New Briarsburg Mafia. Town Wins! Ga7 wins the premium prize!

[Mr. Squirrel]

Hopefully Correct Vote Count

jace (4) - freezie, edocsil, stefunny, strike wolf
aage (9) - jace, ga7, fircoal, flores, iliad, flow, spiesr, herk, victor
violet (4) - naxus, aage, violet, /,
saxlad (1) - spiesr

With 28 alive, 15 to lynch

I'm setting a deadline a week from today. Not to be mean, but because I don't want some days to drag on to forever. That makes for a boring game to both player and mod.

[TheSaxlad]

What would you like me to do to prove it to you?

Go read some posts. What's your group name, what's your purpose, what's your role? Or at the very least, stop pretending to be the archangel of Town.

I'm not giving our name. Our purpose is to protect the town. My role would reveal my abilities in detail. If you want non-specific backstory I can give you that. A fishing expidition would only give information to the wrong people. This is not a smart move to try and get me to give you all the information you want. Either you are an extremely stupid townie or an extremely stupid scum. Which one?

Also known as I'm not roleclaiming. All this has done is increase my suspicion of herk.

Fos for now till I have a better chance to read it.

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[ga7]

Public confirmation please Mr S. I have never seen an unlynchable role used that way.

[Stefunny85]

Jeez, 24 hours and I miss a ton >.<

My thoughts. I agree that lynching Vio would end up really telling us nothing other than whether or not she can be lynched. It wouldn't tell us aage's allignment (that he's so reluctant to CONFIRM) and it would potentially end up just wasting another day.
That said I was all for lynching Jace because he seemed to be only posting when he needed to and he had a very bad excuse for his voting like Blake. Now it almost appears he has decided to stop playing. Looks like he has been posting on other forums but not here. I think he needs to be replaced or poked with a long sharp stick.

Also...

Sorry, Strike. I don't think you mean anything scummy by this, but our name gives away everything. I can't do it.

Wait, wait, wait... what? I'm sorry, but this doesn't make any sense - how can you giving away a name of the group give away its members, roles, etc.

As for the last one, I mean, sure, a name could give away his role: say, his group name could be "The Plumbers" and that means he'd also been a plumber, but do we know what plumbers can do? Can they get info someone's house through sewers and then investigate and kill that person off?

That might be true. In that case maybe he's just ashamed of his group name. Or his group name says "Third Party Hell's Angels" or something. Or he's still lying like there's no tomorrow.

No, the group name basically says what our powers are. It's stupid. We are part of the town though. And you are assuming we have a vig in our group. We don't. There are other ways to NK. Think on this and when you realize what our group is, shut the hell up and stop asking questions about it.

I KNOW Herk SAYS he is town but something STILL to think about is maybe he doesn't want to tell you the name of his group because the group is called "THE MAFIA".

Just a thought, it's just what seems to pop out at me.

[aage]

2. Aage and Violet, were you specifically told that your sister is town, or are you assuming?

Why don't you start reading? I already told you thrice we were town.

sure but you are quite reluctant to say "yes the mod said on my role pm that we both were town" please be precise as you can, same to you violet, start to say the truth if you want to keep up your townie credibility.

Please explain to me how I can be more precise than "we are town"? Is there a hidden message in there? Or might I be only telling half of the truth by saying "we are town"? Please do elaborate, please, startle me, do anything. Saying "yeah but ARE YOU TOWN?!?!" every time I say "eh we are town" isn't working.

You guys are nuts, but since I already mentioned that I won't dedicate my time to it any more...

[aage]

Public confirmation please Mr S. I have never seen an unlynchable role used that way.

However much I doubt we'll get that, it would really help indeed. So Mr. S, if you are into public confirmation, please elaborate on unlynchable roles.

[Commander9]

However much I doubt we'll get that, it would really help indeed. So Mr. S, if you are into public confirmation, please elaborate on unlynchable roles.

I'd love to see that as well.

