New World Order - Love's Got The World In Motion

[Woodruff]

I have a pretty relevant question - how do small arms do, generally speaking, against nuclear weapons? Because, frankly, if the NWO uses nuclear weapons, I'm not quite sure how my hypothetical handgun is going to counter said nuclear weapons. Further, if the NWO uses some sort of biological threat and holes up in some underground bunker, will it matter if we all had firearms?

I guess my point is, your insistence that we be well-armed may have good intentions, but will it truly be effective?

Holy shit man, use your fuckin' head.

After immense global destruction, nuclear weapons will not function. Do you think you can launch a missile without electricity?

When your enemies (the people you want to control) are living 1 mile away from you, do you think nuking them is a good idea?

I am talking about post-catastrophe. This is all a setup for that. With no catastrophe, the powers that be would be happy with the status quo. They are planning for the future.

They don't want to hole up in a bunker and then come out and work for themselves. They want to hole up in a bunker and then come out and rule the fuckin' world. What fuckin' words don't you understand?

Honestly, the stupidity of people on this site is frustrating.

But yet again, you are overlooking the obvious...these people are allegedly ALREADY IN CONTROL for the most part. Since they are evil masters and have put themselves in that position, we'll presume that they're NOT COMPLETELY STUPID. IF they are, in fact, NOT completely stupid, then WHY would they want to put themselves into a position where they would NOT BE in control, for the most part? None of you has cleared this up. Since you're talking about how stupid we are, perhaps you could give it a go?

[Woodruff]

True...sort of. The technology edge, particularly given military weaponry, in the United States does give a tremendous advantage.

No fuel. No electricity. No functional circuit boards.

Think about it.

I have thought about it. You haven't. See my previous post.

[AAFitz]

Why do "they" want a NWO, it seems like such hard work. Admittedly I'm a bit lazy, but I don't get it. I mean, these guys are already powerful and rich enough to decide the next president (ask cap'n c for proof), what more do they want? I'd've thought they were pretty happy with the current world order, seeing as they're at the top of it. Surely a shake up might end up with plebs like us at the top instead.

If anyone out there is part of the NWO could you enlighten me as to what it is you're after. Personally I'd be quite happy to just let you have it, it might save a bit of hassle all round, but I don't know what it is you want!

Control.



They have all the money, they want control.

Control of the population. Their ideal world population is no more than 500,000,000 people.

What they may or may not realize is that this global system will be fulfillment of the kingdoms of the Earth Satan tempted Christ with in the desert. A man (the anti-christ) will rule this system and the world. Apart from believers in Christ, people will worship him as god.


It doesn't end so well for him nor those who worship him.

He already came... he was napolean..no hitler...no stalin...no saddam....no bush..no...obama..no...the next guy...

Grow up. If you want to make the world a better place just do it.

Posting on the internet, if you think there is some global conspiracy run by the future anti christ is complacency to the point of blasphemy. If you care about your God, and his children... go help feed them or something. Dont waste your time in this make believe world youve constructed to block out the harsh realities of the world. Seriously.

[InkL0sed]

I have a pretty relevant question - how do small arms do, generally speaking, against nuclear weapons? Because, frankly, if the NWO uses nuclear weapons, I'm not quite sure how my hypothetical handgun is going to counter said nuclear weapons. Further, if the NWO uses some sort of biological threat and holes up in some underground bunker, will it matter if we all had firearms?

I guess my point is, your insistence that we be well-armed may have good intentions, but will it truly be effective?

Holy shit man, use your fuckin' head.

After immense global destruction, nuclear weapons will not function. Do you think you can launch a missile without electricity?

When your enemies (the people you want to control) are living 1 mile away from you, do you think nuking them is a good idea?

I am talking about post-catastrophe. This is all a setup for that. With no catastrophe, the powers that be would be happy with the status quo. They are planning for the future.

