ViperOverLord wrote:We could recoop our costs from the Iraqi people that allowed a gangster murderering thug to trifle with us.
Please explain how it was that this 'gangster murdering thug' trifled with us. I do not seem to recall Saddam ever actually trifling with the USA at all.
Also, please give us a brief recap on how you expected the civilian population of Iraq (who I would remind you were subjected to nerve gas attacks by their rulers on several occasions) to prevent this 'trifling' occuring?
Your thoughts are much valued here and I am keen to hear your views on these issues.
ViperOverLord wrote:I only wish the war was about oil. We could recoop our costs from the Iraqi people that allowed a gangster murderering thug to trifle with us. But we are a compassionate country and are trying to bring them to our level rather than subjigate a people. This is being done no thanks to subversive libs.
I suggest you look into the history behind Saddam Hussein's reign and the Iran-Iraq War. Who supplied the Iraqis with the most dangerous weapons the United States feared would be used in the First Gulf War and the Second?
Please explain how it was that this 'gangster murdering thug' trifled with us. I do not seem to recall Saddam ever actually trifling with the USA at all.
The "thug" invaded Kuwait. By proxy, Saddam was trifling with us by causing an imbalance in oil prices, but I'm not sure where Viper wants to take this idea
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ViperOverLord wrote:Remember all the verbal GW Bush hating? How could you not? No other man was verbally hated so furiously by so many people in an 8 year span. Jesus might have faced more verbal hate back in the day but even that only lasted 3 years.
Bush was verbally hated something serious. But Obama is really starting to make him look pretty dang good right about now.
Yeah.. if you insist that the right wing agenda was a good thing.
If, on the other hand, you believe in actually doing what people want, he is actually putting steps forward. The problem is actually that he IS doing most of what he said, but not as fully as most hoped, due to all the stonewalling of the right.
Note, I am not saying that I like all he has done, but he is moving in a better direction than Bush ever did.
ViperOverLord wrote:We could recoop our costs from the Iraqi people that allowed a gangster murderering thug to trifle with us.
Please explain how it was that this 'gangster murdering thug' trifled with us. I do not seem to recall Saddam ever actually trifling with the USA at all.
Also, please give us a brief recap on how you expected the civilian population of Iraq (who I would remind you were subjected to nerve gas attacks by their rulers on several occasions) to prevent this 'trifling' occuring?
Your thoughts are much valued here and I am keen to hear your views on these issues.
- Invading Kuwait (Our allie) - Firing missles at our planes (after the war) - Not cooperating with UN inspectors
That's just a few big ones. Do you like to just put your fingers in your ears and go la la la? This is not exactly groundbreaking.
ViperOverLord wrote:Remember all the verbal GW Bush hating? How could you not? No other man was verbally hated so furiously by so many people in an 8 year span. Jesus might have faced more verbal hate back in the day but even that only lasted 3 years.
Bush was verbally hated something serious. But Obama is really starting to make him look pretty dang good right about now.
Yeah.. if you insist that the right wing agenda was a good thing.
If, on the other hand, you believe in actually doing what people want, he is actually putting steps forward. The problem is actually that he IS doing most of what he said, but not as fully as most hoped, due to all the stonewalling of the right.
Note, I am not saying that I like all he has done, but he is moving in a better direction than Bush ever did.
Leaving your right/left junk out of it I'll agree that Obama is who I expected him to be. But he is certainly coming up short in a lot of areas he promised, including not being racial and improving the economy. Those are two things that he cannot blame on the Republicans.
thegreekdog wrote:(1) If the war in Iraq was about oil, would you expect oil prices to decrease? Because they really aren't. Maybe it was meant to be about oil, but it's not resulting in me getting cheaper gasoline. This is neither here nor there, but I wonder how much a gallon of Coca-Cola costs? Probably more than a gallon of gasoline.
I only wish the war was about oil. We could recoop our costs from the Iraqi people that allowed a gangster murderering thug to trifle with us. But we are a compassionate country and are trying to bring them to our level rather than subjigate a people. This is being done no thanks to subversive libs.
