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[muy_thaiguy]

Ryan Mathews may be the leading rusher on the team and in the Conference
but isn't the leading rusher in the nation and he did manage 144 yards today.

He averaged about 155 yds a game, I think it was.

[oVo]

Toby Gerhart of Stanford finished the regular season as the leading rusher.
1736 yards and 26 touchdowns against some very tough teams

[Woodruff]

Cowboys proved that the leading Rusher in the nation CAN be contained.

Does allowing 144 yards of rushing to one guy really fit the definition of "contained"?

(Great goal line stand and game by the Cowboys, however.)

[muy_thaiguy]

Cowboys proved that the leading Rusher in the nation CAN be contained.

Does allowing 144 yards of rushing to one guy really fit the definition of "contained"?

(Great goal line stand and game by the Cowboys, however.)

Considering BSU allowed well over 200, yes. Plus, he barely had more yards then UW's Alexander Alevester.

[Woodruff]

Cowboys proved that the leading Rusher in the nation CAN be contained.

Does allowing 144 yards of rushing to one guy really fit the definition of "contained"?

(Great goal line stand and game by the Cowboys, however.)

Considering BSU allowed well over 200, yes.

Interesting definition of "contained", you have there, but I will have to disagree with it.

For a benchmark of sorts, the MOST rushing yardage the Nebraska defense has given up all season was 116 yards. Now, the FIFTEEN yards of rushing they gave up to #12-ranked Virginia Tech and EIGHTEEN yards of rushing to #2-ranked Texas...that's "contained".

And it's not because Nebraska can't stop the pass. <smile>

[muy_thaiguy]

Cowboys proved that the leading Rusher in the nation CAN be contained.

Does allowing 144 yards of rushing to one guy really fit the definition of "contained"?

(Great goal line stand and game by the Cowboys, however.)

Considering BSU allowed well over 200, yes.

Interesting definition of "contained", you have there, but I will have to disagree with it. For a benchmark of sorts, the MOST rushing yardage the Nebraska defense has given up all season was 116 yards. And it's not because they can't stop the pass. <smile>

Though, it was lower then his season average, and the 1st OT stop was impressive. He was stopped 3 times in a row.

[Woodruff]

Cowboys proved that the leading Rusher in the nation CAN be contained.

Does allowing 144 yards of rushing to one guy really fit the definition of "contained"?

(Great goal line stand and game by the Cowboys, however.)

Considering BSU allowed well over 200, yes.

Interesting definition of "contained", you have there, but I will have to disagree with it. For a benchmark of sorts, the MOST rushing yardage the Nebraska defense has given up all season was 116 yards. And it's not because they can't stop the pass. <smile>

Though, it was lower then his season average, and the 1st OT stop was impressive. He was stopped 3 times in a row.

No argument at all on the goal line stand - that was very impressive.

For a benchmark of sorts, the MOST rushing yardage the Nebraska defense has given up all season was 116 yards. Now, the FIFTEEN yards of rushing they gave up to #12-ranked Virginia Tech and EIGHTEEN yards of rushing to #2-ranked Texas...that's "contained".

(Moved it down here because you fast-posted my edit. <grin>)

[muy_thaiguy]

Saw that. You do know that there ARE smilies that smile, right?

[strike wolf]

Gotta give it to Muy, his Cowboys are trying to make this interesting.

Trying? They converted THREE 4th downs on that final drive to tie the game
and send it into OVERTIME.

1 OT
Fresno State has a 1st & Goal at the Wyoming one yard line
and the Cowboy defense makes a goal line stand. Wow.

Oh snap... Wyoming has to settle for a 40 yard FG attempt
and misses it.

2 OT
WYOMING TOUCHDOWN!
Fresno State 4th and 5... fumbled and recovered by the Bulldogs... short of the marker.

Funnily enough they didn't have to settle for three they just were confident they could get the three and win it. It was smart play but didn't turn out quite the way they expected though no harm in the long run. very entertaining game. I think tht Wyoming would have actually run awy with it if it weren't for a few bad play calls and the fact that the offensive line hasn't figured out how to protect the QB.

Have to admire Wyoming's grit in that game.

[strike wolf]

Good goalline stand here too. Tough call on the 4th down...

I can't remember which down but there was one before the 4th down tht was closer to breaking the plane. there was no doubt in my mind tht the ydidn't get it on 4th.

