Everything BUT marriage

[bedub1]

Washington legislature passed an "everything but marriage" law for gay's. It was put up to a vote yesterday, and passed. Which I agree with. The conservative groups lobbied against it saying "it's just a stepping stone to them wanting marriage" whereas the liberal groups said "all we want is equal rights, this isn't a stepping stone". Immediately after it passed, the first thing out of the gays mouths was "now it's on to marriage!".

If a "marriage" one comes up I'm going to vote against it, and now wished I had voted against this one. The reason being, is they are lying sacks of shit, so f*ck them.

[2dimes]

Washington's allway been full of liers, I don't see what you're so huffy about.

[AAFitz]

Washington legislature passed an "everything but marriage" law for gay's. It was put up to a vote yesterday, and passed. Which I agree with. The conservative groups lobbied against it saying "it's just a stepping stone to them wanting marriage" whereas the liberal groups said "all we want is equal rights, this isn't a stepping stone". Immediately after it passed, the first thing out of the gays mouths was "now it's on to marriage!".

If a "marriage" one comes up I'm going to vote against it, and now wished I had voted against this one. The reason being, is they are lying sacks of shit, so f*ck them.

Gays lie, but heterosexuals dont?

I dont really understand why people fight so hard against equal rights for different groups. Its fairly clear that we will always aim to make "all men are created equal" an actuality in this country. It seems a waste of time to fight the inevitable, and arguably moral outcome.

[Timminz]

f*ck them

Please share more fantasies.

[2dimes]

*liars? Whatever.


As a married person i just can't remember why I wanted to do this but you're trying to cheat yourself trust me.

[Pvt. Stroker]

Why are so many people afraid of gay marriage?

[Snorri1234]

hehehehehe


"butt" marriage.

[PLAYER57832]

Washington legislature passed an "everything but marriage" law for gay's. It was put up to a vote yesterday, and passed. Which I agree with. The conservative groups lobbied against it saying "it's just a stepping stone to them wanting marriage" whereas the liberal groups said "all we want is equal rights, this isn't a stepping stone". Immediately after it passed, the first thing out of the gays mouths was "now it's on to marriage!".

If a "marriage" one comes up I'm going to vote against it, and now wished I had voted against this one. The reason being, is they are lying sacks of shit, so f*ck them.

As a Christian, I cannot honestly say I approve of homosexuality in general. But, I don't approve of a lot of things we tolerate in our society. Conservatives talk about an "agenda" and a "slide". You know the slide that worries me? Not the "slide" that says if two people with the same genitals happen to love each other they can share a life the same as others then somehow all of our kids will somehow be indoctrinated to believe its OK. I believe in my faith and teachings when it comes to my kids. What worries me is the slide that goes from "its wrong for them to be acknowledged" to... "its just wrong, let them exist in private" ... to "its wrong ... lets GET RID OF THEM!" And you know what, while I have NEVER seen any real indication of the first fear, despite attenting more than one church with semi-"closeted" (adults knew, most kids did not) homosexuals and even openly homosexual individuals, despite working with and even living with homosexuals (NOT in the same room!, but in bunkhouse type situations with males, females all together). I have seen PLENTY of indication that the last really happens.

If I had any doubts, they were erased when I myself, though definitely not homosexual, came up against blatant discrimination and abuse becuase a few idiots thought I was homosexual. Their reasoning? I worked in a non-traditional field, did not mind getting dirty when necessary (though I definitely cleaned up after work!!!) and did not have an obvious boyfriend in evidence... voila, I MUST be gay! This is the same kind of mentality that allows people to consider blacks or others as "inferior", that says people of this religion or that are not to be trusted ... etc.

WAKE UP! What we really need to fear is hatred. Hatred is what will hurt us all.

