New World Order?

[Skittles!]

50th and you still prefer to bask in ignorance?


Actually it makes no difference if people like yourself remain clueless to the happenings that go on. It will STILL go on. You were asked to do a little research but couldn't be bothered, what having heard this all before in days gone by. Hmmm did you refuse to look into this even then? I can honestly say I have been lead like a sheep to slaughter for a number of years. It wasn't until I ventured out to think for myself, putting aside the bias of the media, that I began to put 2 & 2 together. I am happy to say, that today, I am no longer under the hypnotic control of the media.

As I and indeed the majority on this forum consider you to be barking mad it is a relief to know you disagree with me.

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Jay.. I have to say.. You like the idea of fear, don't you?

[jay_a2j]

50th and you still prefer to bask in ignorance?


Actually it makes no difference if people like yourself remain clueless to the happenings that go on. It will STILL go on. You were asked to do a little research but couldn't be bothered, what having heard this all before in days gone by. Hmmm did you refuse to look into this even then? I can honestly say I have been lead like a sheep to slaughter for a number of years. It wasn't until I ventured out to think for myself, putting aside the bias of the media, that I began to put 2 & 2 together. I am happy to say, that today, I am no longer under the hypnotic control of the media.

As I and indeed the majority on this forum consider you to be barking mad it is a relief to know you disagree with me.

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Jay.. I have to say.. You like the idea of fear, don't you?

Fear? Not at all.

[MeDeFe]

Serious Question: Why should the global currency reserve be in US$ when the US$ is headed for a free fall? Economically the USA are losing their hegemonic status, why should their money be the lead currency when there are far more stable alternatives?

[InkL0sed]

By the way - personally, I'd be all in favor of a new world order.

Sounds good to me. Maybe we can finally have world peace.

[captain.crazy]

Serious Question: Why should the global currency reserve be in US$ when the US$ is headed for a free fall? Economically the USA are losing their hegemonic status, why should their money be the lead currency when there are far more stable alternatives?

Suppose for a moment that all of the worlds currencies are not really backed by gold, silver or anything that is stable. Just for a moment, suppose that the worlds currencies are just paper. Then imagine for a moment that the Federal Reserve was really a private institution that was not audited buy anyone. Anyone! Then just imagine that the Federal Reserve was actually the institution that controlled the the economy and the value of the dollar. Now imagine that captain.crazy really isn't crazy at all, and that all of these things are actually true. Your imagination just became reality.

To answer your question... How many bold faced lies has the Fed told to Congress since this "emergency" began in October? What was the Tarp money supposed to be used for again? To bail out financial institutions and buy toxic assets.
Where is that money today? Mostly being shipped around the world to pay out other nations, and lets not forget, to pay out corporate "Bonuses" which really aren't bonuses, but loophole salary payments.
If you want to know why the single global currency idea should not be permitted, then consider this. The consolidation of power of Governments to the banking organizations has been disastrous because power corrupts the mind of those who wield it.

Eisenhower warned us against it, Kennedy warned us against it, Lincoln warned us against it, Thomas Jefferson warned against it. You owe it to yourself to at least investigate the possibilities. Observe the predicted outcomes of what happens next month at the G20 and our banking system even after the fed and treasury (~*cough*~ tax ~*cough*~ cheat ~*cough*~) said that they opposed global currency.

[InkL0sed]

And of course, when nothing happens at the G20 summit, you won't shut up. No, you'll make up an excuse, or say something did happen - it just wasn't as it appeared.

No, because you're not crazy. You're right because you say you are.

[captain.crazy]

And of course, when nothing happens at the G20 summit, you won't shut up. No, you'll make up an excuse, or say something did happen - it just wasn't as it appeared.

No, because you're not crazy. You're right because you say you are.

No, I will be thankful that I am wrong. I hope that I am wrong. 6 months ago, I didn't care at all about economics, didn't know anything about a New World order that wasn't a sound bite from the Bush Senior administration and an industrial punk band, had never heard the speech that Kennedy gave that was the one that got him shot and kept to myself about my religious and political views. I voted democratic and didn't pay attention to media, mainstream or alternative.

Now, all I want to do is get the word out there so that there is a chance to avoid what I believe is the prophecy coming to fruition.

[InkL0sed]

What happened 6 months ago that changed that? Did you lose your job?

[captain.crazy]

What happened 6 months ago that changed that? Did you lose your job?

