Conquer Club decides who wins from the start of the game.

[phprogue]

Maybe I'm just too used the board wargames I'm used to playing in which you receive a distinct advantage for attacking with better odds. So when I attack with 5 to 1 odds, I do expect to win with minimal casualties. Unfortunately, that's not how it is when you rely solely on the roll of the dice. Oh well. It is what it is.

[Master Chief]

Jeskier, keep digging, your on to something. We can't speak in a public thread, so meet me at Halloween Hollows on 31st of october 2011. I can't say much now.. but, LackAttack = BIG FOOT + Area 51, might head you in the right direction.
The truth is out there!

That explains all those weird rumors I was hearing about lack...... it all makes sense now!

[jefjef]

No idea what the odds are but lets just say i have more chance winning the lottery

At that rate, a 16 vs 1 would be lost every 47 days. I haven't seen someone else complain about losing 16 vs 1 in at least 47 days so it seems your 16 vs 1 loss was right on schedule!

It's cuz I got tired of bitching about it everyday.

[TA1LGUNN3R]

lol OP I've lost like 15-17 against 1 before in real life with actual dice. It happens. Get over it. That being said, my dice have been favorable as of late.

-TG

[jcalebmoore]

buy the dice hack/fix like the rest of us did when we realized the same thing you just figured out...-the black jesus

I'd feel way too stupid typing lol for reaslies, but I did. For realsies.

[Pedronicus]

agree with OP

I was playing a trips game once where two of the opposition had a strike through on their names on my bob add on after round 2. they were still alive, but they were the first 2 players to be killed.

i have no real evidence for this, but I'm not typing this for a laugh, it really happened.

Site is rigged

[Arama86n]

[natty dread]

It has become very clear that the games in conquer club games are decided not by skill or turns of play but by who conquer club want to win. They say that the dice are totally random by some sort of made up programe but in reality this is bull shit.

Do you have any evidence to back up your claim?

I have lost so many games by the dice for example i had 19 against 2 and lost, i had 16 against 1 and lost, i had 15 against 3 and lost.

If something has a small probability of happening it doesn't mean it never happens.

Lets look at it logically,

Logic is the last thing that your post reminds me of.

go and buy some dice and throw them, i challenge anyone, to get the same results as i have just mentioned.

I challenge you to do it.

You cant. Theres more chane winning the lottery.

Not true.

Conquer club are in full control in the way the games are played and to who wins them.

You know how very young kids act when they lose a board game? They throw a tantrum, shout "it's not fair, I should have won, this game is not fair" and flip the board and throw all the pieces across the room...

Does anyone else see the resemblance?

It has become so unfair, so unrealistic, so frustrating and just total bull shit.

QED.

Is this to protect themselves from getting beaten or to just show that they can do what they want.

This is a false site, with false games and its going nowhere, i have spoken to so many people who are of the same opinion.

You are commiting a logical fallacy called argumentum ad populum. Just because you claim to have spoken to many people who share your opinion doesn't make your opinion more valid.

Also, "false site"? Don't you realize how absurd that is? Why would 10000 people pay yearly to play on a "false" site?

[owenshooter]

agree with OP

I was playing a trips game once where two of the opposition had a strike through on their names on my bob add on after round 2. they were still alive, but they were the first 2 players to be killed.

i have no real evidence for this, but I'm not typing this for a laugh, it really happened.

Site is rigged

soooo, a voluntary add on cheat code was incorrect and this somehow is CC's fault... this thread gets better with every paranoid post...-the black jesus

[natty dread]

agree with OP

I was playing a trips game once where two of the opposition had a strike through on their names on my bob add on after round 2. they were still alive, but they were the first 2 players to be killed.

i have no real evidence for this, but I'm not typing this for a laugh, it really happened.

Site is rigged

soooo, a voluntary add on cheat code was incorrect and this somehow is CC's fault... this thread gets better with every paranoid post...-the black jesus

I think you misunderstand. Pedro is claiming that his BOB somehow "predicted" who the first 2 to get eliminated would be.

Obviously, the more likely explanation is that BOB had a bug and it was a spooky coincidence.

[Evil Semp]

buy the dice hack/fix like the rest of us did when we realized the same thing you just figured out...-the black jesus

You can only get this from one of those infomercials, not available in stores. Have you ever tried finding that infomercial that you wanted, I bet not.

[trapyoung]

buy the dice hack/fix like the rest of us did when we realized the same thing you just figured out...-the black jesus

You can only get this from one of those infomercials, not available in stores. Have you ever tried finding that infomercial that you wanted, I bet not.

Spoken like someone unfamiliar with Bed, Bath and Beyond. The only way to get in that store is to crawl over all that crap from infomercials.

[JESKIER]

WOW, its great to see my thread has struck a chord with some people, to all those who have contacted me privately, thank you and yes i will. To those who disagree with me, take your blinkers off and look at the whole picture.
A challenge for the one who totally disagees with me, send a few emails to certain controllers of conquer club stating what a scam the site is then sit back and watch your luck change for the worse..... im not a rocket scientist, but i do see a formula. (neg coments - neg game = neg luck)
As for throwing tantrums because i lose, your right i am, you can only take so much bull before you must coment about things look at my stats, lose a few games...ok, lose most of your games well, what kind of person are you if you do not make a stand?
Keep the comments and suggestions, it is becoming more fun than the acyual game itself.