[Burrito]

Washington legislature passed an "everything but marriage" law for gay's. It was put up to a vote yesterday, and passed. Which I agree with. The conservative groups lobbied against it saying "it's just a stepping stone to them wanting marriage" whereas the liberal groups said "all we want is equal rights, this isn't a stepping stone". Immediately after it passed, the first thing out of the gays mouths was "now it's on to marriage!".

If a "marriage" one comes up I'm going to vote against it, and now wished I had voted against this one. The reason being, is they are lying sacks of shit, so f*ck them.

Errrmmm... It hasn't passed yet... votes are still being counted... I should know as I live in Washington...so.....

[Rustovitch]

Washington legislature passed an "everything but marriage" law for gay's. It was put up to a vote yesterday, and passed. Which I agree with. The conservative groups lobbied against it saying "it's just a stepping stone to them wanting marriage" whereas the liberal groups said "all we want is equal rights, this isn't a stepping stone". Immediately after it passed, the first thing out of the gays mouths was "now it's on to marriage!".

If a "marriage" one comes up I'm going to vote against it, and now wished I had voted against this one. The reason being, is they are lying sacks of shit, so f*ck them.

Homosexuals want and deserve equal treatment. It was a bit naive of you to think that they would be happy with half measures, and once received they would not continue to press on for full rights.

Personally I think all laws regarding and regulating marriage should be abolished, reducing it to mere personal opinion and religious declarations. But allow for the use of civil partnerships that would grant some of the same legalities that marriage previously would.

[HapSmo19]

WAKE UP! What we really need to fear is hatred. Hatred is what will hurt us all.

Oh look, the rallying cry of the retarded.

[PLAYER57832]

WAKE UP! What we really need to fear is hatred. Hatred is what will hurt us all.

Oh look, the rallying cry of the retarded.

MENSA does not seem to think so.

[Snorri1234]

WAKE UP! What we really need to fear is hatred. Hatred is what will hurt us all.

Oh look, the rallying cry of the retarded.

Oh look, the backwards reply of the mentally challenged.

[jay_a2j]

Washington legislature passed an "everything but marriage" law for gay's. It was put up to a vote yesterday, and passed. Which I agree with. The conservative groups lobbied against it saying "it's just a stepping stone to them wanting marriage" whereas the liberal groups said "all we want is equal rights, this isn't a stepping stone". Immediately after it passed, the first thing out of the gays mouths was "now it's on to marriage!".

If a "marriage" one comes up I'm going to vote against it, and now wished I had voted against this one. The reason being, is they are lying sacks of shit, so f*ck them.

Gays lie, but heterosexuals dont?

I dont really understand why people fight so hard against equal rights for different groups. Its fairly clear that we will always aim to make "all men are created equal" an actuality in this country. It seems a waste of time to fight the inevitable, and arguably moral outcome.

It's not about "equal rights" it's about special rights. A man or woman HAS the right to marry already..... to the OPPOSITE sex. Same sex marriage is a "special right". Marriage has held a traditional formula for thousands of years, man + woman = marriage. If same sex couples are allowed to marry it will open the floodgates. (and you liberals shut the hell up, once people obtain a "victory" they ALWAYS push the envelope to see how far they can go) So you will have Tom wanting to marry his sister, Joe wanting to marry his niece, and you know there is some freak out there who will want to marry his dog! And thus, the domino effect.


If it was about "rights", then EVERYTHING BUT MARRIAGE should satisfy that..... but no...


Sorry to my gay and lesbian friends you do not have the right to marry the same sex. Same as our illegal friends crossing the boarder don't have the "right" to be here.



But my prediction is.... all US States will eventually allow it. This is what happens when we distance ourselves from God and His ways. But there will be a price to pay.

[Rustovitch]

It's not about "equal rights" it's about special rights. A man or woman HAS the right to marry already..... to the OPPOSITE sex. Same sex marriage is a "special right". Marriage has held a traditional formula for thousands of years, man + woman = marriage. If same sex couples are allowed to marry it will open the floodgates. (and you liberals shut the hell up, once people obtain a "victory" they ALWAYS push the envelope to see how far they can go) So you will have Tom wanting to marry his sister, Joe wanting to marry his niece, and you know there is some freak out there who will want to marry his dog! And thus, the domino effect.