[spiesr]

Please explain to me how I can be more precise than "we are town"? Is there a hidden message in there? Or might I be only telling half of the truth by saying "we are town"? Please do elaborate, please, startle me, do anything. Saying "yeah but ARE YOU TOWN?!?!" every time I say "eh we are town" isn't working.

Aaga, and violet, what is wanted is for you to make one of the following three statements:
1. "My role pm states that my partner is town."
2. "My role pm does not mention my partner's alignment."
3. "My role pm says that I do not know my partner's alignment."

So just pick the applicable statement and say it already.

[Iliad]

Why, thank you.

Yes me and aage are both town aligned. We win the game when all threats to the town have been eliminated. I agree that our role is more like a mason role than a traditional sibling role. But it was squirrels choice, and our role says that we are sisters and town aligned.

I did not exactly say that I was trying to get myself lynched. I stated that I would have preferred to be lynched than another townie. I knew if Aage was lynched, we would be minus two townies now. If I had been lynched, it would have prevented the death of two townies.

Since that was a bit vague could you elaborate: by two townies do you mean daze and aage, or do you die if aage dies?

So of course, I don't want myself to be lynched. But if you think of a best-worst case scenario; it's better for me to be lynched than another townie.

Also I am not attempting to waste the town's time. I actually did think that if i received enough votes for a lynch that we would go to night. And that it would give people a chance to investigate and try to get leads. I don't know for sure- but am somewhat curious what would happen if I was lynched. However I also admit it is a wasted vote if we are trying to find scum, but a useful vote to test out the theory and prevent the death of another townie. So I suggest if you want to test out the theory and see what will happen, keep the vote on me. If you want to go with another player that you think is scummy, vote them.

How is distracting town from a bw to forcing a no lynch, not wasting the town's time? I know you got lynched for advocating no lynch in another game, as you have told us, but I don't think you have understood why no lynch is bad. While investigative roles are useful in finding scum they definitely cannot do that by themselves and we need lynches to find info. I fail to see how forcing a no lynch would've been useful for town and therefore how you were acting in town's favour.
If you wanted to know what happens when you get lynched, why didn't you just ask Squirrell? If you have a question about how your role works, you don't publicly test it out, you ask the mod. I have no interest in testing out the theory, which for you should not be a theory and should be quite clear, especially since that theory will waste us time therefore giving scum more time.

Day 1 yes i was actively trying to save Dazey. I don't know how this made me seem scummy. It was my second game with her, and she was completely different in this one than the last one- and I was pretty sure that she was town. I wanted to save a townie- and of course the fact that we are good friends outside of the game, plus all the real life issues definitely added some vigor to my posts.

You were purposely attaching yourself to someone who many people considered mafia. As I said, if daze did turn out to be a noob mafia we would be lynching you today.

I did not want anyone to know I was unlynchable, especially mafia. Aage was forced to claim, so it came out. I was trying to get a bandwagon on myself going before aage was forced to claim, because I didn't want too much information about our roles to come out.

What? How does that make any sense to you? How does forcing a bandwagon onto yourself which then fails to lynch you not reveal information about your role and out you as an unlynchable? If you are town, you clearly have not thought this through at all.

I do suppose that it gave me a feeling of boldness. I could be a bit more “crazy” then usual.
If you know that you can't be lynched, you feel a bit more "protected" i guess. However at the same time, I did not want anyone besides aage to know. And I figured it could be a very useful ability, if i use it correctly.

If you didn't want anyone to know, why try and attract attention to yourself and make yourself look like scum so town will try and lynch you? My jester theory might be incorrect because oy usimply be a town player who really didn't consider the consequences of her actions.

[Thezzaruz]

The reason I am assuming we don't go into night phase is because in e.g. Sully's game a dead player was lynched and the day kept on going. Since dead players are also unlynchable I figured it'd go the same this game. Might be slightly farfetched logic, but it's what I am assuming.

Very flawed logic. Dead players don't exist and hence any vote on them doesn't really exist either and thus won't provoke anything to happen. Such a situation is very different to an unlynchable player.

hats off to the single most scummiest, far fetched, logically flawed and plain ridiculous statement i have read on this game so far, and believe me, i have read a few.