[strike wolf]

I'm also not sure if the logic of going for 4th and goal on the 1 really applies to the same extent in overtime. There's no pinning them down on their own 1 and there's about as many things that can go wrong on the play as right...I think I would have actully kicked the field goal and forced Wyoming to create a touchdown to win it...

[muy_thaiguy]

I'm also not sure if the logic of going for 4th and goal on the 1 really applies to the same extent in overtime. There's no pinning them down on their own 1 and there's about as many things that can go wrong on the play as right...I think I would have actully kicked the field goal and forced Wyoming to create a touchdown to win it...

Which we did anyways.

[Woodruff]

You do know that there ARE smilies that smile, right?

Yeah. I'm old school. <smile>

[Woodruff]

I'm also not sure if the logic of going for 4th and goal on the 1 really applies to the same extent in overtime. There's no pinning them down on their own 1 and there's about as many things that can go wrong on the play as right...I think I would have actully kicked the field goal and forced Wyoming to create a touchdown to win it...

I agree.

Which we did anyway.

No doubt...but it does put more pressure on the offense to be more aggressive. It could have forced different playcalls, resulting differently.

[muy_thaiguy]

I'm also not sure if the logic of going for 4th and goal on the 1 really applies to the same extent in overtime. There's no pinning them down on their own 1 and there's about as many things that can go wrong on the play as right...I think I would have actully kicked the field goal and forced Wyoming to create a touchdown to win it...

I agree.

Which we did anyway.

No doubt...but it does put more pressure on the offense to be more aggressive. It could have forced different playcalls, resulting differently.

Perhaps, but Hill thought he could get Matthews through the Cowboy's D Line, but he couldn't. And the Cowboys already had 4 previous come from behind victories (most impressive against SDSU with 24 unanswered points in the 4th), so it was not exactly a new feeling.

[oVo]

Wyoming showed some offense today too with 234 rushing yards and 204 through the air.
Alexander ran for 137 and a touchdown, but Carta-Samuels at QB was the difference maker
coming up with a lot of big plays.

[muy_thaiguy]

Wyoming showed some offense today too with 234 rushing yards and 204 through the air.
Alexander ran for 137 and a touchdown, but Carta-Samuels at QB was the difference maker
coming up with a lot of big plays.

Wyoming actually got more rushing and passing yards then FSU, which too, was awesome.

And we are getting some faster WRs and hopefully a stronger O-line. Though it will be hard to replace our Senior heavy D-line.

[oVo]

I'm also not sure if the logic of going for 4th and goal on the 1 really applies to the same extent in overtime. There's no pinning them down on their own 1 and there's about as many things that can go wrong on the play as right...I think I would have actully kicked the field goal and forced Wyoming to create a touchdown to win it...

After two failed attempts from the one yard line in the first overtime, Fresno State should have kicked the field goal for the lead. They shut down the Cowboys forcing a 40 yard field goal attempt for the win, which failed leading to the second OT. Wudda cudda shudda will come up a lot on FSU's flight home.

[muy_thaiguy]

I'm also not sure if the logic of going for 4th and goal on the 1 really applies to the same extent in overtime. There's no pinning them down on their own 1 and there's about as many things that can go wrong on the play as right...I think I would have actully kicked the field goal and forced Wyoming to create a touchdown to win it...

After two failed attempts from the one yard line in the first overtime, Fresno State should have kicked the field goal for the lead. They shut down the Cowboys forcing a 40 yard field goal attempt for the win, which failed leading to the second OT. Wudda cudda shudda will come up a lot on FSU's flight home.

And they only came with a couple hundred fans. Wyoming had at least 20,000 there.

[oVo]

There were TWO BIG UPSET WINS yesterday
making it a good day to be a COWBOY!

HOW 'BOUT THEM COWBOYS!

[muy_thaiguy]

There were TWO BIG UPSET WINS yesterday
making it a good day to be a COWBOY!

HOW 'BOUT THEM COWBOYS!

Meh to the Dallas Cowboys. Never been one for pro sports in general, at least since Michael Jordon retired from the Chicago Bulls. Though, it does mean it was a hell of a day for Cowboys fans (though I don't know about the OK Cowboys).

[TheMissionary]

Cowboys proved that the leading Rusher in the nation CAN be contained.