They don't want to hole up in a bunker and then come out and work for themselves. They want to hole up in a bunker and then come out and rule the fuckin' world. What fuckin' words don't you understand?

Honestly, the stupidity of people on this site is frustrating.

I get that feeling too.

[MeDeFe]

(Actually, I would argue that Germany is, but that's for another discussion...)

I beg to differ, while it is true that there has been a sort of "awakening" to the rampant surveillance and censorship laws that are being passed, a way to actually influence the legislation has yet to be found.

[jay_a2j]

Control of the population. Their ideal world population is no more than 500,000,000 people.

So why not nuke the US and other countries till there are 500,000,000 people left?

Do you really need me to answer this?

Don't have an answer, eh?

Obviously I DO have to answer.


In order to obliterate the US (which only accounts for 300,000,000 of 6 Billion+) you would have to use a lot of nukes, in essence messing up the GLOBE. Therefore the quality of life in the rest of the world would SUCK.

Now, I believe you are missing the Pokeman re-runs. Run along.....

[MeDeFe]

Control of the population. Their ideal world population is no more than 500,000,000 people.

So why not nuke the US and other countries till there are 500,000,000 people left?

Do you really need me to answer this?

Don't have an answer, eh?

Obviously I DO have to answer.


In order to obliterate the US (which only accounts for 300,000,000 of 6 Billion+) you would have to use a lot of nukes, in essence messing up the GLOBE. Therefore the quality of life in the rest of the world would SUCK.

Now, I believe you are missing the Pokeman re-runs. Run along.....

So instead they would keep the USers and kill mostly everybody else?

[F1fth]

I have a pretty relevant question - how do small arms do, generally speaking, against nuclear weapons? Because, frankly, if the NWO uses nuclear weapons, I'm not quite sure how my hypothetical handgun is going to counter said nuclear weapons. Further, if the NWO uses some sort of biological threat and holes up in some underground bunker, will it matter if we all had firearms?

I guess my point is, your insistence that we be well-armed may have good intentions, but will it truly be effective?

Holy shit man, use your fuckin' head.

After immense global destruction, nuclear weapons will not function. Do you think you can launch a missile without electricity?

When your enemies (the people you want to control) are living 1 mile away from you, do you think nuking them is a good idea?

I am talking about post-catastrophe. This is all a setup for that. With no catastrophe, the powers that be would be happy with the status quo. They are planning for the future.

They don't want to hole up in a bunker and then come out and work for themselves. They want to hole up in a bunker and then come out and rule the fuckin' world. What fuckin' words don't you understand?

Honestly, the stupidity of people on this site is frustrating.

I get that feeling too.

I know! Isn't it obvious that whenever the catastrophe comes we'll forget how to harness electricity and we'll never have it again. We'll forget how to make energy from coal, from steam, from water, from wind, from the earth, all of it. And all the airplanes that can easily drop the nukes will disappear too. And we'll also forget how to build them, not that it would matter because all the iron on the earth will be gone so we can never make steel again. We'll not only forget how to make computers, but also telephones! Plus, every single one of those that we have now will be eradicated.

Seriously though, I hate to break it to you, Prowler, but real life isn't like Mad Max. And I don't quite understand why you have a problem with crazy making tons of thread on every conspiracy he hears of, but when Xela makes one thread to genuinely discuss the serious implications of all the bullshit the theorists are spouting (heaven forbid we think about what they are saying), you tell him/her to shut the f*ck up.

Am I correct in assuming it has something to do with bias?

[Woodruff]

(Actually, I would argue that Germany is, but that's for another discussion...)

I beg to differ, while it is true that there has been a sort of "awakening" to the rampant surveillance and censorship laws that are being passed, a way to actually influence the legislation has yet to be found.

Certainly, you would know better than I. But when I lived there in 2002, I remember the "right to privacy" being EXTREMELY important to the citizenry there, thanks to how the Nazi's used "everybody spy on everybody else" so effectively. Is that no longer the case, or was I just not seeing what was there then?