Instead of trying to rebuild the country, you want us to "subjigate" Iraq?
thegreekdog wrote:(1) If the war in Iraq was about oil, would you expect oil prices to decrease? Because they really aren't. Maybe it was meant to be about oil, but it's not resulting in me getting cheaper gasoline. This is neither here nor there, but I wonder how much a gallon of Coca-Cola costs? Probably more than a gallon of gasoline.
I only wish the war was about oil. We could recoop our costs from the Iraqi people that allowed a gangster murderering thug to trifle with us. But we are a compassionate country and are trying to bring them to our level rather than subjigate a people. This is being done no thanks to subversive libs.
Wow. You're blaming the people that lived under a brutal dictator for the brutal dictator? You also seem to be suggesting that, following the invasion of their country (justified or otherwise, beneficial or otherwise) we fleece the Iraqis and "subjigate" them. Damn. Most people wouldn't say that even anonymously.
If you read the biography of Sadaam you would know that were it not for the immense amount of corruption that existed in Iraq at the time he murdered the current leadership (as a very young thug btw) then you would know their is plenty of blame and the people of Iraq reaped what they sewed. That does not mean that I do not believe in compassion as I stated and I think it was wise not to punish the younger generation for the mistakes of their fathers. Unfortunately in our country we will be punishing the younger genration with an immense debt and bankruptcy.
thegreekdog wrote:(1) If the war in Iraq was about oil, would you expect oil prices to decrease? Because they really aren't. Maybe it was meant to be about oil, but it's not resulting in me getting cheaper gasoline. This is neither here nor there, but I wonder how much a gallon of Coca-Cola costs? Probably more than a gallon of gasoline.
I only wish the war was about oil. We could recoop our costs from the Iraqi people that allowed a gangster murderering thug to trifle with us. But we are a compassionate country and are trying to bring them to our level rather than subjigate a people. This is being done no thanks to subversive libs.
Instead of trying to rebuild the country, you want us to "subjigate" Iraq?
thegreekdog wrote:(1) If the war in Iraq was about oil, would you expect oil prices to decrease? Because they really aren't. Maybe it was meant to be about oil, but it's not resulting in me getting cheaper gasoline. This is neither here nor there, but I wonder how much a gallon of Coca-Cola costs? Probably more than a gallon of gasoline.
I only wish the war was about oil. We could recoop our costs from the Iraqi people that allowed a gangster murderering thug to trifle with us. But we are a compassionate country and are trying to bring them to our level rather than subjigate a people. This is being done no thanks to subversive libs.
Instead of trying to rebuild the country, you want us to "subjigate" Iraq?
Holy shit.
I think you need to read that again.
Sooo looking into your views and tone was a stretch, obviously…
ViperOverLord wrote:- Invading Kuwait (Our allie) - Firing missles at our planes (after the war) - Not cooperating with UN inspectors
Don't forget about the whole plotting to kill a sitting US president thing...
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I only wish the war was about oil. We could recoop our costs from the Iraqi people that allowed a gangster murderering thug to trifle with us. But we are a compassionate country and are trying to bring them to our level rather than subjigate a people. This is being done no thanks to subversive libs.
Instead of trying to rebuild the country, you want us to "subjigate" Iraq?
Holy shit.
I think you need to read that again.
Sooo looking into your views and tone was a stretch, obviously…
In fairness, he did specifically say "rather than subjigate a people".
...I prefer a man who will burn the flag and then wrap himself in the Constitution to a man who will burn the Constitution and then wrap himself in the flag.
Spazz Arcane wrote:If birds could swim and fish could fly I would awaken in the morning to the sturgeons cry. If fish could fly and birds could swim I'd still use worms to fish for them.
GabonX wrote:Don't forget about the whole plotting to kill a sitting US president thing...
Ahhh yes, the old 'entertaining a spurious conspiracy that did not manifest in action' wheeze... that's a clear case of trifling!
It wasn't a conspiracy you gutless wonder. We know exactly what went down and why it failed.
Also to be more specific Bush was no longer president (it was a year or two after) and Clinton was such a partisan that he didn't do jack crap about it. For that matter he was the most spineless president ever (Blackhawk Down / Yugoslavia).
