Golfe du St. Laurent[FD,G,GP,FF]

MrBenn · Post by **MrBenn** » Mon Jan 11, 2010 6:52 pm

Before this continues, and to save arguments at a later stage, it seems like me that the primary cartographers (ie people who drew the map) are Lone.Prophet and dolomite13. One of you will need to take overall ownership of the project (for copyright reasons) - and then I'll happily move you back into the foundry proper

Orange-Idaho-Dog · Post by **Orange-Idaho-Dog** » Mon Jan 11, 2010 6:57 pm

Why does it matter who takes "overall ownership"? Both would agree to the copyright terms, so it shouldn't matter...

MrBenn · Post by **MrBenn** » Tue Jan 12, 2010 3:53 pm

Orange-Idaho-Dog wrote:Why does it matter who takes "overall ownership"? Both would agree to the copyright terms, so it shouldn't matter...

Because a single person needs to agree to the terms of the copyright agreement. That's the way it has always been.

Lone.prophet · Post by **Lone.prophet** » Wed Jan 13, 2010 7:23 am

is it alright if i say i agree to it?

Unit_2 · Post by **Unit_2** » Wed Jan 13, 2010 6:54 pm

Lone.prophet wrote:is it alright if i say i agree to it?

Go for it. I give all my consent to L.P or Dolomite, whomever wants to deal with the copyright.

Orange-Idaho-Dog · Post by **Orange-Idaho-Dog** » Thu Jan 14, 2010 1:59 am

I guess I'm kind of squished out of the 'ownership' circle now with only doing the xml, but I still don't see how LP has any rights to this. The colors have changed, the borders have changed, the names have changed, the title has changed, the textures have changed...

And personally, I'm against LP taking any rights at all considering he ditched the map forever ago, 'lost' the files needed to edit it, and now re-appears months later claiming full ownership? Throwing the BS flag here.

For the work Dolomite has put into the map, weather time consuming or not, I really want to see him take ownership.

Although at this point, we're too far in development to let this halt things, again. And I don't have as much say in the matter as I would like.

Orange-Idaho-Dog · Post by **Orange-Idaho-Dog** » Fri Jan 15, 2010 3:26 am

Stepping aside from copyright issues...

I see some of the edges still appear 'sharp', and brown spots LP mentioned in Est du Quebec, though they look to be associated more with the border lines rather than the color of the actual territory(s).

On another note, back on page 52 I think Mr Benn mentioned that Iancanton would take a closer look at the last XML update upon his return. Are we qualified for the XML stamp yet, or does the graphical work need to be completed first?

dolomite13 · Post by **dolomite13** » Wed Jan 20, 2010 12:10 am

OK I tried to clean up edges and make suggested changes etc...

I will go ahead and claim copyright as a "legal derivative" of the original so that we may move this back into production.

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Large v11

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2712/428 ... 453f_o.png

Small v11

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2781/428 ... 32fd_o.png

The Copyright Agreement

The author retains copyright on their work, and gives Conquer Club permission to use the imagery free of charge, for as long as Conquer Club sees fit on the Conquer Club website. Conquer Club cannot sell, lease, or lend the right to use the images to anyone else. The author swears that their map is their own work, or a legal derivative work and by submitting it, do hereby claim all responsibility for that being true.

MrBenn · Post by **MrBenn** » Wed Jan 20, 2010 5:00 pm

Since the map has been redrawn, it should really be put into the Graphics Workshop - although I don't see any need for it to stay in there very long - it just needs the scrutiny to check large/small images, coord placement, borders etc..

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RedBaron0 · Post by **RedBaron0** » Thu Jan 21, 2010 1:45 am

Agreed, shouldn't be long.

The connecting bridge from Quebec to Chaudiere seems to have a dividing line on it where the from Montreal to Monteregie doesn't. Either way you want, should be constant. I prefer the Montreal to Monteregie connector myself. The connecting dots between Halifax/PEI/Iles are in direct line with the "P" in PEI makes an almost perfect line. Just for a little clarity I'd like to see them offset a little bit just prevent any confusion. Is Halifax connected to Cape Breton? The connection is a little murky. Same for St. John and Halifax.

dolomite13 · Post by **dolomite13** » Thu Jan 21, 2010 12:34 pm

RedBaron0 wrote:Agreed, shouldn't be long.

The connecting bridge from Quebec to Chaudiere seems to have a dividing line on it where the from Montreal to Monteregie doesn't. Either way you want, should be constant. I prefer the Montreal to Monteregie connector myself. The connecting dots between Halifax/PEI/Iles are in direct line with the "P" in PEI makes an almost perfect line. Just for a little clarity I'd like to see them offset a little bit just prevent any confusion. Is Halifax connected to Cape Breton? The connection is a little murky. Same for St. John and Halifax.

