** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 8:57 pm

But MB, Mafia have never used radios to communicate before!!! they've always just talked at night, and never in any of my mafia roles has it given a means of communication!! Masons, OTOH, need a "special" way to communicate. I don't know where Cram was going with that, or what he knows, some more clues would be helpful!!!

And I could point any groupings of people at different locales and call them mafia... that's really absurd!!

wicked · Post by **wicked** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 9:00 pm

Ok, if I'm mafia with IC and RK, why was I one of the last to get the marriage connection????? I had to ask Cram what page! lol

Seriously guys, think about it. Why would IC openly admit his connection to RK? And that was WAAAY before IC was under suspicion.

Master Bush · Post by **Master Bush** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 9:03 pm

I just dont understand how somebody who has no clue who AK is, is defending him to the end? It really seems like you either 1) Know he's mafia and are trying to save him or 2) Know he's not mafia and are trying to save him. That's all I can think of, for you to be so steadfast in your defense.

wicked · Post by **wicked** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 9:09 pm

Or how about you guys haven't given me a good enough reason to believe he's not mafia at this point? Everything is circumstantial.

But you're right, I've probably defended him TOO much. I've also asked him questions and tried to get him to trip up as well, and so far he's passed all the tests. If I'm wrong, then I'm screwed, but at this point without any real evidence against him, I don't think I am.

Master Bush · Post by **Master Bush** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 9:13 pm

wicked wrote:but at this point without any real evidence against him, I don't think I am.

I think someone coming out as the COP and telling us that he checked out as being MAFIA is real evidence. Now if that info turns out to be wrong, then we then turn our attention to autoload. I cant see any other options at the moment.

wicked · Post by **wicked** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 9:18 pm

I believe Auto is a cop, and I believe he checked out IC and it came back infected. What we don't know is if that info can be trusted because of the possibility of an insane cop.

Master Bush · Post by **Master Bush** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 9:22 pm

I know how we can found out!

supercram · Post by **supercram** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 9:26 pm

look.

everybody here just wants to find the bad guys, right? (except the bad guys of course). we're all beating the shit out of each other and all based on autoload, who dropped in and then dropped out.

so let's wait a little, let's all take a deep breath and let's give some other people a chance to read all this shit and tell us what they think.

quick recap:
autoload seemed to be going after IC pretty hard.
IC and Kyle claim to be masons.
autoload claimes to be the cop and has asked Andy if IC is mafia and was told Yes
so far IC maintains that autoload is either lying or is the insane cop
wicked is behind IC 100%
i think someone needs to die today and i don't know who it's got to be.

feel free to add guys

moz976 · Post by **moz976** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 9:37 pm

Good lord at the posts tonight. Well I'm going to unvote autoload

I don't know whether he is a cop, and insane cop, or jut plain lying. But killing the cop tonight is just stupid.

I am not sure if I should trust Ice yet but I'll wait to see what Rev says before I cast my vote.

We still have a little time.

Backglass · Post by **Backglass** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 9:42 pm

Why is a Mason automatically assumed to not be infected?

autoload · Post by **autoload** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 9:45 pm

Sorry to disappear like that guys. I had someone come over right after I posted that. I have to get ready for work, but I will be back in the morning to continue the game.

Someone has to be lynched today. All of the veterans at the mafia site I play at tells me that a no vote is almost never the thing you want to do.

wicked · Post by **wicked** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 10:46 pm

Backglass wrote:Why is a Mason automatically assumed to not be infected?

Because why would a mafia need the power to talk at night? They already have it.

supercram · Post by **supercram** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 10:50 pm

may i ask:

wicked, for the sake of argument only.

i know you and your ex-wife are not masons, as you've said.

BUT let's say you were. would that be possible? in other words, would it be possible to have 2 sets of masons in an Andy game?

i'm not accusing you of masonry AT ALL. i'm just asking a hypothetical.

anyone who has an answer for this would be helpful.

Thanks.

wicked · Post by **wicked** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 11:14 pm

I don't know cram. Andy's only ever had one set, and I'm not sure if he's had them every game or not, I don't recall. I was reading up on the different roles today on Wikipedia, and it only ever mentioned one set. But the one thing you have to know about Andy is, anything's possible!! lol My personal opinion is there would only be one set, and he'd just create other interesting roles instead of two of the same, but that's just a guess/hunch.