ViperOverLord wrote:We could recoop our costs from the Iraqi people that allowed a gangster murderering thug to trifle with us.
Please explain how it was that this 'gangster murdering thug' trifled with us. I do not seem to recall Saddam ever actually trifling with the USA at all.
Also, please give us a brief recap on how you expected the civilian population of Iraq (who I would remind you were subjected to nerve gas attacks by their rulers on several occasions) to prevent this 'trifling' occuring?
Your thoughts are much valued here and I am keen to hear your views on these issues.
Actually he did trifle with us when he crossed Bush Sr., which is why we set his ass up with Kuwait.
How did he cross him? Well, we set the wanker up in power to offset the radical Shiite influence in Iran. We made him the man in Iraq and evidently he wasn't grateful enough. We already got assraped with that shit by Castro - can't have 2 fooking Castros assraping us at the same time.
Wouldn't be prudent.
Anyhow that's why we took him out - stupid Wog shoulda just done what he was told, amirite?
ViperOverLord wrote:We could recoop our costs from the Iraqi people that allowed a gangster murderering thug to trifle with us.
Please explain how it was that this 'gangster murdering thug' trifled with us. I do not seem to recall Saddam ever actually trifling with the USA at all.
Also, please give us a brief recap on how you expected the civilian population of Iraq (who I would remind you were subjected to nerve gas attacks by their rulers on several occasions) to prevent this 'trifling' occuring?
Your thoughts are much valued here and I am keen to hear your views on these issues.
Actually he did trifle with us when he crossed Bush Sr., which is why we set his ass up with Kuwait.
How did he cross him? Well, we set the wanker up in power to offset the radical Shiite influence in Iran. We made him the man in Iraq and evidently he wasn't grateful enough. We already got assraped with that shit by Castro - can't have 2 fooking Castros assraping us at the same time.
Wouldn't be prudent.
Anyhow that's why we took him out - stupid Wog shoulda just done what he was told, amirite?
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ViperOverLord wrote:It wasn't a conspiracy you gutless wonder.
So, you're saying that he actually managed to kill the President?
This is why I generally won't be bothering to respond to your or any of your fellow troll anymore. You called the plot to kill GB a conspiracy theory and when I tell you your full of crap you pretend that you said something different.
ViperOverLord wrote:This is why I generally won't be bothering to respond to your or any of your fellow troll anymore. You called the plot to kill GB a conspiracy theory and when I tell you your full of crap you pretend that you said something different.
So, still no proof then?
Just a whole lot of angry fists going pudge pudge pudge on your keyboard.
Come on buddy, if you want to prove me wrong then now is the time to do it. Just post some proof and show me the error of my ways! Because, y'know, just yelling "ur teh full crap" at me isn't going to make you look like anything other than a moron.
Obama was in Georgia today. The governor elected to go to a seperate campaign event a hundred miles away! Wow just like Republicans tried to seperate themselves from Bush, Dems are already doing that to Obama!
ViperOverLord wrote:Obama was in Georgia today. The governor elected to go to a seperate campaign event a hundred miles away! Wow just like Republicans tried to seperate themselves from Bush, Dems are already doing that to Obama!
ViperOverLord wrote:Obama was in Georgia today. The governor elected to go to a seperate campaign event a hundred miles away! Wow just like Republicans tried to seperate themselves from Bush, Dems are already doing that to Obama!
a) he's a Republican b) what an insightful point!
He is a 'centrist.' He was a democrat from 1992 to 1998.
ViperOverLord wrote:Obama was in Georgia today. The governor elected to go to a seperate campaign event a hundred miles away! Wow just like Republicans tried to seperate themselves from Bush, Dems are already doing that to Obama!
a) he's a Republican b) what an insightful point!
He is a 'centrist.' He was a democrat from 1992 to 1998.
Actually the Republican governor did show up, so I misheard the story. It was the democratic gubanatorial challenger that decided not to appear with Obama.
Also, several democratic congressmen did not attend for 'various reasons.' I guarantee you that they all would have been there and sniffing his crotch two years ago.