[jefjef]

I have lost so many games by the dice for example i had 19 against 2 and lost, i had 16 against 1 and lost, i had 15 against 3 and lost.

If something has a small probability of happening it doesn't mean it never happens.

But it shouldn't always happen either.

[JESKIER]

agree with OP

I was playing a trips game once where two of the opposition had a strike through on their names on my bob add on after round 2. they were still alive, but they were the first 2 players to be killed.

i have no real evidence for this, but I'm not typing this for a laugh, it really happened.

Site is rigged

I have had that happened to me but thought nothing of it until i saw your comment. Plus i just started playing when this happened. Another instance to convince me more about the site. Cheers

[TheForgivenOne]

I didn't know winning 47% of your games is horrible. I must have way worse luck than you if I have a 33% win percentage.

[trapyoung]

JESKIER, quit playing shit settings. 1v1s let the dice outwit strategy constantly, play a team game and you reduce the odds of that happening. Quit playing maps where small bonuses can be dropped like Classic. Maybe you should not attack with 3v2 odds, maybe you should not leave singles everywhere and leave power 2's. Everyone has a reason why they're not the problem, sure the dice are streaky and can screw you horribly - I've been on the wrong side of a 19v5 and even a 18v2 before, but you need to put yourself in a good position still. Quit making excuses and quit overestimating the supreme manipulative power of the programmers. I highly doubt that you complaining publicly has made lack alter the XML code to hurt you even more, but judging from your temper tantrum and 'woe is me' attitude, I am fairly certain you've probably lost your cool in games after a poor dice roll and done something stupid to exacerbate the situation.

[JESKIER]

[quote="trapyoung"]JESKIER, quit playing shit settings. 1v1s let the dice outwit strategy constantly, play a team game and you reduce the odds of that happening. Quit playing maps where small bonuses can be dropped like Classic. Maybe you should not attack with 3v2 odds, maybe you should not leave singles everywhere and leave power 2's. Everyone has a reason why they're not the problem, sure the dice are streaky and can screw you horribly - I've been on the wrong side of a 19v5 and even a 18v2 before, but you need to put yourself in a good position still. Quit making excuses and quit overestimating the supreme manipulative power of the programmers. I highly doubt that you complaining publicly has made lack alter the XML code to hurt you even more, but judging from your temper tantrum and 'woe is me' attitude, I am fairly certain you've probably lost your cool in games after a poor dice roll and done something stupid to exacerbate the situation.[/quote]

You may have a point in somethings that you have said. But i still reserve my judgement. Yes some of the game loses are down to me when i have just lost 1 16 to 1 dice roll, who wouldnt be slightly angry, but to see it happen so many times in so few games, you have to start to question things. Lets see how it goes

[TheForgivenOne]

My worse loss was an 11v1. <----- Was done on CC and in real life. Except in real life I was the one who beat 11 with my 1. And if you are getting pissed over an internet game (Okay... I know we all do), maybe you shouldn't take it so serious? Enjoy the wins, forget the losses.

[trapyoung]

Complaining that the dice are streaky, poorly programmed, or skewed is quite a different accusation than the site pre-determining the outcome of matches.

Do I think the dice script has problems? Absolutely, if I ran things I would have a program randomize an equal number of each potential dice outcome and then take outcomes from the script for the result. Instead, the site runs it from a pure random script so it is possible an entire script drawn from is all 6's so every roll would be a 6. People claim they want randomness (the latter), but in actuality I think they'd prefer reasoned randomness (the former).

[natty dread]

No, I wouldn't want "reasoned randomness". Dices are supposed to be random. That's the way they are in real life and that's the way they should be in CC, as they are.

[trapyoung]

Well in real life the dice results are drawn from an infinite number of rolls, but the website used is finite so if the sample size is skewed, the results are skewed. After an infinite number of rolls, we would expect to see 1/6 of each number hit, but if you allow limited sample sizes which skew towards any number, then the defender is favored and because there is not an infinite number to extrapolate the results towards, then the results are skewed. "Reasoned randomness" would allow for a 19 to lose to a 2, but would do it in the actually infinite sample's predictions.

[Blitzaholic]

Conquer club are in full control in the way the games are played and to who wins them.

if that was the case I would never lose.


fact is, I lost over a few thousand, and I thought CC liked me.

[Woodruff]

A challenge for the one who totally disagees with me, send a few emails to certain controllers of conquer club stating what a scam the site is then sit back and watch your luck change for the worse..... im not a rocket scientist, but i do see a formula. (neg coments - neg game = neg luck)

No, you're not a rocket scientist...because you're too busy being a raving paranoiac.

[legionbuck]

I don't know if the outcome is "pre-determined"....but it sure looks damned suspicious when the "adjusted dice" are so unrealistic, and the higher ranked players seem to have the advantage most of the time. Checked my win / loss chart, and since the "adjusted dice" went into play...IT SUCKS !

There have been many instances of BS results in "dice" rolls, team play deadbeating that leads to unfair advantages, and deadbeating cheaters getting points after being kicked out of a game AND CC...enough to have me consider dropping my premium status. Been in CC as a member of the Class of 2006, so NO , I'm not some whiney noob ! Either this "adjusted dice" crap gets repaired, and deadbeating issues are dealt with, or it's time to quit paying for a game that appears to be rigged.