World War II

everywhere116 · Post by **everywhere116** » Wed Feb 28, 2007 7:53 pm

was I right?

war_bloodline · Post by **war_bloodline** » Wed Feb 28, 2007 7:54 pm

No, it was not there.

kcoenich · Post by **kcoenich** » Wed Feb 28, 2007 8:08 pm

what would of happend if d-day never happend or happend later then it did?

the same result... Hitler commited his fatal error invading Russia

what wwould of happend if the ships in pearl harbour were ready to fight the japanese planes?

complete victory for USA, the japanese were ready to fight under the surprise factor, not otherwise. Equally the result was a complete strategy failure for the japanese...

war_bloodline · Post by **war_bloodline** » Wed Feb 28, 2007 8:12 pm

what wwould of happend if the ships in pearl harbour were ready to fight the japanese planes?

kcoenich wrote

complete victory for USA, the japanese were ready to fight under the surprise factor, not otherwise. Equally the result was a complete strategy failure for the japanese...

Very good point.

Blueoctober · Post by **Blueoctober** » Wed Feb 28, 2007 9:01 pm

lord twiggy1 wrote:
Blueoctober wrote:
kcoenich wrote:I just know that the german invation to Russia was the biggest invation in history... over 3,000,000 soldiers and near 78 divisions of tanks crossed the border in that invation...

with the parachute theme, Germans tried it on Sicily before the americans, but it was a total failure, because of that they didn`t wanted to repeat that practice...

why woudl the germans invade scicily? its owned by italy. italy+germany=aixs

not compleatly true. the italians joind the axis after sicily i belive

no the itailins were in the aixs from the begining actually mussolini was the one whoc alled it the axis

Blueoctober · Post by **Blueoctober** » Wed Feb 28, 2007 9:03 pm

oh i forgot when the germans stormed the belgium fortress they used parachutes to land on the roof

dcowboys055 · Post by **dcowboys055** » Wed Feb 28, 2007 9:04 pm

blitzkreig!

Blueoctober · Post by **Blueoctober** » Wed Feb 28, 2007 9:05 pm

thats with tanks and motorized infantry

war_bloodline · Post by **war_bloodline** » Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:49 pm

Also when the Germans started there attack on Poland they used an air drop to hold the Pols from behind there own lines.
After the drop, the tanks came in to break the main line as the paratroops held the renforcments.
The forces I remember the Polish Forces were set in clumps (ex: Krakow Army, and Poznan Army, and Prusy Group and a few more) due to that they were easy to break.

war_bloodline · Post by **war_bloodline** » Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:51 pm

OK, my question must have been...
1. really hard or
2. really dumb to everyone.

areon · Post by **areon** » Thu Mar 01, 2007 12:50 am

Actually Poland crumbled because of the Soviet attack from the East. If they hadn't helped then Poland would have been in a position to mount a defense with help from the West. The German army at that time wasn't ready for an extensive campaign and gambled heavily on the Allies not attacking Germany.

Nobunaga · Post by **Nobunaga** » Thu Mar 01, 2007 7:52 am

... I'm a fan of Erwin Rommel, and of the British 7th Armored Division that fought against him in Egypt.

... am I being irrelevant? Sorry.

dcowboys055 · Post by **dcowboys055** » Thu Mar 01, 2007 8:22 am

Blueoctober wrote:thats with tanks and motorized infantry

and dropped paratroopers behind enemy lines to catch em on the way back

dcowboys055 · Post by **dcowboys055** » Thu Mar 01, 2007 8:23 am

Nobunaga wrote:... I'm a fan of Erwin Rommel, and of the British 7th Armored Division that fought against him in Egypt.

... am I being irrelevant? Sorry.

i read a really good book on the war in africa, and later sicily.

war_bloodline · Post by **war_bloodline** » Thu Mar 01, 2007 7:15 pm

I don't know how anyone could have delt with the heat and the sand.

war_bloodline · Post by **war_bloodline** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 1:09 am

You have to hand it to the guys in the Afrika Corp, Rommel's book tells a lot about what he had to deal with and what he did to counter it.

It is a shame he was told to kill himself.

vtmarik · Post by **vtmarik** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 1:10 am

war_bloodline wrote:You have to hand it to the guys in the Afrika Corp, Rommel's book tells a lot about what he had to deal with and what he did to counter it.

It is a shame he was told to kill himself.

Rommel was the man. He's up there with Sun Tzu and George Washington as one of the greatest generals/tacticians/military men ever.

flashleg8 · Post by **flashleg8** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 5:49 am

vtmarik wrote:
war_bloodline wrote:You have to hand it to the guys in the Afrika Corp, Rommel's book tells a lot about what he had to deal with and what he did to counter it.

It is a shame he was told to kill himself.

Rommel was the man. He's up there with Sun Tzu and George Washington as one of the greatest generals/tacticians/military men ever.

Good one!

unriggable · Post by **unriggable** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 6:53 am

GW was without doubt a good tactician, he knew his territory and used it to his advantage.

kcoenich · Post by **kcoenich** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 10:27 am

I have a Question for you...

Who declared war on who to give official beginning on WWII?

Guiscard · Post by **Guiscard** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 10:40 am

Well in Europe it would be the UK, AUstria and New Zealand (I think at the same time) on September 3rd (France a few hours later).

I suppose though it became a world war when war was declared in the east, which would be perhaps America declaring war on Japan at pearl harbour (as china-japan was an undeclared war). The soviets may have declared war on Japan before that, not sure though.

kcoenich · Post by **kcoenich** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 12:02 pm

thats correct, only that France declared at the same time that the UK, they were the leaders of the declaration of war to germany.

Guiscard · Post by **Guiscard** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 12:04 pm

I was under the impression that France declared six hours later.

flashleg8 · Post by **flashleg8** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 12:14 pm

unriggable wrote:GW was without doubt a good tactician, he knew his territory and used it to his advantage.

I wouldn't say he was anywhere near the best though. He made some massive blunders in his time (leading to the capture of New York for example). But I suppose you can't argue with the winners!

got tonkaed · Post by **got tonkaed** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 12:17 pm

Hannibal as a top 5 all time great general ftw!

Roman army was fairly legit at the time and he did a pretty good number vs them for a while.