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woodruff, you are on the far left, regardless of how your registered.
your side doesn't like palin because she reminds them of reagan.
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thelastpatriot wrote:It's funny that sultanofsurreal would use of all people Joe Biden to try and insult Sarah Palin. Something happens to Obama and he'll be running the country. As if it wasn't screwed up bad enough by Obama already.
Top 10 of the great Answers Biden has made:
1.During a Feb. 25, 2009, interview on CBS' "Early Show," Biden encouraged viewers to visit a government-run Web site that tracks stimulus spending. When asked for the site's web address, Biden could not remember the site's "number."
"You know, I'm embarrassed. Do you know the Web site number?" he asked an aide standing out of view. "I should have it in front of me and I don't. I'm actually embarrassed


Joe Biden is definitely one of my favorite quote-masters, however...websites DO actually have NUMBERS. DNS makes it so that they're not necessary (as long as DNS is working), but they do have them. They're called IP addresses.

thelastpatriot wrote:3.During a Sept. 12, 2008, speech in Columbia, Mo., Biden called for Missouri State Sen. Chuck Graham, who is wheelchair-bound, to "stand up."
"Oh, God love ya," Biden said, after realizing his mistake. "What am I talking about?"


<laughing out loud> I remember that. Oops?

thelastpatriot wrote:5.Vice President Joe Biden has been keeping a low profile these days. But last week he popped into headlines when he clashed with aides to former President George W. Bush after claiming to have rebuked Bush in private meetings. Recalling a conversation during an interview with CNN, Biden said he told Bush in the Oval Office: "'Mr. President, turn and around look behind you. No one is following.'"
Karl Rove, Bush's top political adviser in the White House, called the conversation "fictional."


Well seriously...who can believe ANYTHING that Karl Rove says, you know?

thelastpatriot wrote:7.Biden said he was running for president -- not vice president -- during a Sept. 1, 2008, roundtable discussion in Scranton, Pa.
"Today is the moment for me as a United States senator running for president to put aside the national politics and focus on what's happening down there," Biden said.


Oh, I missed that one. That's funny as hell.
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scorpion86 wrote:woodruff, you are on the far left, regardless of how your registered.
your side doesn't like palin because she reminds them of reagan.


I'm on the far left? Ronald Reagan is probably my favorite President ever (I was in the military at the time, and he certainly took care of us well) and Palin absolutely does NOT remind me of him!

Hey Sultan, I'm far-left...so quit hating on me, would you? <laughing>

Serious question...Where did you get the idea I'm far-left? I'm just about as middle-of-the-road (all issues taken into consideration) as you can get. Certainly, I have individual issues where I'm far-left or far-right...hopefully, everyone does (yes, I mean that).
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Woodruff wrote:
scorpion86 wrote:woodruff, you are on the far left, regardless of how your registered.
your side doesn't like palin because she reminds them of reagan.


I'm on the far left? Ronald Reagan is probably my favorite President ever (I was in the military at the time, and he certainly took care of us well) and Palin absolutely does NOT remind me of him!

Hey Sultan, I'm far-left...so quit hating on me, would you? <laughing>

Serious question...Where did you get the idea I'm far-left? I'm just about as middle-of-the-road (all issues taken into consideration) as you can get. Certainly, I have individual issues where I'm far-left or far-right...hopefully, everyone does (yes, I mean that).


Apparently disliking an extreme rightist is enough to make you super left. I guess that makes me a pinko too.
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your comment about how you hope obama will keep his "promises" would suggest that your on the left. I too served under Reagan, the conservative ideals and values that he stood for still hold true today. conservatives like palin because she reflects these same values.
dislike me frig.? you may disagree with my politics publicly, but chances are your family life is fairly conservative, if your old enough to have one.
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I am so happy that there are people like you that support Palin. I am glad to see the Republicans flocking to Palin. That virtually grantees the republicans will not gain the presidency. So please send her money, tell her how wonderful she is, please.

By the way, I was in grade school under Eisenhower and Truman, high school under Kennedy and Johnson, in the Navy under Nixon, raised a family under Carter, Regan, and Clinton. None have the courage of Obama.
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I seriously saw someone with a Huckabee/Palin 2012 bumper sticker the other day.

There is very little more terrifying than that thought.
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That would be the death of the republican party, and what is terrifying about that?
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I'm still waiting for Reagan's trickle down economics to reach me,
fortunately I haven't held my breath.

Of course the same might be said of the current stimulous package,
unless we all take highway construction jobs.
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scorpion86 wrote:your comment about how you hope obama will keep his "promises" would suggest that your on the left.


Say WHAT? To say that I hope THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES has integrity is a liberal train of thought?!?!??! That actually makes sense to you?

