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Queen_Herpes wrote:This from Wikipedia:

Wikipedia wrote: The Parliament of Canada (French: Parlement du Canada) is the federal legislative branch of Canada, seated at Parliament Hill in the national capital, Ottawa. Formally, the body consists of the Canadian monarch – represented by her Governor General – the Senate, and the House of Commons, each element having its own officers and organisation...

...The parliament of Canada is composed of three parts: the monarch, the Senate, and the House of Commons.

The sovereign is regarded as the head of state by official government sources, judges, and constitutional scholars, while the Governor General and Lieutenant Governors are all only representatives of, and thus equally subordinate to, that figure.


The sovereign is styled the Queen of Canada, but she is one-and-the-same the Queen of England, Elizabeth II.

This from 2005, when the Queen dissolved Canada's Parliament:

"Canadian Prime Minister Paul Martin dissolved the House of Commons Tuesday and elections were set following Parliament's vote of no confidence in the government.

Martin went to the official residence of Governor-General Michaelle Jean, representative of head of state Queen Elizabeth, and announced that she had granted his request to dissolve Parliament and that the election would be on Jan. 23."

IMO, you're in a monarchical government, and your taxes...eventually find their way to the Royal Family.

I don't need Wikipedia to tell me about my own government. The head of state ISN'T the Queen, but rather, the Governor General (who is appointed by the Queen). Anyway, she (or he) has no real power, and is legally and constitutionally bound to do what the Prime Minister (that's like our President, in case you didn't know) tells her to. It's a purely ceremonial role, though she'll sometimes go and do some diplomatic work, it barely goes past giving ambassadors tours and stuff like that. She prorogued parliament because the PM told her to. Not because she decided to flex her UNLIMITED POWER. Because she has no power. If she ever decides to go on some power hungry rampage, then she's breaking the law and we'll just give her the boot. It's that simple. So, once again, no, we're not paying taxes to the Queen.
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hecter wrote:I don't need Wikipedia to tell me about my own government. The head of state ISN'T the Queen, but rather, the Governor General (who is appointed by the Queen). Anyway, she (or he) has no real power, and is legally and constitutionally bound to do what the Prime Minister (that's like our President, in case you didn't know) tells her to. It's a purely ceremonial role, though she'll sometimes go and do some diplomatic work, it barely goes past giving ambassadors tours and stuff like that. She prorogued parliament because the PM told her to. Not because she decided to flex her UNLIMITED POWER. Because she has no power. If she ever decides to go on some power hungry rampage, then she's breaking the law and we'll just give her the boot. It's that simple. So, once again, no, we're not paying taxes to the Queen.


If hte head-of-state is appointed by the Queen, sound like your head-of-state is the Queen. I'm just saying. I support it! I support a Monarchy in US as well. Perhaps Warren Buffet could be the first Emperor? He'd be more interesting looking in royal garb than Bill Gates.
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hecter wrote:The head of state ISN'T the Queen,


The head of state is the queen. Having any power at all is not a requirement for being the head of state.
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Snorri1234 wrote:
hecter wrote:The head of state ISN'T the Queen,


The head of state is the queen. Having any power at all is not a requirement for being the head of state.

You're stocking shelves in a retail chain. Would you call your boss your manager and your district manager, or would you call your boss the president of the company? I mean, sure, technically she's at the top, but she's long ago delegated all her power to other people, and, to top it off, as I said earlier, we've removed all her power anyway.
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hecter wrote:I don't need Wikipedia to tell me about my own government. The head of state ISN'T the Queen, but rather, the Governor General (who is appointed by the Queen). Anyway, she (or he) has no real power, and is legally and constitutionally bound to do what the Prime Minister (that's like our President, in case you didn't know) tells her to. It's a purely ceremonial role, though she'll sometimes go and do some diplomatic work, it barely goes past giving ambassadors tours and stuff like that. She prorogued parliament because the PM told her to. Not because she decided to flex her UNLIMITED POWER. Because she has no power. If she ever decides to go on some power hungry rampage, then she's breaking the law and we'll just give her the boot. It's that simple. So, once again, no, we're not paying taxes to the Queen.