[Woodruff]

Now, I believe you are missing the Pokeman re-runs. Run along.....

Funny you would say that, given that the odds are VERY good that I'm older than you, have experienced more of the world than you and am far more educated than you.

[jay_a2j]

So instead they would keep the USers and kill mostly everybody else?

I'm saying although nukes will be used, it won't be for purposes of population control. China, all by itself, will kill 1/3 of human population. That's like 2 billion people. The US would hardly be a scratch in that number.

[jay_a2j]

Now, I believe you are missing the Pokeman re-runs. Run along.....

Funny you would say that, given that the odds are VERY good that I'm older than you, have experienced more of the world than you and am far more educated than you.

Step up everyone and place your bets!

[HapSmo19]

Funny you would say that, given that the odds are VERY good that I'm older than you, have experienced more of the world than you and am far more educated than you.

This guy called and asked; "You too?"

[TheProwler]

But yet again, you are overlooking the obvious...these people are allegedly ALREADY IN CONTROL for the most part. Since they are evil masters and have put themselves in that position, we'll presume that they're NOT COMPLETELY STUPID. IF they are, in fact, NOT completely stupid, then WHY would they want to put themselves into a position where they would NOT BE in control, for the most part? None of you has cleared this up. Since you're talking about how stupid we are, perhaps you could give it a go?

First off, don't assume that I agree with everything others on "my side" of the argument say.

Here's your question: "WHY would they want to put themselves into a position where they would NOT BE in control, for the most part?"

They wouldn't. When did I say they would?

[Woodruff]

But yet again, you are overlooking the obvious...these people are allegedly ALREADY IN CONTROL for the most part. Since they are evil masters and have put themselves in that position, we'll presume that they're NOT COMPLETELY STUPID. IF they are, in fact, NOT completely stupid, then WHY would they want to put themselves into a position where they would NOT BE in control, for the most part? None of you has cleared this up. Since you're talking about how stupid we are, perhaps you could give it a go?

First off, don't assume that I agree with everything others on "my side" of the argument say.
Here's your question: "WHY would they want to put themselves into a position where they would NOT BE in control, for the most part?"
They wouldn't. When did I say they would?

The fact that you haven't even slightly attempted to counter their statements is why ANYONE would think you agree with them. Are you too afraid to point out the errors that your side is making? Or are you simply unable to?

[TheProwler]

I know! Isn't it obvious that whenever the catastrophe comes we'll forget how to harness electricity and we'll never have it again. We'll forget how to make energy from coal, from steam, from water, from wind, from the earth, all of it. And all the airplanes that can easily drop the nukes will disappear too. And we'll also forget how to build them, not that it would matter because all the iron on the earth will be gone so we can never make steel again. We'll not only forget how to make computers, but also telephones! Plus, every single one of those that we have now will be eradicated.

You have no idea how fragile specialization has made our ability to hold onto technology. If a blast of plasma rays bombard the Earth for a few days and fry the vast majority of our circuit boards and microprocessors, you'll learn. If a polar shift occurs and the vast majority of human life within 100 miles of all ocean coastlines is erased, you'll learn.

Seriously though, I hate to break it to you, Prowler, but real life isn't like Mad Max. And I don't quite understand why you have a problem with crazy making tons of thread on every conspiracy he hears of, but when Xela makes one thread to genuinely discuss the serious implications of all the bullshit the theorists are spouting (heaven forbid we think about what they are saying), you tell him/her to shut the f*ck up.

Capt.Crazy has proved that he is willing to listen to what others have to say. He actually addresses what they have to say. xelafuckhead doesn't. Plus I don't like whiny bitches that take pot shots at me when I'm not even involved in a thread. The guy's an asshole.

Am I correct in assuming it has something to do with bias?

Nope. I call it as I see it.