Tsk tsk, seriously, no one else think that was fishy?

Yea we did. Hate it when someone claims town only to look a look like scum in his subsequent explanations of the claim...

Have to say that the questions posed by Illy and spiesr needs answers.

I'm so glad I ran this game. This is hilarious to watch.

Glad you like it.

[theherkman]

Just a quick question to throw out here.

Isn't the godfather bulletproof?

[theherkman]

Because I am looking back through the last few pages and it seems like Aage might indeed be the Godfather... It is quite possible that they are both mafia and that Vio is unlynchable. Or that Vio is innocent and Aage is the Godfather. I think it would be better to err on the side of caution. If he is indeed the Godfather. I would be willing to accidentally lynch a townie if there is a chance at lynching the Godfather. What do you guys think?

[naxus]

Also...

Sorry, Strike. I don't think you mean anything scummy by this, but our name gives away everything. I can't do it.

Wait, wait, wait... what? I'm sorry, but this doesn't make any sense - how can you giving away a name of the group give away its members, roles, etc.

As for the last one, I mean, sure, a name could give away his role: say, his group name could be "The Plumbers" and that means he'd also been a plumber, but do we know what plumbers can do? Can they get info someone's house through sewers and then investigate and kill that person off?

That might be true. In that case maybe he's just ashamed of his group name. Or his group name says "Third Party Hell's Angels" or something. Or he's still lying like there's no tomorrow.

No, the group name basically says what our powers are. It's stupid. We are part of the town though. And you are assuming we have a vig in our group. We don't. There are other ways to NK. Think on this and when you realize what our group is, shut the hell up and stop asking questions about it.

I KNOW Herk SAYS he is town but something STILL to think about is maybe he doesn't want to tell you the name of his group because the group is called "THE MAFIA".

Just a thought, it's just what seems to pop out at me.

HAve to agree that it seems a little that way. Unless there something wierd like the "Central Agency of Rocket Power"

[naxus]

Unless its a PGO or a revenge mechanism

[strike wolf]

Well herkman already denied it being a PGO

[naxus]

Whats it called if its a bodyguard that kills whoever targeted the person the bodyguards protecting?

[Stefunny85]

I KNOW Herk SAYS he is town but something STILL to think about is maybe he doesn't want to tell you the name of his group because the group is called "THE MAFIA".

Just a thought, it's just what seems to pop out at me.

HAve to agree that it seems a little that way. Unless there something wierd like the "Central Agency of Rocket Power"

Okay but if it was "Central Agency of Rocket Power" How would that give away their roles and abilities?

[naxus]

/sarcasm

[Haggis_McMutton]

Well, if you're still interested, Squirrel actually answered my pm confirming what I already suspected. The votes will be removed and the day will continue. Is it really that odd to believe that would have happened? Apparently my logic is as flawed as the Mod's is..

Given this claim, would it not be wise to test it?

If it indeed happens as aage says, we have a bit more info(though, as has been pointed out, this of course doesn't prove anyone's innocence), if it doesn't work like that and the day ends, we have a pretty damn clear target for tomorrow.

This is assuming squirrel doesn't publicly announce the unlynchable mechanic of course.

[theherkman]

Because I am looking back through the last few pages and it seems like Aage might indeed be the Godfather... It is quite possible that they are both mafia and that Vio is unlynchable. Or that Vio is innocent and Aage is the Godfather. I think it would be better to err on the side of caution. If he is indeed the Godfather. I would be willing to accidentally lynch a townie if there is a chance at lynching the Godfather. What do you guys think?

I'm sorry, I think this is very important. Why is no one responding?

[freezie]

Because I am looking back through the last few pages and it seems like Aage might indeed be the Godfather... It is quite possible that they are both mafia and that Vio is unlynchable. Or that Vio is innocent and Aage is the Godfather. I think it would be better to err on the side of caution. If he is indeed the Godfather. I would be willing to accidentally lynch a townie if there is a chance at lynching the Godfather. What do you guys think?

I'm sorry, I think this is very important. Why is no one responding?