Do you find you walk into walls a lot and get stumped by the plot lines of sit-coms?

[Woodruff]

It's not about "equal rights" it's about special rights. A man or woman HAS the right to marry already..... to the OPPOSITE sex. Same sex marriage is a "special right".

Say WHAT? That has to be the most backwards, illogical, nonthinking thing I've ever seen posted. Seriously.

Marriage has held a traditional formula for thousands of years, man + woman = marriage. If same sex couples are allowed to marry it will open the floodgates.

"Open the floodgates" to WHAT?

So you will have Tom wanting to marry his sister, Joe wanting to marry his niece, and you know there is some freak out there who will want to marry his dog! And thus, the domino effect.

This doesn't even make basic sense. Stopping reproduction among close relatives has legal justification due to the problems the progeny are likely to have. Marriage to an animal would be stopped based on the fact that there couldn't be "consent" from the animal. Do you even think these things through before you say them?

If it was about "rights", then EVERYTHING BUT MARRIAGE should satisfy that.

Not even remotely, since currently homosexuals do NOT have VERY IMPORTANT rights that are encased within the concept of "marriage".

Sorry to my gay and lesbian friends you do not have the right to marry the same sex.

Not currently. Hopefully, this country will grow up and allow it soon, though.

But my prediction is.... all US States will eventually allow it. This is what happens when we distance ourselves from God and His ways. But there will be a price to pay.

Jesus would likely find your statements regarding homosexuals to be repugnant.

[Timminz]

Fuck you PLAYER! Hatred is the answer!

[AAFitz]

Sorry to my gay and lesbian friends you do not have the right to marry the same sex. Same as our illegal friends crossing the boarder don't have the "right" to be here.

This is what happens when we distance ourselves from God and His ways. But there will be a price to pay.

Well, with the second part, as relating to what youve written, Id say we agree fully.

[Snorri1234]

It's not about "equal rights" it's about special rights. A man or woman HAS the right to marry already..... to the OPPOSITE sex.

And you no doubt have any problem with getting the right to marry someone of the same sex, right?

Because surely if you're using the retarded argument that "HOMOS CAN MARRY STILL" there should be no reason to not expand that right and give heterosexuals the right to marry other heterosexuals of the same sex?

Or aren't you willing to concede that the mere 200 years your society has existed means they're not always absolutely right like angels descended from heaven and handed the damn foundations of everything to the founding fathers?

Same sex marriage is a "special right".

And normal marriage isn't?

Marriage has held a traditional formula for thousands of years, man + woman = marriage.

lol.
You sure you wanna discuss the thousands of years in which marriage has been unchanging and infallible?

If same sex couples are allowed to marry it will open the floodgates.

Yeah, if that happens any redblooded heterosexual male will want to marry his heterosexual male friends like crazy!

So you will have Tom wanting to marry his sister, Joe wanting to marry his niece, and you know there is some freak out there who will want to marry his dog! And thus, the domino effect.

Nah man, you want to say "slippery slope".

And it's bollocks. I know we over here are seriously considering marrying people to their pets like crazy, but that doesn't mean your country has to. If anything there is no reason to assume allowing gay-socialist-atheist-marriage leads to adopting other types of marriage. I mean, polygamy is about dudes wanting to marry several broads and from a legal perspective heterosexual marriage is actually closer to that.

Imagine that gay-marriage was the norm and we were talking about letting heterosexuals marry too. The argument that letting them have it would lead to them demanding they should be allowed to marry more women would actually be far more prevalent. It would even be more sensible. We allowed to have a dude marry some girl, why not allow him to marry some more girls? Instead of: we allowed some dude to marry another dude, why not allow him to marry more girls?

