Ender's Game and Conquer Club

[Wolffystyle]

After discussing it with my closet friends, I have decided that Conquer Club is actually like Ender's Game in that **SPOILER ALERT** we are actually sending out armies to die. Each game we play is a mini-intergalactic-battle that holds real-life consequences. Each reinforcement, each attack, each movement we make is a command that is sent to our combatting armies in space, or on a tiny islet in the south Atlantic, I'm not sure which...

Are there moral consequences to this newfound realization? Are we complicit with our murders, battles and wars now that we know they hold real weight?

Do our armies get mad when the battle is not played in real time? What do you think they do when they are waiting 20 hours facing a giant stack of the Green Andromeda galactic warships and they have been issued no commands?

Seeing how our "games" are indeed real, should we employ new strategies for combat, or do we stick to our old ignorant movements?

Please advise...

Wolffy

[wcaclimbing]

Unlike Ender's Game, we aren't actually sending real armies at each other. Its just numbers with no real-life army fighting for them.

If numbers saved in the server are morally important to you, then yes, we should be more careful.

But I'll stick with the auto-attack button.

[Wolffystyle]

I beg to disagree.

The point I am trying to make is that: We ARE sending real armies at each other. We may view them as 'lowly' numbers, but, in all actuality, these are real humans/aliens that we are commanding.

Isn't anyone else concerned?

[schmoozeinc]

im concerned that you keep your friends in the closet

[owenshooter]

I beg to disagree.

The point I am trying to make is that: We ARE sending real armies at each other. We may view them as 'lowly' numbers, but, in all actuality, these are real humans/aliens that we are commanding.

Isn't anyone else concerned?

yeah, i'm really concerned... i'm so concerned that i am = throwing a bake sale in my front yard for their widows...-0

p.s.-sometimes inside jokes aren't really funny to other people...
p.p.s.-(now, where is that epic failure pic frop used to post?)

[Wolffystyle]

yeah, i'm really concerned... i'm so concerned that i am = throwing a bake sale in my front yard for their widows...-0

p.s.-sometimes inside jokes aren't really funny to other people...
p.p.s.-(now, where is that epic failure pic frop used to post?)

Hmmm, if you haven't read the book, that's fine, just don't try to ostentatiously comment on this thread . My bet would be that upwards of a fifth of the active members on this site have read Ender's Game by Orson Scott Card. Those who haven't should really look into reading it.

My suggestion would be to avoid commenting on threads that you don't understand properly. Oh no! Then your posts total would lose a digit. -W

[owenshooter]

My suggestion would be to avoid commenting on threads that you don't understand properly. Oh no! Then your posts total would lose a digit. -W

um, know the book, doesn't make your thread funny... 5 total posts, 2 from you, 2 from me, 92 viewings... what does that tell you? just not funny...

[negoeien]

yeah, i'm really concerned... i'm so concerned that i am = throwing a bake sale in my front yard for their widows...-0

p.s.-sometimes inside jokes aren't really funny to other people...
p.p.s.-(now, where is that epic failure pic frop used to post?)

Hmmm, if you haven't read the book, that's fine, just don't try to ostentatiously comment on this thread . My bet would be that upwards of a fifth of the active members on this site have read Ender's Game by Orson Scott Card. Those who haven't should really look into reading it.

My suggestion would be to avoid commenting on threads that you don't understand properly. Oh no! Then your posts total would lose a digit. -W

I read it and it's one of my favourite books and author! I read them all except the last one.
Anyways still i think you don't have a valid point, Ender really didn't know he was commanding real troops and that it was not just a game anymore. There lies the difference , cause we know it or just digits and artificial numbers we control, however I like you're thoughts on this matter and I guess that if you really belive in it, it makes cc more interesting

[Woodruff]

After discussing it with my closet friends, I have decided that Conquer Club is actually like Ender's Game in that **SPOILER ALERT** we are actually sending out armies to die. Each game we play is a mini-intergalactic-battle that holds real-life consequences. Each reinforcement, each attack, each movement we make is a command that is sent to our combatting armies in space, or on a tiny islet in the south Atlantic, I'm not sure which...
Are there moral consequences to this newfound realization? Are we complicit with our murders, battles and wars now that we know they hold real weight?
Do our armies get mad when the battle is not played in real time? What do you think they do when they are waiting 20 hours facing a giant stack of the Green Andromeda galactic warships and they have been issued no commands?
Seeing how our "games" are indeed real, should we employ new strategies for combat, or do we stick to our old ignorant movements?
Please advise...
Wolffy

My advice is that you up your medication dosage.

(And yes, I've read the series.)

[psteijn]

Where do you get your stuff? It must be good shit

[Wolffystyle]

Here's what I'm getting at:

In the Ender's game series, Ender is an incredibly intelligent tactician, commander and strategist. If Conquer club were, hitherto unbeknownst to its users, a real life war rather than a random number simulation, who would be our commanders? Could we rely on our scores, medals and ranks? No. Actually, I think medals would wield us with the best tool to pick a commander. However, there are many more intangibles that would be needed examined before anyone was deemed fit to issue orders in war. Not that we need a commander, no, it's much better to combat the unified galactic enemies with different minds, strategies, perspectives and speeds.

While I am a brigadier on this site, I would be a mere cook in actual battle. Actually, I can't even cook right, I ate egg shell accidentally this morning and burnt my orange juice...don't ask me how.


Apprentice Cook Wolffy

[FabledIntegral]

Here's what I'm getting at:

In the Ender's game series, Ender is an incredibly intelligent tactician, commander and strategist. If Conquer club were, hitherto unbeknownst to its users, a real life war rather than a random number simulation, who would be our commanders? Could we rely on our scores, medals and ranks? No. Actually, I think medals would wield us with the best tool to pick a commander. However, there are many more intangibles that would be needed examined before anyone was deemed fit to issue orders in war. Not that we need a commander, no, it's much better to combat the unified galactic enemies with different minds, strategies, perspectives and speeds.

While I am a brigadier on this site, I would be a mere cook in actual battle. Actually, I can't even cook right, I ate egg shell accidentally this morning and burnt my orange juice...don't ask me how.


Apprentice Cook Wolffy

Good thing Ender didn't actually do any fighting. Rather he sat by thinknig he was good at some mere simulation. Much as you would be doing now. Thus you'd still be a brig.

[THE ARMY]

Good post i enjoyed reading about it