If hte head-of-state is appointed by the Queen, sound like your head-of-state is the Queen. I'm just saying. I support it! I support a Monarchy in US as well. Perhaps Warren Buffet could be the first Emperor? He'd be more interesting looking in royal garb than Bill Gates.

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hecter wrote:
Snorri1234 wrote:
hecter wrote:The head of state ISN'T the Queen,


The head of state is the queen. Having any power at all is not a requirement for being the head of state.

You're stocking shelves in a retail chain. Would you call your boss your manager and your district manager, or would you call your boss the president of the company? I mean, sure, technically she's at the top, but she's long ago delegated all her power to other people, and, to top it off, as I said earlier, we've removed all her power anyway.


Oh I know. she's still the head of state though. Much like our Queen is the head of state here.
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hecter wrote:
Snorri1234 wrote:
hecter wrote:The head of state ISN'T the Queen,


The head of state is the queen. Having any power at all is not a requirement for being the head of state.

You're stocking shelves in a retail chain. Would you call your boss your manager and your district manager, or would you call your boss the president of the company? I mean, sure, technically she's at the top, but she's long ago delegated all her power to other people, and, to top it off, as I said earlier, we've removed all her power anyway.


I'm fascinated that you and your crew have usurped the power of the queen. Perhaps she should read this thread? Which famous Canadians grace your currency? I haven't seen any coin or bill from Canada lately.
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Queen_Herpes wrote:
hecter wrote:
Snorri1234 wrote:
hecter wrote:The head of state ISN'T the Queen,


The head of state is the queen. Having any power at all is not a requirement for being the head of state.

You're stocking shelves in a retail chain. Would you call your boss your manager and your district manager, or would you call your boss the president of the company? I mean, sure, technically she's at the top, but she's long ago delegated all her power to other people, and, to top it off, as I said earlier, we've removed all her power anyway.


I'm fascinated that you and your crew have usurped the power of the queen. Perhaps she should read this thread? Which famous Canadians grace your currency? I haven't seen any coin or bill from Canada lately.

Queen on the coin (unless their limited edition mints, which we have a lot of) and 20, Prime Ministers on the rest.
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hecter wrote:
Queen_Herpes wrote:
hecter wrote:
Snorri1234 wrote:
hecter wrote:The head of state ISN'T the Queen,


The head of state is the queen. Having any power at all is not a requirement for being the head of state.

You're stocking shelves in a retail chain. Would you call your boss your manager and your district manager, or would you call your boss the president of the company? I mean, sure, technically she's at the top, but she's long ago delegated all her power to other people, and, to top it off, as I said earlier, we've removed all her power anyway.


I'm fascinated that you and your crew have usurped the power of the queen. Perhaps she should read this thread? Which famous Canadians grace your currency? I haven't seen any coin or bill from Canada lately.

Queen on the coin (unless their limited edition mints, which we have a lot of) and 20, Prime Ministers on the rest.


Interesting, the Queen is not the sovereign and is not the head of state of the United States. She similarly is not on any of our coins. I wonder why?
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Important piece of information:

Head of State =/= Head of Government
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MeDeFe wrote:Important piece of information:

Head of State =/= Head of Government


No more than the figurehead on a ship is the captain.
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Timminz wrote:
MeDeFe wrote:Important piece of information:

Head of State =/= Head of Government


No more than the figurehead on a ship is the captain.


Yeah, and what power does that guy have, right Canada?
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Queen_Herpes wrote:
Timminz wrote:
MeDeFe wrote:Important piece of information:

Head of State =/= Head of Government


No more than the figurehead on a ship is the captain.


Yeah, and what power does that guy have, right Canada?