Sorry to my gay and lesbian friends you do not have the right to marry the same sex. Same as our illegal friends crossing the boarder don't have the "right" to be here.

Yay! Let's tie gay-marriage into illegal immigration! Is your mind some sort of fox-news machine that spits out random topics to be linked into one broadcast intended to scare people? GAY SEX MARRIAGE HYBRID CARS OBAMA GM MOTORS SOCIALISM GLENN I LOVE CRYING ON CAMERA BECK PLEASE BUY MY NEW BOOK OH NO IRAN IS BUYING NEW WEAPONS IRAQ STILL A SHITPILE YAY REPUBLICANS EXCEPT FOR THAT ONE OKAY MAYBE A FEW SENATORS WHO TURNED OUT TO BE TOTALLY NOT BEHIND THEIR OWN BULLSHIT LOL GLENN BECK WANTS TO CRY SOME MORE HEY O'REILLY WE HAVEN'T SEEN YOU IN AGES DOWN WITH VACCINES BECAUSE THE MAN IS HOLDING US DOWN!

But my prediction is.... all US States will eventually allow it. This is what happens when we distance ourselves from God and His ways. But there will be a price to pay.

Wake me up when that happens.

[Snorri1234]

Do you even think these things through before you say them?

I think I can answer for jay here and say "NO".



(I would add: "YOU GODLESS LIBERAL" but I'm pretty certain it wouldn't actually apply nor make any sense.)

[jay_a2j]

Fuck you PLAYER! Hatred is the answer!

Tim why are you so upset that you would misquote me? Is it because I don't believe that you and your "significant other" should be allowed to marry? Calm down, you will get what you desire in time I'm sure.

[lgoasklucyl]

It's not about "equal rights" it's about special rights. A man or woman HAS the right to marry already..... to the OPPOSITE sex. Same sex marriage is a "special right". Marriage has held a traditional formula for thousands of years, man + woman = marriage. If same sex couples are allowed to marry it will open the floodgates. (and you liberals shut the hell up, once people obtain a "victory" they ALWAYS push the envelope to see how far they can go) So you will have Tom wanting to marry his sister, Joe wanting to marry his niece, and you know there is some freak out there who will want to marry his dog! And thus, the domino effect.

Damn... Shame you weren't around when medical care was a "special right" for African Americans- they really could have used someone quite as insensitive as you to lobby on their side.

Oh... And perhaps if you take your head out of your religion/culture's and looked into cultures where they are ( ) accepting of marriages (yep- it happens outside of your religion/culture!) between same sex individuals. So, your 'thousands of years' comment is 100% moot due to your blatant cultural insensitivity. Though, I would expect nothing less from you.

[HapSmo19]

WAKE UP! What we really need to fear is hatred. Hatred is what will hurt us all.

Oh look, the rallying cry of the retarded.

MENSA does not seem to think so.

OK. From five minutes ago:

http://www.mensa.org/workout2.php

Your score was 23 out of 30. That is a very good score—you would have a good chance of passing the Mensa test.

What does that have to do with anything?

[Snorri1234]

Fuck you PLAYER! Hatred is the answer!

Tim why are you so upset that you would misquote me? Is it because I don't believe that you and your "significant other" should be allowed to marry? Calm down, you will get what you desire in time I'm sure.

So your response to people pointing out your ignorant and backwards views is ad hominem attacks?


Awesome.

[Woodruff]

It's not about "equal rights" it's about special rights. A man or woman HAS the right to marry already..... to the OPPOSITE sex.

And you no doubt have any problem with getting the right to marry someone of the same sex, right?

Because surely if you're using the retarded argument that "HOMOS CAN MARRY STILL" there should be no reason to not expand that right and give heterosexuals the right to marry other heterosexuals of the same sex?

Uh...that makes my brain hurt.

You sure you wanna discuss the thousands of years in which marriage has been unchanging and infallible?

That's definitely a losing argument for him.