Moderators: Multi Hunters, Cheating/Abuse Team
I'm pretty sure he's been caught and taken care of.
I understand that Insom,InsomniaRed wrote:Night2 is freemium now. He was premium before the point dumping started, seeing as how he made private speed games. (he's pretty talented if he got away with making speed games as a freemium)
I am more concerned with leyla as he continues to receive points as a result of deadbeating. I'm sure justice will be served!!codeblue1018 wrote:I understand that Insom,InsomniaRed wrote:Night2 is freemium now. He was premium before the point dumping started, seeing as how he made private speed games. (he's pretty talented if he got away with making speed games as a freemium)
Okay, I've taken the time to make it easier for everyone - especially the mods/admins to count the points for themselves. The list below is NOT chronological. They are grouped by points from largest to smallest. The games that I have taken are the one's recently that I actually took the time to enter the game, and see if it constituted a thrown game. There are a TOTAL of 53 blatantly throw games. For a total of 676 points. Also, I've included proof for SOME games where it's obvious that the game was tossed.Night Strike wrote:Night2 was banned by Optimus, and later busted with a couple new accounts by KA.
In order for leyla to receive a warning or reset, someone will need to calculate the number of games and points won.
I wonder if it is actually leyla....considering some of the way that he said things.owenator wrote: And by the way. Judging by leyla's recent denial of not knowing what had happened...kind of suspicious, figuring how Game: 4509895 was played about a month ago. Anyways, everyone deserves a chance, and in my opinion you should just reset her points to 1500.
leyla wrote: night2 is my friend and he he knows my password in case of internet connection problems which happens a lot in my country.
leyla wrote: we had a fight last night and i think he is did all this to prove some thing to me. he is so talented and exactly knows what will be the reaction of the site admins to this.
leyla wrote:im not proud of what happened , and i dont want these points , and will be so happy too take them back from me and even ban me.
Hi, this is Night2 and I asked leyla to post this here as I can't do it myself ...
First of all I have to tell the story, I can't tell my reason why I did this action in public, but just know it that after some happens last night between me and leyla, I decided to leave this site, I already had this decide some days ago, but I changed my mind, then again I made that decide, I'm leyla's regular sitter and I had her password, last night when she went to sleep I started my job, I logged into my account with Fire Fox 3.0.7 (For admins if they want to check user agents and see I'm telling truth) and logged into leyla's account with Internet Explorer 7, I wanted to give her the points that me and her collected from our team games during weeks and months with our own hand and our own try ...
I did it and made 49 games, on the map that we both always played and that map was all our memories here, and then I joined them and started 1 turn in each with leyla's account, I got banned fastly by Optimus Prime or else I would create more games, anyway after all of them I wanted to play a game that still is waiting (Game 4848560) with other 2 accounts I made some days ago when first time I decided to do this, and then report myself as Multi Accounter to get busted, my other 2 accounts are Night2_2 and Night2_3 that I already told this in eTicket system to Admins and this writings is only for lucidity ...
After all I told it, I don't care what you do with me, do whatever is fair, but leyla has right to keep our points and as she didn't do this, and I never saw myself a rule for Point Dumping, this is what Twill wrote about it:
And if this is the rule so according to it, leyla should be warned only if you count what I did with her account as her action ...Just to clear things up:
The points do not belong to you, they are part of a pool that self-regulates to reflect the skill of you vis-a-vis other players. Point dumping throws that balance off and ultimately leads to rapid point inflation.
The rules, whatever they may be called, are clearly written and throwing games (i.e. point dumping) is clearly forbidden.
We will go through those users who gained from joining games which were clearly being thrown and issue warnings, if they repeatedly gain from point dumpers even after receiving the warning, they will get point resets.
We enforce the rules to maintain some semblance of validity to the scoreboard and maintain an enjoyable playing atmosphere for the majority of users. While any user may pay to use the site, that does not exempt them from the rules nor does it enable them to abuse the scoring system in any way. It's just that simple.
Twill
And I just want to you guys know, we didn't cheat, this isn't cheating or abusing, if it is, why when Sjnap did same, admins proudly told Cleared? only because he is friend with them or he was on top for a long time?
This isn't fair that admins do this to someone and don't do it to someone else ...
You Bruceswar, you that came proudly here and posted about us, you are one of the persons who got free points from Sjnap and if everything is fair, so you should get what Admins do with leyla too, if leyla gets warned you should get warned too and if she gets points reset, you should get it too, the only differents are that you did it yourself and leyla didn't did herself and also that you and Sjnap did a nice show, but I just gived my points away with no show and straight ...
And owenator, I'm happy you showed yourself up because of that tournament I kicked you out and other 2 games you lost to me, at least this happen showed me real friends and enemies ...
leyla wrote:Hi, this is Night2 and I asked leyla to post this here as I can't do it myself ...