That being said, yes, for instance...I DO want transparency in government...why don't you?

scorpion86 wrote:I too served under Reagan, the conservative ideals and values that he stood for still hold true today. conservatives like palin because she reflects these same values.


She may hold the same values and ideals PERSONALLY that Reagan did...I don't doubt that at all. However, she is far more outspoken about making changes for the nation regarding them that Reagan would not have done. She wants to enact them whereas he was willing to keep them personal. That is the difference between them that I see.
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SultanOfSurreal wrote:so according to bk any women who succeed in politics are not feminine, or more to the point are lacking some essential aspect of womanhood. i hope you see the problem with this assessment


Yes, I do see the problem with your assessment. You're equating a more extreme aspect of a quality with the quality itself.

Obviously, Palin has been successful at politics, so to say that being feminine (which she clearly is) would hamstring a politician is ludicrous. But that's not what he said.

Are you seriously saying "nah she can't really succeed in the big league politics, she's too much of a woman" isn't sexist?
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Snorri1234 wrote:
SultanOfSurreal wrote:so according to bk any women who succeed in politics are not feminine, or more to the point are lacking some essential aspect of womanhood. i hope you see the problem with this assessment


Yes, I do see the problem with your assessment. You're equating a more extreme aspect of a quality with the quality itself.
Obviously, Palin has been successful at politics, so to say that being feminine (which she clearly is) would hamstring a politician is ludicrous. But that's not what he said.

Are you seriously saying "nah she can't really succeed in the big league politics, she's too much of a woman" isn't sexist?


That's not what he said. Geez, reading comprehension folks...this isn't difficult!

Unless you seriously equate "too feminine" with "too much of a woman". I do not, nor do I think most people. Maybe you can start by looking up the definition of "feminine".
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Woodruff wrote:
Snorri1234 wrote:
SultanOfSurreal wrote:so according to bk any women who succeed in politics are not feminine, or more to the point are lacking some essential aspect of womanhood. i hope you see the problem with this assessment


Yes, I do see the problem with your assessment. You're equating a more extreme aspect of a quality with the quality itself.
Obviously, Palin has been successful at politics, so to say that being feminine (which she clearly is) would hamstring a politician is ludicrous. But that's not what he said.

Are you seriously saying "nah she can't really succeed in the big league politics, she's too much of a woman" isn't sexist?


That's not what he said. Geez, reading comprehension folks...this isn't difficult!

Unless you seriously equate "too feminine" with "too much of a woman". I do not, nor do I think most people. Maybe you can start by looking up the definition of "feminine".

Does this help your case?

fem·i·nine
Pronunciation:
\ˈfe-mə-nən\
Function:
adjective
1: female 1a(1)2: characteristic of or appropriate or unique to women <feminine beauty> <a feminine perspective>3: of, relating to, or constituting the gender that ordinarily includes most words or grammatical forms referring to females <a feminine noun>4 a: being an unstressed and usually hypermetric final syllable <a feminine ending> bof rhyme : having an unstressed final syllable c: having the final chord occurring on a weak beat <music in feminine cadences>


'cause I don't think it does.
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StiffMittens wrote:
Woodruff wrote:
Snorri1234 wrote:
SultanOfSurreal wrote:so according to bk any women who succeed in politics are not feminine, or more to the point are lacking some essential aspect of womanhood. i hope you see the problem with this assessment


Yes, I do see the problem with your assessment. You're equating a more extreme aspect of a quality with the quality itself.
Obviously, Palin has been successful at politics, so to say that being feminine (which she clearly is) would hamstring a politician is ludicrous. But that's not what he said.

Are you seriously saying "nah she can't really succeed in the big league politics, she's too much of a woman" isn't sexist?


That's not what he said. Geez, reading comprehension folks...this isn't difficult!

Unless you seriously equate "too feminine" with "too much of a woman". I do not, nor do I think most people. Maybe you can start by looking up the definition of "feminine".

Does this help your case?

fem·i·nine
Pronunciation:
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1: female 1a(1)2: characteristic of or appropriate or unique to women <feminine beauty> <a feminine perspective>3: of, relating to, or constituting the gender that ordinarily includes most words or grammatical forms referring to females <a feminine noun>4 a: being an unstressed and usually hypermetric final syllable <a feminine ending> bof rhyme : having an unstressed final syllable c: having the final chord occurring on a weak beat <music in feminine cadences>

'cause I don't think it does.


Interesting definition, since it's completely different from what my Merriam-Websters dictionary says (which is where I looked):

First definition: Having the qualities of a woman; becoming or appropriate to the female sex; as, in a good sense, modest, graceful, affectionate, confiding; or, in a bad sense, weak, nerveless, timid, pleasure-loving, effeminate
Second definition: befitting or characteristic of a woman especially a mature woman; "womanly virtues of gentleness and compassion"

Looking at this, I see things that are not necessarily attributible to women, such as modesty, grace, affection, weakness, weak nerves, timidity, being effeminate, gentleness and compassion.

