supercram wrote:are you guys absolutely sure it's not just his poor english? no offense wisse.
if you guys want me to finish this i will. i'm a dead man anyway
I don't know Cram. I was just wrestling with this myself. Could it just be a communications issue?
The thing is though.. he jumped on the first vote bandwagon (second vote), he jumped on my mini-bandwagon (second vote) and was conspicuously absent from RD's vote - the only one we got right.
He really is not giving us much to go on. and he is posting, A LOT - and saying nothing of substance. Maybe it's that whole nail cutting operation thing.. I know when I cut my nails, I am incoherent for days........
supercram wrote:are you guys absolutely sure it's not just his poor english? no offense wisse.
No, I'm not sure. But it seems like the case against wisse is incrementally better than your case against houssam, so there ya go.
But you're right, we still haven't heard from everyone (like RK), but I don't know quite what to do about that. Wisse seems like a decent shot at a bust, and what's RK gonna do, post 'hey I'm a mafia'? Wisse gets lynched, we find out if we're right or if we're dipshits, and then we reconvene tomorrow morning and see where we're at. Vote stays.
supercram wrote:are you guys absolutely sure it's not just his poor english? no offense wisse.
if you guys want me to finish this i will. i'm a dead man anyway
srry for my english i can't do a thing about it.
i am better in english than other people of my age in my country (i am 16)
much better, that is because i do much on my computer and 80% of that is english (the other 20% is dutch) like watching english movies playing english games etc.
HoussamTheGreat wrote:He really is not giving us much to go on. and he is posting, A LOT - and saying nothing of substance. Maybe it's that whole nail cutting operation thing.. I know when I cut my nails, I am incoherent for days........
That's the thing... it's the appearance of participation without the attendant substance.
Wisse wrote:srry for my english i can't do a thing about it. i am better in english than other people of my age in my country (i am 16) much better, that is because i do much on my computer and 80% of that is english (the other 20% is dutch) like watching english movies playing english games etc.
fwiw, your english is pretty good. I sure couldn't play this game in dutch.
But next time, you might want to bring your old Twilight Princess avatar back. The 'I'm a tiger' thing is offputting. I read your posts and I keep hearing the voice of Edward from 'Cowboy Bebop'.
supercram wrote:wisse, is there anyone here who can testify to your innocence? do you have anything to offer in your defense that could make me believe you?
unvote wisse until we get an answer to this, to prevent a mafia hijack of the vote.
for dummies wrote:people come on this thread is dying and nothing is happening. we can't really know if mafia or town is winning but for now we have to assume mafia is. i want to hear houssam defend himself and then will have some suspicion. we can't let this go to waste though or else we are all toast
Something to consider (perhaps 'tomorrow'): this is pretty much FD's sum total contribution thus far. We've been giving RK a hard time for not posting, but this bloke is equally guilty. Not necessarily a mafia indicator, but I'd like to hear more of substance. At least pretend like he's following along.
supercram wrote:wisse, is there anyone here who can testify to your innocence? do you have anything to offer in your defense that could make me believe you?
OK.. the dude has gone waaaaaay quiet suddenly, and I have to go for about 2 hours, and don't want to hold you up. so here is my vote again. Crammy sweetie, feel free to finish this whenever you see fit.
I've been checking things out here, and I have to suspect that RK does have a power role. Wether it's pro-mafia or pro-town is unknown. But because we did wait a long time for day to start, I'm suspecting he does have a power role of some sort.
It's hard for me to pinpoint who I think is mafia (I'm being a little rushed at the moment so I can't think everything through), but wisse has been acting suspicious. Correct me if I'm wrong here, but he has voted for MB twice.
I'm not going to vote Wisse yet and this is my reason why.
Sure, Wisse is acting suspicious. But what about this. If Wisse wanted MB dead, wouldn't he have killed MB at night?
vgmmaster wrote:Sure, Wisse is acting suspicious. But what about this. If Wisse wanted MB dead, wouldn't he have killed MB at night?
Remember, they only get one kill - and they had the cop right there - Makes sense to have chosen senfive, no? Just like we are probably going to lose Cram next - not MB since he has double voting, and with the dwindling numbers, this could be very important.
vgmmaster wrote:Sure, Wisse is acting suspicious. But what about this. If Wisse wanted MB dead, wouldn't he have killed MB at night?
Remember, they only get one kill - and they had the cop right there - Makes sense to have chosen senfive, no? Just like we are probably going to lose Cram next - not MB since he has double voting, and with the dwindling numbers, this could be very important.
I understand that, but why wouldn't he have killed MB earlier? This wasn't the first time he voted for him to my knowledge.
vgmmaster wrote:Sure, Wisse is acting suspicious. But what about this. If Wisse wanted MB dead, wouldn't he have killed MB at night?
Remember, they only get one kill - and they had the cop right there - Makes sense to have chosen senfive, no? Just like we are probably going to lose Cram next - not MB since he has double voting, and with the dwindling numbers, this could be very important.
I understand that, but why wouldn't he have killed MB earlier? This wasn't the first time he voted for him to my knowledge.
That's actually a pretty good point, but you're assuming that wisse was the one calling the shots... could be, I guess, but doesn't seem super likely.
vgmmaster wrote:Sure, Wisse is acting suspicious. But what about this. If Wisse wanted MB dead, wouldn't he have killed MB at night?
Remember, they only get one kill - and they had the cop right there - Makes sense to have chosen senfive, no? Just like we are probably going to lose Cram next - not MB since he has double voting, and with the dwindling numbers, this could be very important.
I understand that, but why wouldn't he have killed MB earlier? This wasn't the first time he voted for him to my knowledge.
That's actually a pretty good point, but you're assuming that wisse was the one calling the shots... could be, I guess, but doesn't seem super likely.
True. What would be the chance that he knew who all the experienced players were unless he read previous mafia games.
Because of that,
VOTE: Wisse
I'd wait to make this vote, but I have to leave very soon. I just hope that my haste doesn't cause us to lose the game.
i can only find 1 thing why you all vote on me...
and thats this
Master Bush wrote:I would love a link or a page of where all this took place.
Wisse is keeping me alive, cause I made the mistake of clearing his name on day 1. He didn't vote RD and has pushed for trestain since I revealed his code about the doctor. I believe in my heart of hearts wisse is mafia.
why if i already voted on him, wouldn't i take him down? if i were the mafia i did it long ago, but well i am not so...
i have already explaind why i didn't vote on rd
and i also explaind why i voted twice on trestain go look for yourself
i don't have more to say
Battles are won by slaughter and manoeuvre. The greater the general, the more he contributes in manoeuvre, the less he demands in slaughter.
Winston Churchill