PKeough and Saxitoxin [Cleared]

[colton24]

yeah this one right here from chat 2009-07-11 21:29:17 - saxitoxin: In fact, I'll go so far as to say anyone who retaliates against one of my attacks I'll respond by suiciding themself against them

[PatriceB]

The chain of events went as follows.

PKeough mentioned that he was in the middle and followed by saying that the first person to attack him would receive "the full brunt" of his force.

I then pointed out that this could be considered suicide, as it would almost certainly guarantee that the third person would win.

Pkeough defended his statement by saying that it was right since it guaranteed his survival.

Saxitoxin said that in his opinion any style of play that brings victory was fair and right, and also made his statement which is potentially defensible based on the words. However, he then went with "let me at him," and moved his entire army to my borders with PKeough's agreement and assistance.

At this point I decided that I had no chance now that it appeared that both were bent on wiping me out, and I attacked with everything that I had.

Th threats of suiciding by both, as well as the actions taken, constitute in my mind suiciding and it is detrimental to the spirit of the game.

As such, I request that these two players be dealt with as per the rights retained by the moderators of Conquerclub.


Saxitoxin: Yes, a foe is only a friend who one knows not enough. As a matter of fact, everyone in the world has something that can be loved and appreciated about them. Some people are better matches than others, and the friendships of some is not worth the effort to create said friendships. Unfortunately, I see no reason why I should put any effort into befriending you, so I will put my effort into more agreeable individuals.

[saxitoxin]

The chain of events went as follows.

PKeough mentioned that he was in the middle and followed by saying that the first person to attack him would receive "the full brunt" of his force.

I then pointed out that this could be considered suicide, as it would almost certainly guarantee that the third person would win.

Pkeough defended his statement by saying that it was right since it guaranteed his survival.

Saxitoxin said that in his opinion any style of play that brings victory was fair and right, and also made his statement which is potentially defensible based on the words. However, he then went with "let me at him," and moved his entire army to my borders with PKeough's agreement and assistance.

At this point I decided that I had no chance now that it appeared that both were bent on wiping me out, and I attacked with everything that I had.

Th threats of suiciding by both, as well as the actions taken, constitute in my mind suiciding and it is detrimental to the spirit of the game.

As such, I request that these two players be dealt with as per the rights retained by the moderators of Conquerclub.


Saxitoxin: Yes, a foe is only a friend who one knows not enough. As a matter of fact, everyone in the world has something that can be loved and appreciated about them. Some people are better matches than others, and the friendships of some is not worth the effort to create said friendships. Unfortunately, I see no reason why I should put any effort into befriending you, so I will put my effort into more agreeable individuals.

Patrice - I have already dismissed your accusation. Your case against me rests on this one comment:

saxitoxin: In fact, I'll go so far as to say anyone who retaliates against one of my attacks I'll respond by suiciding themself against them

which is not a threat of suicide. Again, suiciding "themself" against "them" is not a threat of suicide. I really regret you don't understand that.

To your second point:

However, he then went with "let me at him," and moved his entire army to my borders with PKeough's agreement and assistance.

This game involves attacking other players with computer-generated "armies" at times when the greatest tactical advantage exists. Sometimes players form alliances which, if done publicly and in the English language, is allowed.

I'm sorry you lost the game and feel such intensely hard feelings about it. If you object to having your troops attacked in the game, perhaps a different game - like Connect-4 or Monopoly - would be more enjoyable?

[oVo]

"In a game I played, both threatened to suicide into whoever attacked them. When I protested at that reasoning, both took action in support of their threats despite my having not attacked." Waaa!
This is the cheating & Abuse forum and you failed to accuse either of these players of violating any rules or site policies. You obviously foed them, now rate them appropriately and be done with it.

[colton24]

In a game I played, both threatened to suicide into whoever attacked them. When I protested at that reasoning, both took action in support of their threats despite my having not attacked. Waaa!
This is the cheating & Abuse forum and you failed to accuse either of these players of violating any rules or site policies. You obviously foed them, now rate them appropriately and be done with it.

