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It might actually work.Nobunaga wrote:
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Wait....how is that relevant?Nobunaga wrote: it and who smokes,
Yeah Nobu. This small detail undermines your entire point.Snorri1234 wrote:Wait....how is that relevant?Nobunaga wrote: it and who smokes,
natty_dread wrote:Do ponies have sex?
(proud member of the Occasionally Wrongly Banned)Army of GOD wrote:the term heterosexual is offensive. I prefer to be called "normal"
It might.PLAYER57832 wrote:It might actually work.Nobunaga wrote:
What the hell could possibly go wrong???[/b][/color]
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Spazz Arcane wrote:If birds could swim and fish could fly I would awaken in the morning to the sturgeons cry. If fish could fly and birds could swim I'd still use worms to fish for them.
saxitoxin wrote:I'm on Team GabonX
Napoleon Ier wrote:You people need to grow up to be honest.
Did we say that?Neoteny wrote:Yeesh. And you guys say climatologists are fear-mongers...
Spazz Arcane wrote:If birds could swim and fish could fly I would awaken in the morning to the sturgeons cry. If fish could fly and birds could swim I'd still use worms to fish for them.
saxitoxin wrote:I'm on Team GabonX
You specifically? Perhaps not (though likely implied). Climate-change denialists, most definitely.GabonX wrote:Did we say that?Neoteny wrote:Yeesh. And you guys say climatologists are fear-mongers...
Napoleon Ier wrote:You people need to grow up to be honest.
The climate has basically been the same for 70 million years. Just like socialized health care....cuz ...Neoteny wrote:You specifically? Perhaps not (though likely implied). Climate-change denialists, most definitely.GabonX wrote:Did we say that?Neoteny wrote:Yeesh. And you guys say climatologists are fear-mongers...
no dinosaur should go broke cuz they got sick"
john9blue wrote:Yeah Nobu. This small detail undermines your entire point.Snorri1234 wrote:Wait....how is that relevant?Nobunaga wrote: it and who smokes,
... A list of companies that, just within the last week, have outlined how they expect to change their ways in line with what you're talking about.thegreekdog wrote:I'll try not to get too tax technical here, but there is at least one unintended consequence of the bill that has recently been revealed.
When a company presents its financial statements for purposes of its financial reporting, it takes into account potential "tax assets" which are essentially tax benefits it can take in the future. These "tax assets" help the company better understand the company's potential tax liability (and therefore future post-tax earnings) in future years.
There is a federal subsidy for companies that provide post-retirement medical benefits. The federal government subsidizes 70% of the cost and the company pays the remaining 30%. The entire 100% is deductible. However, as a result of this bill, the cost is no longer deductible. So, now the companies that booked this tax benefit will no longer have the benefit and thus will be required to adjust their earnings.
So, a couple of things come to mind here:
(1) Congress is waxing "we didn't know" about this. I'm fairly certain that they were told this was a consequence of the bill.
(2) Congress is holding hearings because at least one company has said they are going to reevaluate post-retirement benefits, and obviously Congress does not like that.
(3) I believe Congress will amend that portion of the law and permit companies to take that deduction in future years, which raises the question as to whether the law will be revenue-neutral anymore (if it was in the first place). The answer is no, by the way.
I'm glad that you're finally seeing them for who they really are.thegreekdog wrote:By the way, and I just throw this out there... let's say these companies have to take a hit. Guess what? The CEO and the board are not the people taking the hit; you're the people that are going to be taking the hit. So, when AT&T has to raise their prices or not provide post-retirement benefits, it's on us. Again, just a little FYI from your friendly neighborhood racist, homophobe Tea Party member.
Mr_Adams wrote:You, sir, are an idiot.
Timminz wrote:By that logic, you eat babies.

I dont mind being broke so long as my ass-hole neighbor is healthythegreekdog wrote:By the way, and I just throw this out there... let's say these companies have to take a hit. Guess what? The CEO and the board are not the people taking the hit; you're the people that are going to be taking the hit. So, when AT&T has to raise their prices or not provide post-retirement benefits, it's on us. Again, just a little FYI from your friendly neighborhood racist, homophobe Tea Party member.
It's called the cost of doing business. The other option, having us support their employees artificially through our taxes, means even those who are not customers are paying.thegreekdog wrote:By the way, and I just throw this out there... let's say these companies have to take a hit. Guess what? The CEO and the board are not the people taking the hit; you're the people that are going to be taking the hit. So, when AT&T has to raise their prices or not provide post-retirement benefits, it's on us. Again, just a little FYI from your friendly neighborhood racist, homophobe Tea Party member.
hmmm..so healthcare costs will decrease, while EVERYTHING else increases in price. I thought we weren't going to inflate ourselves out of our debt problem....PLAYER57832 wrote:It's called the cost of doing business. The other option, having us support their employees artificially through our taxes, means even those who are not customers are paying.thegreekdog wrote:By the way, and I just throw this out there... let's say these companies have to take a hit. Guess what? The CEO and the board are not the people taking the hit; you're the people that are going to be taking the hit. So, when AT&T has to raise their prices or not provide post-retirement benefits, it's on us. Again, just a little FYI from your friendly neighborhood racist, homophobe Tea Party member.

sounds like a lot of people are going to be laid off, in an already "worst economy since the great depression". How is that better than nothing? a job is way more important. somebody needs to pay those taxes! it's a double negative!karel wrote:well its better then nothing...so i'm for it