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I know farming is considered as high ranks bullying new recruits for the little points they can get out of them, but youre only a new recruit for 5games, so the term farming should get a new meaning since high ranks can also farm points from low ranks
as you can see, Ive added a high number of games ... they all are games where alstergren joined a 1v1 game which was made by a low rank(highest rank is a Corporal 1st Class). the rest of his games were all 4players+ or a few 1v1s he made vs a captain ...
this is only from the first page tough ... I didnt bother on checking the 81other pages since there is plenty enough evidence on the first page.
The hunters cant do anything against this, as farming is only considered against new recruits and new recruits only. Check the several C&A threads about Gen.LeeGettinhed. You can join the large population against this type of thing as well, but until there is a definate change in the rules, he's completely within the rules with these games.
xxtig12683xx wrote:yea, my fav part was being in the sewer riding a surfboard and wacking these alien creatures.
Gold Knight wrote:The hunters cant do anything against this, as farming is only considered against new recruits and new recruits only. Check the several C&A threads about Gen.LeeGettinhed. You can join the large population against this type of thing as well, but until there is a definate change in the rules, he's completely within the rules with these games.
he joins games with new recruits in these games ...
and for the first 54game i posted, some of those people could have been new recruits when that game occured ... but these 10games are proof of him farming new recruits
Gold Knight wrote:The hunters cant do anything against this, as farming is only considered against new recruits and new recruits only. Check the several C&A threads about Gen.LeeGettinhed. You can join the large population against this type of thing as well, but until there is a definate change in the rules, he's completely within the rules with these games.
he joins games with new recruits in these games ...
and for the first 54game i posted, some of those people could have been new recruits when that game occured ... but these 10games are proof of him farming new recruits
That list is not enough games to be considered farming here at CC.
I am pretty sure most people join at least 10 games with a NR within 4 months...
**Edit - I checked the first 7-10 games in your list, none were NR's, all just out of the NR stage
Last edited by TheForgivenOne on Sun May 30, 2010 8:06 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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2018-08-09 16:02:06 - Mageplunka69: its jamaica map and TFO that keep me on this site
Gold Knight wrote:The hunters cant do anything against this, as farming is only considered against new recruits and new recruits only. Check the several C&A threads about Gen.LeeGettinhed. You can join the large population against this type of thing as well, but until there is a definate change in the rules, he's completely within the rules with these games.
At 10 pages worth of games, 10 games is not proof of farming.
...I prefer a man who will burn the flag and then wrap himself in the Constitution to a man who will burn the Constitution and then wrap himself in the flag.
TheForgivenOne wrote:**Edit - I checked the first 7-10 games in your list, none were NR's, all just out of the NR stage
See Gen.LeeGettinhed.
Players will continue to play their way around the set rules, and they are still completely within the rules. Unless CC makes a stand and judges farming cases on a case-by-case basis, which would be the only way to truly block those that straddle the rules, then players will always continue these kind of methods.
Im not really sure if people enjoy putting in the effort of finding specific players to complete these tactics, but the point risk they take along with the effort it puts in makes it their choice to do, and more power to them if they truly enjoy winning against lowered competition. But nothing he's doing is against the present rules of CC.
xxtig12683xx wrote:yea, my fav part was being in the sewer riding a surfboard and wacking these alien creatures.
TheForgivenOne wrote:**Edit - I checked the first 7-10 games in your list, none were NR's, all just out of the NR stage
See Gen.LeeGettinhed.
Players will continue to play their way around the set rules, and they are still completely within the rules. Unless CC makes a stand and judges farming cases on a case-by-case basis, which would be the only way to truly block those that straddle the rules, then players will always continue these kind of methods.
Im not really sure if people enjoy putting in the effort of finding specific players to complete these tactics, but the point risk they take along with the effort it puts in makes it their choice to do, and more power to them if they truly enjoy winning against lowered competition. But nothing he's doing is against the present rules of CC.
I know who the man is dude. I've played with him before
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2018-08-09 16:02:06 - Mageplunka69: its jamaica map and TFO that keep me on this site
Im just pointing out that his C&A cases were nearly identical to what we see here, and that he was not and will continue to be safe from rule infractions. No need to get "dude"ly on me, just commenting on the case...
xxtig12683xx wrote:yea, my fav part was being in the sewer riding a surfboard and wacking these alien creatures.
TheForgivenOne wrote:Psh, i'll "dude"ly you whenever i want
But yeah, i bet sooner or later a suggestion is going to be brought up to stop this
Several already have. ConquerClub has made it crystal clear that it is not interested in stopping it.
...I prefer a man who will burn the flag and then wrap himself in the Constitution to a man who will burn the Constitution and then wrap himself in the flag.
after reading all these replies, Ive came to the conclusion that CC doesnt have strict rules for farming, and that everyoen can just go hop on that invisible border ...
as it looks to me, the admins or whoever is assigned on making the rules, should put 'farming' at the rules section as well, so there is a clear border about this and so that abuser can get warned for this type of infraction ...
support81ghent wrote:after reading all these replies, Ive came to the conclusion that CC doesnt have strict rules for farming, and that everyoen can just go hop on that invisible border ...
as it looks to me, the admins or whoever is assigned on making the rules, should put 'farming' at the rules section as well, so there is a clear border about this and so that abuser can get warned for this type of infraction ...
I appreciate what you're saying, but having clear-cut definitions of farming would likely make it easier to evade sanctions.
if there are strict borders on the farming thing, you could evade farming easily ... becuase if you dont trespass the border, you arent farming anymore ...
and as of today, there are no strict borders, so you cant really trespass and certainly cant get sanctioned ...
I think perhaps its the question of exactly how many games constitutes farming.
I myself assume its a few, and not just one in a while, but I dont think an exact definition of farming has been given...though I myself do not think there needs to be one. Im just pointing out that "do not farm" is hardly specific as you said it was.
Some could say joining any games with a new recruit is farming, others 3 games a month, and others 10 a month, or 5% of their games or 20% etc.
I'm Spanking Monkey now....err...I mean I'm a Spanking Monkey now...that shoots milk Too much. I know.
Gold Knight wrote:The hunters cant do anything against this, as farming is only considered against new recruits and new recruits only. Check the several C&A threads about Gen.LeeGettinhed. You can join the large population against this type of thing as well, but until there is a definate change in the rules, he's completely within the rules with these games.
he joins games with new recruits in these games ...
and for the first 54game i posted, some of those people could have been new recruits when that game occured ... but these 10games are proof of him farming new recruits
alstergren ha 8120 completed games so i would not call the sample you bring up here a big portion..
im sure i have 10 games against ?-marks aswell.. they had an awful tendency to join my feudal 4 player sunny adjacent assaingames for a while.. thankfully no more..
do you know how much alstergren would loose if he lost these games.. far worse case of "farming" out there..