[TheProwler]

But yet again, you are overlooking the obvious...these people are allegedly ALREADY IN CONTROL for the most part. Since they are evil masters and have put themselves in that position, we'll presume that they're NOT COMPLETELY STUPID. IF they are, in fact, NOT completely stupid, then WHY would they want to put themselves into a position where they would NOT BE in control, for the most part? None of you has cleared this up. Since you're talking about how stupid we are, perhaps you could give it a go?

First off, don't assume that I agree with everything others on "my side" of the argument say.
Here's your question: "WHY would they want to put themselves into a position where they would NOT BE in control, for the most part?"
They wouldn't. When did I say they would?

The fact that you haven't even slightly attempted to counter their statements is why ANYONE would think you agree with them. Are you too afraid to point out the errors that your side is making? Or are you simply unable to?

You know what? I asked you a question. If you don't have enough manners to respond to my question, please refrain from asking me two new questions. I can only be overly polite for so long.

[xelabale]

I know! Isn't it obvious that whenever the catastrophe comes we'll forget how to harness electricity and we'll never have it again. We'll forget how to make energy from coal, from steam, from water, from wind, from the earth, all of it. And all the airplanes that can easily drop the nukes will disappear too. And we'll also forget how to build them, not that it would matter because all the iron on the earth will be gone so we can never make steel again. We'll not only forget how to make computers, but also telephones! Plus, every single one of those that we have now will be eradicated.

You have no idea how fragile specialization has made our ability to hold onto technology. If a blast of plasma rays bombard the Earth for a few days and fry the vast majority of our circuit boards and microprocessors, you'll learn. If a polar shift occurs and the vast majority of human life within 100 miles of all ocean coastlines is erased, you'll learn.

Yes, we'll learn how to make electricity from a few bits of copper wire and a magnet. It's gonna be tricky, but we'll do it . Seriously, if the people posting on the forums here were the only people left we could get society up and running again no problem - we have so much knowledge compared to 100 years ago. Obviously there'd be a shortage of women to go round, but if you asked nicely...

Seriously though, I hate to break it to you, Prowler, but real life isn't like Mad Max. And I don't quite understand why you have a problem with crazy making tons of thread on every conspiracy he hears of, but when Xela makes one thread to genuinely discuss the serious implications of all the bullshit the theorists are spouting (heaven forbid we think about what they are saying), you tell him/her to shut the f*ck up.

Capt.Crazy has proved that he is willing to listen to what others have to say. He actually addresses what they have to say. xelafuckhead doesn't. Plus I don't like whiny bitches that take pot shots at me when I'm not even involved in a thread. The guy's an asshole.

This was my post - doesn't mention you prowler, you're not involved. You came into this thread all by yourself, be a man and stand up - and stop whining and bitching about it. It was addressed to captain.c - but I guess that could be confusing?

So if captain c's cogent well-thought out theories are true, as all the evidence points to, I have a question: Why?

Why do "they" want a NWO, it seems like such hard work. Admittedly I'm a bit lazy, but I don't get it. I mean, these guys are already powerful and rich enough to decide the next president (ask cap'n c for proof), what more do they want? I'd've thought they were pretty happy with the current world order, seeing as they're at the top of it. Surely a shake up might end up with plebs like us at the top instead.

If anyone out there is part of the NWO could you enlighten me as to what it is you're after. Personally I'd be quite happy to just let you have it, it might save a bit of hassle all round, but I don't know what it is you want!

I listen to c.c. i ask him for proof, he has none except Alex Jones says so. So why should i believe him? Why should I accept his idea of reality over mine? If he had anything convincing I would consider it. Instead he spams up my turtle soup with thread after thread of unproven, ill-thought-out, patently ridiculous half-baked theories that add up to a scary bedtime story. Ridiculous. The only answer I get when i challenge any view of his is "You're conditioned not to see it" "the end is nigh" "they're coming to get you". Why are there no proofs, why is there no substance to any of his claims?

The answer is, he doesn't want there to be, he doesn't care. He is trolling and spamming.