DUDE WHOA WATCH THE HUGE FONTS

[PKeough]

Woodruff, you quote Strife's comment about yourself...you are sad and pathetic, and nothing you say in this thread will help PatriceB's case, or refute the fact that you are annoying, meddlesome, lonely, and...again...pathetic. Strife, the same thing could be said about you. No one invited you two to throw in your 2 cents here. And although you are technically capable of it, it still makes no impact whatsoever. oVo's comment is completely correct. And if you go by what action was taken in the game in question, instead of what was said, the only suicider was PatriceB. He lost the game, he didn't like the way we played it. He stomped his feet, bit his pillow, yelled at his mom from the basement, then decided that he will get his revenge upon us by writing a report. It's over, this complaint is going nowhere, PatriceB STILL has lost the game, and Woodruff and Strife have done nothing bet reaffirm their status as lookyloo's and fellow tattlers. Saxitoxin and I receive nothing but delight and entertainment from this entirely, hilariously, pathetic display of whining. Waaaaaaaaaa about sums it up.

[Strife]

Woodruff, you quote Strife's comment about yourself...you are sad and pathetic, and nothing you say in this thread will help PatriceB's case, or refute the fact that you are annoying, meddlesome, lonely, and...again...pathetic. Strife, the same thing could be said about you. No one invited you two to throw in your 2 cents here. And although you are technically capable of it, it still makes no impact whatsoever. oVo's comment is completely correct. And if you go by what action was taken in the game in question, instead of what was said, the only suicider was PatriceB. He lost the game, he didn't like the way we played it. He stomped his feet, bit his pillow, yelled at his mom from the basement, then decided that he will get his revenge upon us by writing a report. It's over, this complaint is going nowhere, PatriceB STILL has lost the game, and Woodruff and Strife have done nothing bet reaffirm their status as lookyloo's and fellow tattlers. Saxitoxin and I receive nothing but delight and entertainment from this entirely, hilariously, pathetic display of whining. Waaaaaaaaaa about sums it up.

Thanks for summing you entire post up in that last sentence, glad I didn't have to read all that.

[Woodruff]

Woodruff, you quote Strife's comment about yourself.

It's in my signature because it's frankly hilarious. You don't find it funny that he's "defending my honor" by explaining how I'm "usually" better than his urine? Good lord, I start laughing every time I think about it.

..you are sad and pathetic, and nothing you say in this thread will help PatriceB's case, or refute the fact that you are annoying, meddlesome, lonely, and...again...pathetic.

Wow...where did this come from? Feeling a little vitriolic?

Strife, the same thing could be said about you. No one invited you two to throw in your 2 cents here.

In fact, they did...by opening the case in this public forum. If they didn't want others to comment on it, they would have submitted it via an e-ticket, which is also a valid form of submitting a C&A complaint.

and Woodruff and Strife have done nothing bet reaffirm their status as lookyloo's and fellow tattlers. Saxitoxin and I receive nothing but delight and entertainment from this entirely, hilariously, pathetic display of whining. Waaaaaaaaaa about sums it up.

Yes, that really DOES sum up what you're doing here...though I'm not sure why you're wanting to display it so clearly. Now, perhaps you can point out exactly what I've done in this thread to deserve this attack on me? Just because I commented and wasn't "solidly on your side" I guess? I just went and looked through the thread again, and I just don't see anything worth this.

[lancehoch]

Suiciding is not against the rules of CC because it is hard to find a commonly agreed upon definition and some of the time what one person sees as someone suicding is what someone else saw as an opportunity that ran out of steam.

PKeough and saxitoxin are Cleared of the alleged abuse relating to this thread.

[PKeough]

Woodruff, Strife, and most of all...PatriceB - start crying! hahahahahahahahha congrats Saxitoxin!