Because it has been pointed out before.

Anyway, interesting claim from Mr, Agee and Vio..Although I barely am buying it. Jace is STILL scumarrining and I won't take my vote off him unless he actually shows up quite soon.

If he does and convince me..My vote's on aage.

[theherkman]

Ok, guys. This is seriously bothering me. If Aage is the Godfather (I think he is), then we will need to lynch him as he can't be NK'd. I really think we need to vote Aage now more than ever. His recent claim has only confirmed my original suspicions.

[Iliad]

Because I am looking back through the last few pages and it seems like Aage might indeed be the Godfather... It is quite possible that they are both mafia and that Vio is unlynchable. Or that Vio is innocent and Aage is the Godfather. I think it would be better to err on the side of caution. If he is indeed the Godfather. I would be willing to accidentally lynch a townie if there is a chance at lynching the Godfather. What do you guys think?

I'm sorry, I think this is very important. Why is no one responding?

Because unlike you, people don't post once an hour. You posted very recently it was only a few hours ago. It's an interesting theory, that fits in with him being bulletproof.

However if he is indeed part of the mafia and his motive was to destroy your group, why would the godfather do it himself? It would be much likelier that an expendable mafia goon would try and destroy your group, if your group is what you're claiming it to be .

[Flow520]

I am leaning toward changing my vote but I don't know that voting a lynch on violet would REALLY tell us anything besides that she may or may not be unlynchable.

But that in itself I think would be worth knowing.

Guys: lynching Vi will not proving that aage is town aligned.
Neither does proving one's innonence prove the others: someone could investigate vi at night, find out she's scum but aage could claim ignorance.

Sure, but it at least would confirm something about Vi...

And if you think about it, why would an unlynchable person if he's town aligned try to get himself lynched. Not only would that waste a great deal's of town's time but it would also out herslef as an unlynchable and expose her to mafia, where she could've remained hidden and been more helpful to town.

But if proved to be unlynchable and pro-town, any half-wit doctor would try to protect this person. theherkman claims to be in a group with this ability.
I say we put two things to the test at once. Prove Vi is town and put theherkman's power team to the test to see if it can save Vi during the night.

According to aage, the day will not end if we check Vi's story.

Have we considered asking Mr.Squirrel what will happen if an unlynchable player is lynched?

I'm sending a PM.

Well, if you're still interested, Squirrel actually answered my pm confirming what I already suspected. The votes will be removed and the day will continue. Is it really that odd to believe that would have happened? Apparently my logic is as flawed as the Mod's is..

And I think Haggis_McMutton's logic below follows beautifully...

Well, if you're still interested, Squirrel actually answered my pm confirming what I already suspected. The votes will be removed and the day will continue. Is it really that odd to believe that would have happened? Apparently my logic is as flawed as the Mod's is..

Given this claim, would it not be wise to test it?

If it indeed happens as aage says, we have a bit more info(though, as has been pointed out, this of course doesn't prove anyone's innocence), if it doesn't work like that and the day ends, we have a pretty damn clear target for tomorrow.

I'm seeing all positives here. If Vi is lying, Vi gets lynched. If Vi is telling the truth, day continues and we lynch someone else, then at night we get to see if theherkman is lying by if Vi survives the night...

[Mr. Squirrel]

Public confirmation please Mr S. I have never seen an unlynchable role used that way.

I cannot give any information on a specific role whether it is in my game or not. I cannot clarify anything that does not relate to your own role. I've never played with an unlynchable townie before so I don't know the way it is generally done.

Day Scene!
New Briarsburg had been visited by none other than the great Frank Sinatra who had been performing over the last few weeks. Unfortunately his life was cut short after a fatal heart attack hit him in his sleep.

Cena-rules: Frank Sinatra - Town ladies man (Roleblocker on women, redirects men) has been modkilled!

Taylor Vincent sat in his lonely rope store. The lynches had been taking too long and no one was buying his rope. In depression, he took his finest rope back to his office and hung himself.

Lalaland: Taylor Vincent - rope salesman survivor (able to change the lynch) has been modkilled!