Am I correct in assuming it has something to do with bias?

Nope. I call it as I see it.

And you shall be judged accordingly.

[thegreekdog]

I have a pretty relevant question - how do small arms do, generally speaking, against nuclear weapons? Because, frankly, if the NWO uses nuclear weapons, I'm not quite sure how my hypothetical handgun is going to counter said nuclear weapons. Further, if the NWO uses some sort of biological threat and holes up in some underground bunker, will it matter if we all had firearms?

I guess my point is, your insistence that we be well-armed may have good intentions, but will it truly be effective?

Holy shit man, use your fuckin' head.

After immense global destruction, nuclear weapons will not function. Do you think you can launch a missile without electricity?

When your enemies (the people you want to control) are living 1 mile away from you, do you think nuking them is a good idea?

I am talking about post-catastrophe. This is all a setup for that. With no catastrophe, the powers that be would be happy with the status quo. They are planning for the future.

They don't want to hole up in a bunker and then come out and work for themselves. They want to hole up in a bunker and then come out and rule the fuckin' world. What fuckin' words don't you understand?

Honestly, the stupidity of people on this site is frustrating.

One further line of questions, and one comment for you Prowler:

(1) You say "after immense global destruction" - how is that going to be carried out exactly? Further, how does one survive the immense global destruction (since it is both immense and global?

(2) I agree, the stupidity of people on this site is indeed frustrating.

[PLAYER57832]

I know! Isn't it obvious that whenever the catastrophe comes we'll forget how to harness electricity and we'll never have it again. We'll forget how to make energy from coal, from steam, from water, from wind, from the earth, all of it. And all the airplanes that can easily drop the nukes will disappear too. And we'll also forget how to build them, not that it would matter because all the iron on the earth will be gone so we can never make steel again. We'll not only forget how to make computers, but also telephones! Plus, every single one of those that we have now will be eradicated.

Seriously though, I hate to break it to you, Prowler, but real life isn't like Mad Max. And I don't quite understand why you have a problem with crazy making tons of thread on every conspiracy he hears of, but when Xela makes one thread to genuinely discuss the serious implications of all the bullshit the theorists are spouting (heaven forbid we think about what they are saying), you tell him/her to shut the f*ck up.

Am I correct in assuming it has something to do with bias?

Picked up this thread mid way, but did you know this is sort of happening right now?

Science is already so complicated that no one person can possibly understand any but a piece of it. Talk to your average high schooler from a few years ago (our granparents or parent's generation) and they knew a fair amount about a variety of things. Ask the kids today, and .. while some are quite educated, a lot can tell you all about their favorit pop stars, TV sitcom plots, but have no real idea where their electricity comes from, what a Food Web is or how their own food is produced. They may know of a few endangered species, but don't understand what's wrong with releasing the minnows they got at the bait store into the local creek, or why they need to watch the chemicals they put on their lawn.

[PLAYER57832]

So instead they would keep the USers and kill mostly everybody else?

I'm saying although nukes will be used, it won't be for purposes of population control. China, all by itself, will kill 1/3 of human population. That's like 2 billion people. The US would hardly be a scratch in that number.

I see, so you think China does not realize that doing this would not only kill most of their population, make the world in general rather nasty, but also would kill their prime customers?

Or do you think the Chinese leadership is the real diabolical head of this new world order someone mentioned earlier?

[TheProwler]

Yes, we'll learn how to make electricity from a few bits of copper wire and a magnet. It's gonna be tricky, but we'll do it . Seriously, if the people posting on the forums here were the only people left we could get society up and running again no problem - we have so much knowledge compared to 100 years ago. Obviously there'd be a shortage of women to go round, but if you asked nicely...

You are naive.

No electricity.

That means no running water
...no natural gas
...no sewage
...no grocery store
...no modern transportation
...no long range communication
etc.

You are out of your tree if you think the people here on CC could rebuild the power grid. Especially among with the chaotic fight for survival that would take place within weeks.

