[Abandoned] - Peru

[Rih0]

Mod Note:Abandoned - If resurrected, this one must be checked again.

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Number of territories: 35 (4 ports and 5 outside countries included)
Mapmakers: [player]Rih0[/player], maybe anyone else can help if interested.
Actual version:

V 5.1: (changes onto river and mountain + BigSize Img)
[bigimg]http://s17.postimg.org/6kg2mjjvz/SMALLSIZE.png[/bigimg]

[spoiler=BigSize][/spoiler]

Bonus:

Rainforest: +3
North Highlands: +5
North desert: +3
South Highlands: +1
South desert: +4

Central Highlands has NO bonus

Ports: +2 for 3 / +3 for all
Outside/external countries: +5 for 4 / +7 for all

Neutrals:

External/outside countries and ports are neutral 3
Lima is neutral 5
Puno is neutral 3

[spoiler=Older versions]V 5.0:
[bigimg]http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/5488/peruremake.png[/bigimg]

V 4.6:
http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/7889/smallforpng.png

V 4.5:
http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/407/ ... g1copy.png

V4.4
http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/407/si ... g1copy.png

V 4.3
http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/407/ ... g1copy.png

V 4.1
http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/407/size ... g1copy.png

V4.0
http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/723/ ... 1copyg.png

V3.9: Gameplay adjustments
http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/407/ ... g1copy.png

V 3.8: Now with simplifyed grafics, and finally the abreviations reducement:
http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/407/ ... g1copy.png

V 3.6: Finally on the correct size for small maps, it has the capital bonus changed and diferent bridge style. Also, the font is diferent.
http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/6803/s ... lcopy4.png

V 3.3: Totaly improved grafics and capital +1 autodeploy added. Unfortunately 2 more keywords.
http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/9107/map4donecopy.png

V 2.2: Changed mountain positions and added the 88's
http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/9476 ... sccopy.png

V 2.1: Gameplay space included
http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/9476 ... sccopy.png

V 2.0: Has more territories, lower number of bridges, better colored
http://www.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/18e5b687e0.png

V 1.5: Original.
http://www.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/03893d4503.png[/spoiler]

[natty dread]

You don't need to put my name in it... I have already 2 maps going for design briefs, so I can't have a 3rd one... the new rules of the Foundry. I'll still keep giving advice to you if you wish.

ps. I haven't quenched a map yet, but I have 3 projects of my own...

[MrBenn]

Merged the above thread out of the Design Brief Submissions thread

[Rih0]

Ok. Thanks for help anyway.

[natty dread]

If you're still continuing the development... I would suggest you start figuring out the gameplay. What are the bonus values for each bonus area? How many neutrals start on the capital? The bonus values need to be put on the map.

Also it would seem to me that not all the abbreviations are necessary. Try to squeeze in as many of the territory names as you can, it is a lot better to have the names a bit cramped than to have tons of abbreviations to look up.

Ie. Pasco could well fit in the territory area. Amazonas could also, if you don't mind that the names overlap other territories, which isn't a problem IMO if done so that the territory names are clearly centered to the territories they represent.

Also some of the abbreviations don't quite make sense to me... R = Apurica? Why not "Apu." or "Ap."?

Huancavelica could be HC rather than Ha...

Also the rules of the game need to be clearly stated in the legend. Ie. if the ports all connect to each other, it needs to be mentioned in the map. A map needs to be such that you will know how to play it just by looking at the image...

Well, I guess this is enough for you to work on for your next update. Looking forward to it.

[cairnswk]

Rih0
That's a great start you've got there.
Are these districts traditional?
You've got about 26 territories there i think, and the map in realtion to the geography i guess is rather linear.
Is there any way you could further subdivide the green territories to add a couple more inland territories to the map?
And are you planning anything for the ports?

[Rih0]

1st: no, I wont divide anything else. Those are the real peru divisions, and that's the idea on the map.

2nd: the ports are strategical points. They can assault each other.

[the.killing.44]

1st: no, I wont divide anything else. Those are the real peru divisions, and that's the idea on the map.

26 terts is not going to make the cut; you should get upwards of 36.

Nice start though.

[natty dread]

26 terts is not going to make the cut;

Why not. Think doodle, luxembourg...

[cairnswk]

1st: no, I wont divide anything else. Those are the real peru divisions, and that's the idea on the map.

2nd: the ports are strategical points. They can assault each other.

Thanks for your reply.
Can you get the "ports can assault each other" on the map so we know.

[Rih0]

I'll do it, but updates wil take some time to go on(4 day trip)

[the.killing.44]

26 terts is not going to make the cut;

Why not. Think doodle, luxembourg...

2 is more than enough…

[Rih0]

ok, legends on the map. What else needed?

[Evil DIMwit]

26 terts is not going to make the cut;

Why not. Think doodle, luxembourg...

2 is more than enough…

Madagascar, Duck and Cover, Egypt: Lower, Egypt: Upper... There are at least half a dozen maps with 26 territories or fewer.

[Industrial Helix]

Hmm... I bet you could make the actual map bigger if you turned it a little. That way you could get some more of those names in there. I'm not a huge fan of the abbreviations

I say ditch the capital bonus.... seems like every map does it now.

[MrBenn]

While it's true to say that there is not currently a map of Peru on Conquer Club, the general consensus appears to be that the map is probably a little small to succeed through the foundry.

You've already knocked back the suggestion of attempting to subdivide the administrative regions - is there any other approach you could take to increase the playable size of the game board?

Simply adding cities/capitals probably feels a little bit contrived - it might be worth giving some consideration to the history of Peru - the Incas, the silver mines, Paddington Bear and marmalade sandwiches... (I was joking about Paddington Bear). It might be worth considering how to tap into something Peruvian to give the map a bit of flavour.

[Rih0]

Ok, Less keywords now. V 2.0 is done with bigger size and improved grafics (I will include gameplay soon).

[Rih0]

Ok guys, anyhing you would like in the mountains?

[Industrial Helix]

I already see the gameplay being a problem. A player goes for green, then expands to purple and has an easily defensible bonus. Perhaps a few mountain passes?

[Rih0]

Don't worry, It wont have a big bonus. Also, there are western countries that won't have anything diferent from normal territories

[Rih0]

I want to know wich version is better (A or B), so vote down here please.

[AndyDufresne]

I'd go with the A Version---it is unique in that it does incorporate the outlying countries---and is also a smaller map graphically---which I think makes this project look a little better. I'd focus my effort into that version.


--Andy

[Rih0]

Conquer club: Now I need to know: can I move it to the gameplay workshop? If don't, what I still need to do?

[skeletonboy]

"Western countries has no bonus" could be confusing since they are to the east of the map...

[Teflon Kris]

Stick with it - "26 territories is not making the cut" is not based on a divine law - more small maps would be welcomed by a fair section of the playing community.

Plus, more south american maps would be welcomed too.