I will make those changes soon, girlfriend is out of town all weekend =)

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Orange-Idaho-Dog · Post by **Orange-Idaho-Dog** » Thu Jan 21, 2010 8:16 pm

When the final graphics are all sorted out, I'll make sure the XML coordinates are correct.

dolomite13 · Post by **dolomite13** » Mon Jan 25, 2010 12:08 am

OK here are the changes you asked for red...

- moved dots
- added seperation lines
- made the connections clearer (I hope)

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http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2730/430 ... 222c_o.png

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2726/430 ... 0179_o.png

Unit_2 · Post by **Unit_2** » Tue Jan 26, 2010 1:35 am

Looks great! All we need now is to test the Cords and we are good to go, yes?

Unit_2.

Orange-Idaho-Dog · Post by **Orange-Idaho-Dog** » Thu Jan 28, 2010 1:26 am

Do we have an official OK from the Graphic's team yet? If so I'll re-test the XML asap and we can get this show on the road.

dolomite13 · Post by **dolomite13** » Thu Jan 28, 2010 1:07 pm

Orange-Idaho-Dog wrote:Do we have an official OK from the Graphic's team yet? If so I'll re-test the XML asap and we can get this show on the road.

I don't think I moved any unit circles or if I did it was possibly only a pixel or two so it should be quite fast to get the xml updated. =)

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thenobodies80 · Post by **thenobodies80** » Thu Jan 28, 2010 2:52 pm

Nice work.

Few small things:
New Brunswick and Nova scotia have similar colors, can you try to switch colors? maybe newfoundland with nova scotia.
Dolomite, have you tested your images with vischeck? I'm not sure but Est du québec and duplessis might give problems to colorblind people.

I did a test with coordinates and i don't see big issues, but i have some advices for you:
On the small version you could move 1 or 2 pixels to the right the Saint John text.
And 888 on montreal covers the connection with monteregie, can you move the coord a bit to left or/and down?

A final thought, have you ever considered to improve the title?

I know, it is perfectly readable, but (sorry no offense) it looks a bit flat, like if there's something still missing.
I think that you should try to use the title to create a perfect mix between your graphics and the place represented. RedBaron and myself thought about a fleur de lis, for example. Obviously you're free to try with something else, but we'd really like to see more canadian feeling on this map.

ender516 · Post by **ender516** » Fri Jan 29, 2010 12:23 am

The fleur-de-lis is very much a Quebec symbol, so I would say it's not broad-based enough. The home range of the Acadian people makes a closer approach to covering the area, and has a nice tricolour flag with a gold star in the canton, but this basically omits Newfoundland and Labrador. Perhaps crossing the Acadian banner with the N.L flag would add some pizzazz.
In a different direction, when I think of tourism in the Gulf of St. Lawrence, I think of whale watching. Could someone find a nice picture of a whale breaching?

RedBaron0 · Post by **RedBaron0** » Sat Jan 30, 2010 1:28 am

A Beluga whale for sure.

Click image to enlarge.

ender516 · Post by **ender516** » Sun Jan 31, 2010 12:54 am

No, they are way too cute for CC. What are you, a Raffi fan?

RedBaron0 · Post by **RedBaron0** » Sun Jan 31, 2010 2:09 am

Okay, those 2 might be really cute for a map, but the Beluga are native to the St. Lawrence river.

ender516 · Post by **ender516** » Sun Jan 31, 2010 12:52 pm

RedBaron0 wrote:Okay, those 2 might be really cute for a map, but the Beluga are native to the St. Lawrence river.

True, so they would be found in the Gulf, but a humpback breaching would be a more dramatic picture, and they are found there as well.

MrBenn · Post by **MrBenn** » Sun Feb 07, 2010 2:41 pm

thenobodies80 wrote:Nice work.

Few small things:
New Brunswick and Nova scotia have similar colors, can you try to switch colors? maybe newfoundland with nova scotia.
Dolomite, have you tested your images with vischeck? I'm not sure but Est du québec and duplessis might give problems to colorblind people.

I did a colourblind check a while back, and suggested some changes as a result of it. I think it's fine since then, unless anything else has changed much?

Orange-Idaho-Dog · Post by **Orange-Idaho-Dog** » Sun Feb 07, 2010 3:22 pm

I'm not sure what Dolomite has been up to, but hopefully we can get another version up with the changes soon. I know he's been busy lately IRL.

jpcloet · Post by **jpcloet** » Mon Feb 08, 2010 7:44 pm

I agree on the above color comment. Switch East Quebec and New Brunswick

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