Does allowing 144 yards of rushing to one guy really fit the definition of "contained"?

(Great goal line stand and game by the Cowboys, however.)

Considering BSU allowed well over 200, yes.

Interesting definition of "contained", you have there, but I will have to disagree with it.

For a benchmark of sorts, the MOST rushing yardage the Nebraska defense has given up all season was 116 yards. Now, the FIFTEEN yards of rushing they gave up to #12-ranked Virginia Tech and EIGHTEEN yards of rushing to #2-ranked Texas...that's "contained".

And it's not because Nebraska can't stop the pass. <smile>

I think Nebraska's defense was just trying to make their offense not look so bad compared to their opponents. They also managed to lose both of those games by not stopping them when it matter. Wyoming of course did stop their opponent when it mattered. Contained when important is much more than contained and losing.

Go Pokes.

[Woodruff]

Cowboys proved that the leading Rusher in the nation CAN be contained.

Does allowing 144 yards of rushing to one guy really fit the definition of "contained"?

(Great goal line stand and game by the Cowboys, however.)

Considering BSU allowed well over 200, yes.

Interesting definition of "contained", you have there, but I will have to disagree with it.

For a benchmark of sorts, the MOST rushing yardage the Nebraska defense has given up all season was 116 yards. Now, the FIFTEEN yards of rushing they gave up to #12-ranked Virginia Tech and EIGHTEEN yards of rushing to #2-ranked Texas...that's "contained".

And it's not because Nebraska can't stop the pass. <smile>

I think Nebraska's defense was just trying to make their offense not look so bad compared to their opponents.

You'll get no argument from me on that one - I've said as much many times in this thread.

They also managed to lose both of those games by not stopping them when it matter. Wyoming of course did stop their opponent when it mattered.

Well...they did once anyway. I guess they get credit for actually being in a close game there. Speaking of which...what DID happen against that same Texas team when Wyoming played them?

[oVo]

I watched the Nebraska/VaTech game in Blacksburg and the Huskers offense drove the ball all game long but settled for five field goals in the red zone. The Hokies got a TD early and were held in check the rest of the day, 31 total rushing yards and 74 passing... until their final possession. Two passes doomed Nebraska as VT got a 78 yard reception followed by an 11 yard TD (which I remember as a 4th down play) with 21 seconds remaining to win 16-15. In their 4 loses he only team to distance themselves from Nebraska all year was Texas Tech (31-10) the rest... VT 16-15, Iowa State 9-7 and Texas 13-12. The Nebraska D has kicked butt in every game with only a single exception.

New orleans Bowl: Middle Tennessee State 42 Southern Mississippi 32
St.Petersburg Bowl: Rutgers 45 UCF 24

next bowls:
MAACO Bowl: #18 Oregon State (8-4) vs #14 BYU (10-2)
Poinsettia Bowl: #23 Utah (9-3) vs Cal (8-4)
Hawaii Bowl: Nevada (8-4) vs SMU (7-5)

Mountain West 1-0
Big East 1-0
Sun Belt 1-0
WAC 0-1
C-USA 0-2

[Woodruff]

I watched the Nebraska/VaTech game in Blacksburg and the Huskers offense drove the ball all game long but settled for five field goals in the red zone. The Hokies got a TD early and were held in check the rest of the day, 31 total rushing yards and 74 passing... until their final possession. Two passes doomed Nebraska as VT got a 78 yard reception followed by an 11 yard TD (which I remember as a 4th down play) with 21 seconds remaining to win 16-15. In their 4 loses he only team to distance themselves from Nebraska all year was Texas Tech (31-10) the rest... VT 16-15, Iowa State 9-7 and Texas 13-12. The Nebraska D has kicked butt in every game with only a single exception.

New orleans Bowl: Middle Tennessee State 42 Southern Mississippi 32
St.Petersburg Bowl: Rutgers 45 UCF 24

next bowls:
MAACO Bowl: #18 Oregon State (8-4) vs #14 BYU (10-2)
Poinsettia Bowl: #23 Utah (9-3) vs Cal (8-4)
Hawaii Bowl: Nevada (8-4) vs SMU (7-5)

Mountain West 1-0
Big East 1-0
Sun Belt 1-0
WAC 0-1
C-USA 0-2

Man, no bowl games today? That sucks...