I watched as all the members of republican party abandoned reason for madness bu supporting the beginning of the end of our economy with the bailout (tarp) bill. I also saw them voting for an emergency stimulus bill that they never read. I see the civilian army being constructed (Americor) and the new agricultural bill that allows the treasury to seize any business that it wants too without any reason or cause. All of this is a dangerous power shift, the likes of which I have never seen before in this country. People that are under oath to defend the constitution have shown to attack it openly. That's what happened.

You should take a look into Peter Schiff. He was the one called Dr. Doom for all of his predictions in 2006 that the economy was going to collapse, and he predicted the exact month that it would happen in too. Follow him, and look into the people that he talks about and you might come out to be a Ron Paul supporter too.

[InkL0sed]

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*snooze*

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[captain.crazy]

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*snooze*

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Sorry that you feel that way. It is that mentality of the vast majority of Americans that has allowed things to come to the point that they have. better for you to put your ear plugs in, the revolution is likely to get quite loud and I wouldn't want you to wake up right in the middle of it.

[InkL0sed]

More like I've heard these words a million times, and it's just boring.

Why must you play into your own stereotype so willingly? Just curious.

[captain.crazy]

More like I've heard these words a million times, and it's just boring.

Why must you play into your own stereotype so willingly? Just curious.

The word has to be spoken. You are meant to remain sleeping. Not everyone will wake up. Do you care to disprove or debate in a constructive way? Maybe help me understand why I am wrong? Or are you simply going to insist on insulting me and what I say? If that is the case, I will simply ignore you.

[Simon Viavant]

Sorry captain, we're so used to this stuff from jay that this is nothing to us.

[captain.crazy]

Sorry captain, we're so used to this stuff from jay that this is nothing to us.

nonetheless, how do you refute the claims other than to habitually shake your head and insult the sources of this viewpoint? If you can change my mind, I would be grateful, I am losing sleep over this.

[captain.crazy]

More power grabbing!

totalitarianism!

http://thepoliticaljungle.blogspot.com/

[2dimes]

Captain Crazy, nice avatar. Are you aware of it's true origins and symbolism. Thank you in advance for much semi coherent discussion.

[captain.crazy]

Captain Crazy, nice avatar. Are you aware of it's true origins and symbolism. Thank you in advance for much semi coherent discussion.

Sure, No one but Bonesmen (as far as I know) knows what the 322 stands for. does that answer your question?

[MeDeFe]

Serious Question: Why should the global currency reserve be in US$ when the US$ is headed for a free fall? Economically the USA are losing their hegemonic status, why should their money be the lead currency when there are far more stable alternatives?

Suppose for a moment that all of the worlds currencies are not really backed by gold, silver or anything that is stable. Just for a moment, suppose that the worlds currencies are just paper. Then imagine for a moment that the Federal Reserve was really a private institution that was not audited buy anyone. Anyone! Then just imagine that the Federal Reserve was actually the institution that controlled the the economy and the value of the dollar. Now imagine that captain.crazy really isn't crazy at all, and that all of these things are actually true. Your imagination just became reality.

To answer your question... How many bold faced lies has the Fed told to Congress since this "emergency" began in October? What was the Tarp money supposed to be used for again? To bail out financial institutions and buy toxic assets.
Where is that money today? Mostly being shipped around the world to pay out other nations, and lets not forget, to pay out corporate "Bonuses" which really aren't bonuses, but loophole salary payments.
If you want to know why the single global currency idea should not be permitted, then consider this. The consolidation of power of Governments to the banking organizations has been disastrous because power corrupts the mind of those who wield it.

Eisenhower warned us against it, Kennedy warned us against it, Lincoln warned us against it, Thomas Jefferson warned against it. You owe it to yourself to at least investigate the possibilities. Observe the predicted outcomes of what happens next month at the G20 and our banking system even after the fed and treasury (~*cough*~ tax ~*cough*~ cheat ~*cough*~) said that they opposed global currency.

This sounds more like an attack on money itself than like an answer to my question. We won't be getting away from having a global lead currency in the short-term, but using a supranational currency would be much preferable to the current system. Personally I would prefer for currencies to be completely decentralized.

[muy_thaiguy]

Sorry captain, we're so used to this stuff from jay that this is nothing to us.

nonetheless, how do you refute the claims other than to habitually shake your head and insult the sources of this viewpoint? If you can change my mind, I would be grateful, I am losing sleep over this.

I refute your claims that it is a World order, when in fact, it is the New Wyoming Order.

The New Wyoming Order is there to replace the old mundane orders of the past, like with the USSR.

The New Wyoming Order is the only thing that ever caught me, no one else had the ability to do so.