Oh wait, I forgot Canada doesn't have a navy. They probably won't get the reference.
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Queen_Herpes wrote:
Queen_Herpes wrote:
Timminz wrote:
MeDeFe wrote:Important piece of information:

Head of State =/= Head of Government


No more than the figurehead on a ship is the captain.


Yeah, and what power does that guy have, right Canada?


Oh wait, I forgot Canada doesn't have a navy. They probably won't get the reference.


No no, they got a few fishing boats armed with machine guns. And a battalion fully stocked with inner tubes.
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Canada is a patch of land carved out by a foreign power and exploited for its resources. I always considered Canada to be the English Colonies that were good little colonists.
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I love how this thread has turned into a Canada roast. :lol:
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Phatscotty wrote:Canada is a patch of land carved out by a foreign power and exploited for its resources. I always considered Canada to be the English Colonies that were good little colonists.


I allways consider the USA to be a nation of disloyal, tax evaders ;) .

Oh you forget we've sent you tax evading scum packing whenever you've come a knocking, so that border was the result of us keeping you from taking it.
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Just so you know it's officialy 'Hockey Day in Canada' today, so you may have picked the wrong day to pick on Canada. I'll have to take my elbows to you guys in the corner.
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Coastal Brute wrote:Just so you know it's officialy 'Hockey Day in Canada' today, so you may have picked the wrong day to pick on Canada. I'll have to take my elbows to you guys in the corner.


OH, will this be in the internet hockey rink?
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Baron Von PWN wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:Canada is a patch of land carved out by a foreign power and exploited for its resources. I always considered Canada to be the English Colonies that were good little colonists.


I allways consider the USA to be a nation of disloyal, tax evaders ;) .

Oh you forget we've sent you tax evading scum packing whenever you've come a knocking, so that border was the result of us keeping you from taking it.

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Phatscotty wrote:
Baron Von PWN wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:Canada is a patch of land carved out by a foreign power and exploited for its resources. I always considered Canada to be the English Colonies that were good little colonists.


I allways consider the USA to be a nation of disloyal, tax evaders ;) .

Oh you forget we've sent you tax evading scum packing whenever you've come a knocking, so that border was the result of us keeping you from taking it.

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Freemdom rings, funny you mention those. Vancouver is about to host the Olympic rings and while they're here we'll be picking up some gold by burning up the ice with our hockey skills.
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Phatscotty wrote:
Baron Von PWN wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:Canada is a patch of land carved out by a foreign power and exploited for its resources. I always considered Canada to be the English Colonies that were good little colonists.


I allways consider the USA to be a nation of disloyal, tax evaders ;) .

Oh you forget we've sent you tax evading scum packing whenever you've come a knocking, so that border was the result of us keeping you from taking it.

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Not as loudly as their "national" Anthem (Nation in quotes because, well, they're British subjects.):

Oh, Canada,
Just North of You-Es-Ay!
And South of the Pole, we love to say g'day!
With glowing hearts Queen's subjects rise,
to greet our Queen so sweet!
Women big and wide, O Canada,
We love our stinky feet!
God help us now we are so weak!
O Canada, We love our stinky feet.
O Canada, We love our stinky feet.

The original was written in French for chrissakes, you'd think they'd know they were British!!!!!
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Coastal Brute wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:
Baron Von PWN wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:Canada is a patch of land carved out by a foreign power and exploited for its resources. I always considered Canada to be the English Colonies that were good little colonists.


I allways consider the USA to be a nation of disloyal, tax evaders ;) .

Oh you forget we've sent you tax evading scum packing whenever you've come a knocking, so that border was the result of us keeping you from taking it.

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Freemdom rings, funny you mention those. Vancouver is about to host the Olympic rings and while they're here we'll be picking up some gold by burning up the ice with our hockey skills.


And don't forget Curling. Please tell me you British Canadians kept Curling as part of the games. It is, quite honestly, one of the best spectator sports around. And, I might add, among the more competitive sports. Please!!! *crossing fingers*!!!!
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With that many eyeballs on your head I can see why you're into spectator sports. Curling is a sport you participate in, not watch.
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