First of all I have to tell the story, I can't tell my reason why I did this action in public, but just know it that after some happens last night between me and leyla, I decided to leave this site, I already had this decide some days ago, but I changed my mind, then again I made that decide, I'm leyla's regular sitter and I had her password, last night when she went to sleep I started my job, I logged into my account with Fire Fox 3.0.7 (For admins if they want to check user agents and see I'm telling truth) and logged into leyla's account with Internet Explorer 7, I wanted to give her the points that me and her collected from our team games during weeks and months with our own hand and our own try ...
I did it and made 49 games, on the map that we both always played and that map was all our memories here, and then I joined them and started 1 turn in each with leyla's account, I got banned fastly by Optimus Prime or else I would create more games, anyway after all of them I wanted to play a game that still is waiting (Game 4848560) with other 2 accounts I made some days ago when first time I decided to do this, and then report myself as Multi Accounter to get busted, my other 2 accounts are Night2_2 and Night2_3 that I already told this in eTicket system to Admins and this writings is only for lucidity ...
After all I told it, I don't care what you do with me, do whatever is fair, but leyla has right to keep our points and as she didn't do this, and I never saw myself a rule for Point Dumping, this is what Twill wrote about it:
And if this is the rule so according to it, leyla should be warned only if you count what I did with her account as her action ...Just to clear things up:
The points do not belong to you, they are part of a pool that self-regulates to reflect the skill of you vis-a-vis other players. Point dumping throws that balance off and ultimately leads to rapid point inflation.
The rules, whatever they may be called, are clearly written and throwing games (i.e. point dumping) is clearly forbidden.
We will go through those users who gained from joining games which were clearly being thrown and issue warnings, if they repeatedly gain from point dumpers even after receiving the warning, they will get point resets.
We enforce the rules to maintain some semblance of validity to the scoreboard and maintain an enjoyable playing atmosphere for the majority of users. While any user may pay to use the site, that does not exempt them from the rules nor does it enable them to abuse the scoring system in any way. It's just that simple.
Twill
And I just want to you guys know, we didn't cheat, this isn't cheating or abusing, if it is, why when Sjnap did same, admins proudly told Cleared? only because he is friend with them or he was on top for a long time?
This isn't fair that admins do this to someone and don't do it to someone else ...
You Bruceswar, you that came proudly here and posted about us, you are one of the persons who got free points from Sjnap and if everything is fair, so you should get what Admins do with leyla too, if leyla gets warned you should get warned too and if she gets points reset, you should get it too, the only differents are that you did it yourself and leyla didn't did herself and also that you and Sjnap did a nice show, but I just gived my points away with no show and straight ...
And owenator, I'm happy you showed yourself up because of that tournament I kicked you out and other 2 games you lost to me, at least this happen showed me real friends and enemies ...
TheJonah wrote:I`m not really that arsed. Just supporting my mucker.
.leyla, I have never had any issues with you or Night2. However, I don't condone cheating, but again - I think everyone deserves a chance. His actions certainly justify for a point reversal or reset for you, as you are just as responsible for giving a password to a cheater. I don't disagree with you that friends/family are certainly more important than a game, however I can assure you that none of my friends would EVER do what he had done, just because you got into a fight? Additionally, for him to stoop so low to try to flame me is a bit childish and I can certainly have choice words for him but the punishment has been served - to him, at least. As for him being a clever player...well, that's a loaded statement and I'll leave it at that. Being a talented player? Maybe. Playing almost exclusively on one map doesn't make you a good player, and I should know. Which is why, I decided to play in tournaments, and join public games whether it be multiple players, terminator, assassin, or team games. Fine, you're entitled to your right to defend whatever integrity, honour, or pride he has left. Remember, he's the one who insulted me initially. That DOES make him a jerk. You and him should read more carefully, otherwise it does make you look silly writing things that are unwarranted.leyla wrote:to owenator : with all respect, i think night2 is a clever and talented player, u can just check his games and see by urself.
i just posted what my friend asked me to, yes, he is my friend, and this is what really important to me.
and nothing else matters, i really dont care about this game anymore, as long as my best friend is busted and i never can play with him again
i dont want to show him innocent, i dont want these points, i know these are not fair points, and as i said before , i would be happy to get them back. but i cant stand u or any one else call him a jerk, yes what he did was childish, it was wrong, but he is punished enough.
and to site admins: i will respect ur judgment, and i just hope u act fair to all players in the same situation.
i have nothing more to say
Yes, because trusting a friend and them betraying you is a banworthy offense. Especially when that friend has never cheated before, ever. Good game.owenator wrote:leyla, I have never had any issues with you or Night2. However, I don't condone cheating, but again - I think everyone deserves a chance. His actions certainly justify for a point reversal or reset for you, as you are just as responsible for giving a password to a cheater.
TheJonah wrote:I`m not really that arsed. Just supporting my mucker.
http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewto ... =5&t=86470Night2: And this how you can see justice, friendship and putrefaction is all that is between Admins and many players, I just don't how lackattack left these positions to these Admins who clearly act different with their friends such as Sjnap and guys got points from him ...
I can now understand why many of other Admins retired during these weeks, good luck CC with these Admins and I'm sorry for lackattack who choose these guys as Admins!