[008MM]

pkeough has been rude from day one and ignorant to others has lied and cheated and all around sneaky i had the pleasure to play him once and still he treis to have other players come find my games and screw them up any way they can hes a little kid with some serious issues about growing up to be an adult he will find out in the real world that just because he hides behind locked doors hideing in the dark with his computer .. witch if you ask me? was a bad mistake on his parants behalf to buy him . now he is like a virus infecting honest peoples games with stupid comments underhanded tricks and like most cyber bullies will soon be obsoulet they need to be unplugged and left to play by them selves I know they can play with lego ? i wasnt shocked to see all these complaints about Pkenough he and his band of lil fools have no real back bone just the locked door they hide behind my best answer to those still trying to talk to him about there problem with him is wasted on them go to the top and put a stop to his and others like him from ruining you enjoyment of your games let him play in the school play ground where he belongs thank you
calls every one bad names like a scared cyber bully he is

too bad so sad some apples were just grown bad!

[PKeough]

Hey 008MM, who is following who? And by the way...try using commas, periods, and various other forms of punctuation. Or someone might think you were a stupid little child...

[Woodruff]

Woodruff, Strife, and most of all...PatriceB - start crying! hahahahahahahahha congrats Saxitoxin!

Why would I be crying? I couldn't care one way or another whether you and saxitoxin were found cleared or busted. What exactly gives you the impression that I do care? Please be specific, because I'm honestly curious.

[saxitoxin]

Woodruff, Strife, and most of all...PatriceB - start crying! hahahahahahahahha congrats Saxitoxin!

Why would I be crying? I couldn't care one way or another whether you and saxitoxin were found cleared or busted. What exactly gives you the impression that I do care? Please be specific, because I'm honestly curious.

Perhaps the fact that just over 20% of the posts in a thread that had nothing to do with you were written by you? Just a guess.

[Darwins_Bane]

Woodruff, Strife, and most of all...PatriceB - start crying! hahahahahahahahha congrats Saxitoxin!

Why would I be crying? I couldn't care one way or another whether you and saxitoxin were found cleared or busted. What exactly gives you the impression that I do care? Please be specific, because I'm honestly curious.

Perhaps the fact that just over 20% of the posts in a thread that had nothing to do with you were written by you? Just a guess.

If it is a public forum then why does it matter how many of the posts were whose. The whole point of posting the thread in C&A instead of via e-ticket is to allow others from the community to voice their insight into the matter at hand. Infer what you will from the amount of posts each person made. In the end the result is usually dictated by the means used to get there.

[Woodruff]

Woodruff, Strife, and most of all...PatriceB - start crying! hahahahahahahahha congrats Saxitoxin!

Why would I be crying? I couldn't care one way or another whether you and saxitoxin were found cleared or busted. What exactly gives you the impression that I do care? Please be specific, because I'm honestly curious.

Perhaps the fact that just over 20% of the posts in a thread that had nothing to do with you were written by you? Just a guess.

You weren't specific enough regarding why I would care whether the two of you were cleared or busted. Which of my posts in this thread gave you the impression that I cared whether you were busted or cleared? Please be more specific, because I'm honestly curious. Thanks!

[saxitoxin]

You weren't specific enough regarding why I would care nor framed the X/Y axis in coordination with the rise of the moon to determine my exact mindset at the blah blah blabbedy blah ...

*yawn*

[Strife]

How 'bout, it's cleared, and we just let this topic die?

[Woodruff]

You weren't specific enough regarding why I would care nor framed the X/Y axis in coordination with the rise of the moon to determine my exact mindset at the blah blah blabbedy blah ...

*yawn*

Yeah, I didn't think you could either. Thanks!

[saxitoxin]

You weren't specific enough regarding why I would care nor framed the X/Y axis in coordination with the rise of the moon to determine my exact mindset at the blah blah blabbedy blah ...

*yawn*

Yeah, I didn't think you could either. Thanks!

Woodruff - I remind you, you have already been cautioned once about provoking me. If necessary I will request a second caution. Please choose to conduct yourself in a more mature manner and stop baiting.

After the nastiness of the last few days we're trying to put things back together around here. Let's both try to start a fresh page. I want to be part of the solution. Do you?

Thank You,
STX