The Lord of the Flies.

You do not understand human nature.

This was my post - doesn't mention you prowler, you're not involved. You came into this thread all by yourself, be a man and stand up - and stop whining and bitching about it. It was addressed to captain.c - but I guess that could be confusing?

If you want a little private chat, use the private messages. You posted in a public forum. "addressed to captain.c" Hahaha! Bullshit! You actually asked for "members of the NWO" to post.

Hahahahahahaha!!! It looks like you're the one who's confused.

I listen to c.c. i ask him for proof, he has none except Alex Jones says so. So why should i believe him? Why should I accept his idea of reality over mine? If he had anything convincing I would consider it. Instead he spams up my turtle soup with thread after thread of unproven, ill-thought-out, patently ridiculous half-baked theories that add up to a scary bedtime story. Ridiculous. The only answer I get when i challenge any view of his is "You're conditioned not to see it" "the end is nigh" "they're coming to get you". Why are there no proofs, why is there no substance to any of his claims?

The answer is, he doesn't want there to be, he doesn't care. He is trolling and spamming.

"Why should I accept his idea of reality over mine?"

That is just so funny. You sound scared. You are afraid that he's right.

Your ideas and thoughts parallel those that found OJ Simpson "Not Guilty".

Capt.Crazy is presenting an array of interrelated stories that need to be looked at as a whole. You decide to try to pick apart every idea one at a time. You look at any one thread, and you say "Based on that evidence, I'd say there is only a 5% chance that there are hidden agendas that put my future in danger. Capt.Crazy is a nut." And you do that for 10, 20, 30, 40, 50 threads. And you still don't get it that things are adding up.

Capt.Crazy is so far ahead of you in so many areas, and you spite him just because you can't understand what he knows. You have to change yourself first, and then read his posts. Until you open your mind, you will just keep being the confused little whiny bitch crying "Troll! Troll! Spam! Spam!" when you read his stuff.

So until you can better yourself, you should just avoid any of Capt.Crazy's threads. You'd be better of reading the newspaper. Go to the Sports section. I think that kind of reading would be a perfect fit for your current level of understanding and acceptance.

[TheProwler]

I have a pretty relevant question - how do small arms do, generally speaking, against nuclear weapons? Because, frankly, if the NWO uses nuclear weapons, I'm not quite sure how my hypothetical handgun is going to counter said nuclear weapons. Further, if the NWO uses some sort of biological threat and holes up in some underground bunker, will it matter if we all had firearms?

I guess my point is, your insistence that we be well-armed may have good intentions, but will it truly be effective?

Holy shit man, use your fuckin' head.

After immense global destruction, nuclear weapons will not function. Do you think you can launch a missile without electricity?

When your enemies (the people you want to control) are living 1 mile away from you, do you think nuking them is a good idea?

I am talking about post-catastrophe. This is all a setup for that. With no catastrophe, the powers that be would be happy with the status quo. They are planning for the future.

They don't want to hole up in a bunker and then come out and work for themselves. They want to hole up in a bunker and then come out and rule the fuckin' world. What fuckin' words don't you understand?

Honestly, the stupidity of people on this site is frustrating.

One further line of questions, and one comment for you Prowler:

(1) You say "after immense global destruction" - how is that going to be carried out exactly? Further, how does one survive the immense global destruction (since it is both immense and global?

(2) I agree, the stupidity of people on this site is indeed frustrating.

Hahaha!

So, given your avoidance of the topic, I take it you concede that your idea about nukes ruling the world after disasters was stupid? Be a big person and type it out loud next time.

It's funny how so many people here ask a question, hoping for a certain answer. And when they are enlightened with the correct answer (one that differed from their incorrect answer), they just ignore that it was ever asked. Yeah, carry on, nobody will notice that you were way off base.

I notice.