Seeing that, perhaps you can see why aspects of femininity can certainly be seen in males as well as females. Thus, back to bk's statement, he's probably referring only to those aspects of femininity listed above that would typically be seen as negative when he made his statement (weakness, weak nerves, timidity, gentleness and compassion).
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Woodruff wrote:
StiffMittens wrote:
Woodruff wrote:
Snorri1234 wrote:
Yes, I do see the problem with your assessment. You're equating a more extreme aspect of a quality with the quality itself.
Obviously, Palin has been successful at politics, so to say that being feminine (which she clearly is) would hamstring a politician is ludicrous. But that's not what he said.

Are you seriously saying "nah she can't really succeed in the big league politics, she's too much of a woman" isn't sexist?


That's not what he said. Geez, reading comprehension folks...this isn't difficult!

Unless you seriously equate "too feminine" with "too much of a woman". I do not, nor do I think most people. Maybe you can start by looking up the definition of "feminine".

Does this help your case?

fem·i·nine
Pronunciation:
\ˈfe-mə-nən\
Function:
adjective
1: female 1a(1)2: characteristic of or appropriate or unique to women <feminine beauty> <a feminine perspective>3: of, relating to, or constituting the gender that ordinarily includes most words or grammatical forms referring to females <a feminine noun>4 a: being an unstressed and usually hypermetric final syllable <a feminine ending> bof rhyme : having an unstressed final syllable c: having the final chord occurring on a weak beat <music in feminine cadences>

'cause I don't think it does.


Interesting definition, since it's completely different from what my Merriam-Websters dictionary says (which is where I looked):

First definition: Having the qualities of a woman; becoming or appropriate to the female sex; as, in a good sense, modest, graceful, affectionate, confiding; or, in a bad sense, weak, nerveless, timid, pleasure-loving, effeminate
Second definition: befitting or characteristic of a woman especially a mature woman; "womanly virtues of gentleness and compassion"

Looking at this, I see things that are not necessarily attributible to women, such as modesty, grace, affection, weakness, weak nerves, timidity, being effeminate, gentleness and compassion.

Seeing that, perhaps you can see why aspects of femininity can certainly be seen in males as well as females. Thus, back to bk's statement, he's probably referring only to those aspects of femininity listed above that would typically be seen as negative when he made his statement (weakness, weak nerves, timidity, gentleness and compassion).

I get the distinct feeling your MW may be a bit dated. Or sexist, either one.
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MeDeFe wrote:I get the distinct feeling your MW may be a bit dated. Or sexist, either one.


Ok, let me ask you this then...are there no women that you would NOT consider to be feminine? I definitely know some women who I don't believe hold what I consider to be feminine characteristics...they are very masculine. And I certianly know men with feminine characteristics. That's my point...it's not just a woman thing, it's a feminine thing.
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Silly me. I equate femininity with softness. I love a soft vulnerable woman. I would suggest that the average woman is softer both emotionally and physically than the average man. Is that a sexist view? Do i give a flying f*ck if it is? Well now that we have the hard questions out of the way . . .


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mpjh wrote:That would be the death of the republican party, and what is terrifying about that?


While there's no chance anyone in their right mind would vote for said party and it would, indeed, demolish the Republican party's chances of succeeding at taking the seat, the fact of the matter remains that there are people in this country batshit insane enough to vote for them.
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Yes there are. So let's have them vote for Palin and go down in flames. Our job is to keep good opposing candidates that win.
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mpjh wrote:Yes there are. So let's have them vote for Palin and go down in flames. Our job is to keep good opposing candidates that win.


I just wish your job was presenting effective candidates able to do the job in a way that is best for the country.

Sadly, neither party seems capable of that any longer.
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Ah well, you can't have everything. For now, I am just happy keeping the fascists, that is Republican religious fanatics, out of the white house.
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mpjh wrote:Ah well, you can't have everything. For now, I am just happy keeping the fascists, that is Republican religious fanatics, out of the white house.


You really don't seem to act like much of a moderator. You might want to consider reining yourself in.
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mpjh wrote:Ah well, you can't have everything. For now, I am just happy keeping the fascists, that is Republican religious fanatics, out of the white house.


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Oh well, everyone has their priorities. I don't want to be a moderator so badly that I have to act like Palin is sane or not a right-wing fanatic. Besides, I am a moderator in Society of Cooks only.
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mpjh wrote:Oh well, everyone has their priorities. I don't want to be a moderator so badly that I have to act like Palin is sane or not a right-wing fanatic. Besides, I am a moderator in Society of Cooks only.


You should probably resign you are to opinionated. Hard to be a moderator when your opinion is so one sided. It's not just this issue.
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