European Union, soon to be superpower?

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Re: European Union, soon to be superpower?

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"Charlemagne's policy of "renovatio Romanorum imperii" (reviving the Roman Empire) remained at least in theory as the official position of the Empire until its end in 1806." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Roman_Empire

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Titanic wrote:"Charlemagne's policy of "renovatio Romanorum imperii" (reviving the Roman Empire) remained at least in theory as the official position of the Empire until its end in 1806." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Roman_Empire

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lol I love when these dumbass kids cite wikipedia.

Listen twerp, your shits out of context and you don't understand the medieval European view of Rome. Even if you were right, what you're posting now doesn't absolve you of your past stupidity.
Wouldn't the "revived Roman Empire" be the Holy Roman Empire in the late middle ages?
Here you thought that the HRE was anything like classical Rome and you implied it existed only in the late medieval ages.
I know that but it was called the Holy Roman Empire to try and revive the power and influence and history that the original Roman Empire had.
Here you claim the HRE attempted to mimic classical Rome.

Accept that your retarded posts made you look like an ass. You were called out on it and humiliated, so just learn not to do it again and move on :roll:
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BigBallinStalin wrote:Nope. With about 500 million people and 27 countries, they're a mighty economic powerhouse (combined: #1), but they have yet the political will to unite in order to extend the EU's power into external affairs.

By ceding the responsibility of Europe's defense to NATO, which is under the guidance of the US, they make themselves heavily reliant upon the United States.

Even though the EU now has an EU president and foreign minister, seeing that the EU president is Herman von Rompuy, Merkel and Sarkozy can easily tell him to shut up, since they represent the two most populated and most influential countries of the EU. The EU president may just be great for photo opportunities, and that's more or less it.

The EU also has no unified military, nor do its people generally want such a thing. The citizens of the EU lack the enthusiasm for any foreign military excursion, which in my opinion is a good moral reason, but it will definitely hinder the EU's ability to become more than just a voice.

The EU members do not yet have the will to become a strong, united player on the international scene. Its countries are too divided on foreign affairs, and those countries' military forces all have different agendas with no supreme unifying commander.
Did you know that petrol is getting more expensive and there's a recession, too?

seriously though, nobody would try to invade an eu country. thats when they would unite. unless it was france being invaded of course.
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frankiebee wrote: There are a lot of people who just don't want to be an 'European.'
We might live in Europe, but we feel ourself Dutch, German, French or Italian.
And what happens when you combine French people with Dutch people... yes.. You get people like the ones in belgium

Kind of like the US prior to The War Between the States when people thought of themselves as Virginians, Georgians, Texans, etc.....Then the federal government squashed all that.
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So, all we need are aliens to attack the EU and Ronald Reagan's theory will be put to the test:
September 21st, 1987:

Before the United Nations General Assembly: ” In our obsession with antagonisms of the moment,” said Reagan, “we often forget how much unites all the members of humanity. Perhaps we need some outside, universal threat to make us recognize this common bond. I occasionally think how quickly our differences worldwide would vanish if we were facing an alien threat from outside this world. And yet, I ask you,” he went on, “is not an alien threat already among us ? What could be more alien to universal aspirations of our peoples than war and the threat of war?”
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TeletubbyPrince wrote:
Titanic wrote:"Charlemagne's policy of "renovatio Romanorum imperii" (reviving the Roman Empire) remained at least in theory as the official position of the Empire until its end in 1806." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Roman_Empire

You were saying?
lol I love when these dumbass kids cite wikipedia.

Listen twerp, your shits out of context and you don't understand the medieval European view of Rome. Even if you were right, what you're posting now doesn't absolve you of your past stupidity.
Wouldn't the "revived Roman Empire" be the Holy Roman Empire in the late middle ages?
Here you thought that the HRE was anything like classical Rome and you implied it existed only in the late medieval ages.
I know that but it was called the Holy Roman Empire to try and revive the power and influence and history that the original Roman Empire had.
Here you claim the HRE attempted to mimic classical Rome.

Accept that your retarded posts made you look like an ass. You were called out on it and humiliated, so just learn not to do it again and move on :roll:
Do you type these things and then sit at your computer, rereading them and masturbating until your penis bleeds? That's the only explanation for your assishness. You, Tubster, are the pinnacle and shining example of what is wrong with the Internet.
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