1) Learn to use the Web for research. Frickin' lazy dick.

http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2009/29may_noaaprediction.htm

Google 2012

Google Polar Shift

And it might not be natural disasters. Google EMP Weaponry.

2) Yeah, like some idiots who want to get wrapped up in defining phrases like "immense and global" instead of focusing on the important issues.

[TheProwler]

I know! Isn't it obvious that whenever the catastrophe comes we'll forget how to harness electricity and we'll never have it again. We'll forget how to make energy from coal, from steam, from water, from wind, from the earth, all of it. And all the airplanes that can easily drop the nukes will disappear too. And we'll also forget how to build them, not that it would matter because all the iron on the earth will be gone so we can never make steel again. We'll not only forget how to make computers, but also telephones! Plus, every single one of those that we have now will be eradicated.

Seriously though, I hate to break it to you, Prowler, but real life isn't like Mad Max. And I don't quite understand why you have a problem with crazy making tons of thread on every conspiracy he hears of, but when Xela makes one thread to genuinely discuss the serious implications of all the bullshit the theorists are spouting (heaven forbid we think about what they are saying), you tell him/her to shut the f*ck up.

Am I correct in assuming it has something to do with bias?

Picked up this thread mid way, but did you know this is sort of happening right now?

Science is already so complicated that no one person can possibly understand any but a piece of it. Talk to your average high schooler from a few years ago (our granparents or parent's generation) and they knew a fair amount about a variety of things. Ask the kids today, and .. while some are quite educated, a lot can tell you all about their favorit pop stars, TV sitcom plots, but have no real idea where their electricity comes from, what a Food Web is or how their own food is produced. They may know of a few endangered species, but don't understand what's wrong with releasing the minnows they got at the bait store into the local creek, or why they need to watch the chemicals they put on their lawn.

I agree Player. Specialization.

Things are just too complicated. So we have found that the way to advance is to narrow the scope of knowledge of people. We have experts in very narrow fields of knowledge.

There needs to be a coordinated and cooperative effort to bring these people together to produce anything technologically advanced.

People are failing to understand that we depend on a wide variety of technologies to bring about this coordinated and cooperative effort. Knock out the electricity for a few months, and watch how useless we are without it. And toss in a polar shift to kill about 90% of the population and destroy most of our equipment for good measures.

Seriously, there is no need to prepare for something like that. Unless you want to survive.

[thegreekdog]

[quote="TheProwler]Hahaha!

So, given your avoidance of the topic, I take it you concede that your idea about nukes ruling the world after disasters was stupid? Be a big person and type it out loud next time.

It's funny how so many people here ask a question, hoping for a certain answer. And when they are enlightened with the correct answer (one that differed from their incorrect answer), they just ignore that it was ever asked. Yeah, carry on, nobody will notice that you were way off base.

2) Yeah, like some idiots who want to get wrapped up in defining phrases like "immense and global" instead of focusing on the important issues.[/quote]

Okay, so, I think I understand now. The NWO won't seize control via the use of nuclear weapons. They will have control after some big natural disaster? Is that right?

Oh, by the way, it appears that you cannot read, so this may fall on blind eyes, but I would like to point out to you that I was asking whether the NWO would take "control" via the use of nuclear weapons. I was not, as you seem to think, indicating that the NWO would use nuclear weapons post-[insert apocalyptic event]. Apparently, you (and others) seem to think you will surive the [insert apocalyptic event] and, upon surviving, will wake up the next morning with your guns and realize that you have the will and the power to fight the dreaded NWO (an organization that you coudn't stop from dropping the EMP or causing the [insert apocalyptic event]. "Hey, we couldn't stop you from unleashing an apocalypse, but how do you like this 45 I'm carrying?"

It's funny here, how so many people refuse to answer questions that they have no answer to. And when they realize they have no answer to the question, they provide a different answer to a different question and then call the original asker stupid to avoid having to admit that they have no idea what they are talking about. But, yeah, carry on, no one will realize you're mildly insane. Whee, this is fun!