Why do so many people mis-quote me or misunderstand what I say? I never said "New World Order," I said "New Wyoming Order."

As one of the founders of the NWO, I am appalled that people think that the NWO is meant for the world, which it is not! It was meant as a way to steer clear of the rut that other states had pulled in on themselves. It was what led to my daughter marrying John J. Pershing, as well as the establishment of Yellowstone National Park by Pres. Teddy Roosevelt, and the creation of Grand Teton National Park thanks to the efforts of John D. Rockefeller Jr.

[jay_a2j]

Serious Question: Why should the global currency reserve be in US$ when the US$ is headed for a free fall? Economically the USA are losing their hegemonic status, why should their money be the lead currency when there are far more stable alternatives?

This is exactly why we are having these massive bailouts here in the US. They are flooding the economy with newly printed dollars, thus destroying the value of the dollar. They will "have no choice" but to come up with a new currency, one that all countries will use. Don't worry, the dollars days are numbered.

[captain.crazy]

Serious Question: Why should the global currency reserve be in US$ when the US$ is headed for a free fall? Economically the USA are losing their hegemonic status, why should their money be the lead currency when there are far more stable alternatives?

This is exactly why we are having these massive bailouts here in the US. They are flooding the economy with newly printed dollars, thus destroying the value of the dollar. They will "have no choice" but to come up with a new currency, one that all countries will use. Don't worry, the dollars days are numbered.

Thats exactly right... I believe that the same thing happened about 10 years ago in Argentina or Venezuela, not sure which. It is said that you could wallpaper your walls with money rather than wallpaper, and it was cheaper.

[comic boy]

Serious Question: Why should the global currency reserve be in US$ when the US$ is headed for a free fall? Economically the USA are losing their hegemonic status, why should their money be the lead currency when there are far more stable alternatives?

This is exactly why we are having these massive bailouts here in the US. They are flooding the economy with newly printed dollars, thus destroying the value of the dollar. They will "have no choice" but to come up with a new currency, one that all countries will use. Don't worry, the dollars days are numbered.

Please post a link showing how much the dollar has fallen recently.

[captain.crazy]

Serious Question: Why should the global currency reserve be in US$ when the US$ is headed for a free fall? Economically the USA are losing their hegemonic status, why should their money be the lead currency when there are far more stable alternatives?

This is exactly why we are having these massive bailouts here in the US. They are flooding the economy with newly printed dollars, thus destroying the value of the dollar. They will "have no choice" but to come up with a new currency, one that all countries will use. Don't worry, the dollars days are numbered.

Please post a link showing how much the dollar has fallen recently.

Its the hyperinflation of the dollar that is the concern. Not the value of the dollar when compared to other currencies that we are talking about. The fact that we have printed the following:

TARP: 800+ billion
Stimulus: 1+ trillion
Amnibus: 1+ trillion

All within a 6 month period, and the next year budget proposes another trillion (I think) for next year. When China started talking about changing the global reserve currency, they were expressing a lack of confidence in the dollar with regards to what printing and spending the US government is doing / proposing. Our Government, like some of you here, is overly welcome to the notion of a single world currency, or a currency in the US, the Amero, like the Euro.

[jay_a2j]

Serious Question: Why should the global currency reserve be in US$ when the US$ is headed for a free fall? Economically the USA are losing their hegemonic status, why should their money be the lead currency when there are far more stable alternatives?

This is exactly why we are having these massive bailouts here in the US. They are flooding the economy with newly printed dollars, thus destroying the value of the dollar. They will "have no choice" but to come up with a new currency, one that all countries will use. Don't worry, the dollars days are numbered.

Please post a link showing how much the dollar has fallen recently.

Its the hyperinflation of the dollar that is the concern. Not the value of the dollar when compared to other currencies that we are talking about. The fact that we have printed the following:

TARP: 800+ billion
Stimulus: 1+ trillion
Amnibus: 1+ trillion

All within a 6 month period, and the next year budget proposes another trillion (I think) for next year. When China started talking about changing the global reserve currency, they were expressing a lack of confidence in the dollar with regards to what printing and spending the US government is doing / proposing. Our Government, like some of you here, is overly welcome to the notion of a single world currency, or a currency in the US, the Amero, like the Euro.

The guy interviewed in the OP (not in this video but another one) said that the Amero is a temporary fix to the problem.... a step, if you will, to a one world currency. Over the coming months keep an eye on prices. When you see a loaf of bread topping $10 then you can start to take this stuff seriously....(for those of you who doubt)