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stabskillz13 wrote:How can you say that communism is good and socialism is bad, socialism, according to Engels, is the first stage of communism, The Dictatorship of the Proletariets, without it, communism is impossible. By the way, you really need to read the Manifesto before you go off on rants like this. Besides, communism has been implemented in various communes throughout the world, with good results.
Black Jack wrote:You beat me to it![]()
Watch toddlers at play sometime.
You will see greed and avarice at its best/worse.
It's Iroquois, and was, as the name says, a confederation of different tribes, including the Seneca, Mohawn, Oneida, Cayuga, and Onondaga.areon wrote:As I suggested read on some people like the Iroqouis(sp?) Confederation.[
Sort of true, but it was hardly an entirely peaceful union. There is a reason they put up a very significant fight against whites. They were constantly battling other groups.areon wrote: They controlled a lot of territory and were stable until introduced to Western powers.
That you would tie these with the Iroquois rather means you don't know all that much about them.areon wrote: Some others are the tribes that have the bastardized names like Pueblo and Sioux.
It is true that we could learn a fair amount from Native Tribes, but peace is not necessarily what we would learn. Those cultures have been rather idolized in history. There is absolutely a lot we can learn about many things. Diet, crops, ways of dealing with nature. The general concept of considering future consequences. However, idolizing any people is a mistake.areon wrote: Their are so many other examples that I'm sure that mankind as a whole could learn from. Just remember that people aren't evil or greedy automatically and shouldn't be judged either. It's hard to see this atmosphere when we are brought up to thrive in it and to not question it either. Yes, 'modernized' nations have technology, medicine, and affluent luxuries to live in. But why is there such a high percentage of people who have to suffer to make this system work? My last point is that while Natives would commonly fall and embrace drugs, new behaviours, or weapons from us when contact is made, very few of them immediately want to move into the western fold. It takes time to 'civilize' them and convince them that our way of life is better. Their might be a reason for this other than the condenscending answer of "They are too stubborn and ignorant to accept our superior ways."
Actually, social Darwinism was the idea that the groups that are more successful, specifically whites (by the precepts of the time), was because they were genetically superior. It further is tied to eugenics, the idea that certain traits should be weeded out of society for the good of all.Famous Agent wrote:Social Darwinism isnt something that you are "for" or not. Just like you cant be "for" evolution because its a proven fact (Lets just leave that debate for now). Social darwinism, in essence, is the belief that the rich will push the poor off (not intentionaly) as to control the population. It is more like the pessimistic little brother to some of the beliefs held true in capitalism.
True. For all we disparage Cuba, many people who live there are actually quite happy and do live better than other south American Nations.Juan_Bottom wrote:Cuba has a life expectancy greater than the US. So there's something to say for it.