San Francisco Mafia- Aage, Safari and Kernov Win!!!

[Mass Miracle]

What are the theories as to what the 7 remaining players are? I think all the prisoners are dead so that just leaves town and mafia. So what do we think are the numbers of each?

[Gabriel13]

What are the theories as to what the 7 remaining players are? I think all the prisoners are dead so that just leaves town and mafia. So what do we think are the numbers of each?

I think there's only 2 Mafia left.

[Gabriel13]

And also, the reason I haven't posted in a while is because I'm very sick, and I couldn't check this until now.

[Gabriel13]

And one more thing. Flow Kernov's right. Why would you tell everyone to vote me, but then not vote for me yourself? I'm just confused by that.

[safariguy5]

Flow, if you really wanted to pick someone out and go after them, you should be voting instead of staying on the fence about it. No votes means the day cannot proceed.

unvote vote Flow

[Flow520]

Sorry about that everyone. I thought I had voted.
Vote Gabriel13
I'll trust everyone to read my previous argument and not see this as an OMGUS vote.

[VioIet]

Vote Count


Gabe (1): Flow
Flow (2): kernov, safari

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

[kernov]

Can someone give another vote to flow, just to get him to claim after all it was his idea.

[Flow520]

Why not Gabriel? He's been skimming and lurking the whole game.

Conclusion: safariguy thinks it's a good idea to vote for Gabriel.

Agreed.

Vote Gabriel come on Gabs let us know what youve got!

Conclusion: kernov thinks it's a good idea to vote for Gabriel.

unvote , Vote Flow

I voted Gab As Flow suggested trying to get Gab and mass to claim under some pressure, not a bad idea even tho Flow omitted himself from that list.

I suggested Gabriel OR mass miracle. It was safariguy who picked Gabriel and kernov who agreed and placed a vote.
I thought I had put a vote in for Gabriel, but even if I had not, voting for Flow for lack of a vote on Gabriel doesnt make any sense because Flow didnt pick Gabriel as the one to force a claim out of...

[kernov]

I wouldn worry Flow im sure no one left playing (except scum) want a hammer. I thought as someone suggested we apply some pressure to you , Gab and Mass to get a claim. If you state your claim now i will unvote.

[Flow520]

I wouldn worry Flow im sure no one left playing (except scum) want a hammer. I thought as someone suggested we apply some pressure to you , Gab and Mass to get a claim. If you state your claim now i will unvote.

I've said this before, but to give out my role information would reduce town's chances of winning. I want town to win, so I am not going to roleclaim.

[kernov]

I wouldn worry Flow im sure no one left playing (except scum) want a hammer. I thought as someone suggested we apply some pressure to you , Gab and Mass to get a claim. If you state your claim now i will unvote.

I've said this before, but to give out my role information would reduce town's chances of winning. I want town to win, so I am not going to roleclaim.

Ah i see you want Gab and Masses role but you wont give yours

Lets see how the votes go then...

[safariguy5]

If we don't get some more activity, I might just go with Gabriel. Although honestly, I think Flow, Gab and Mass should all claim as they're the only ones not cleared by aage.

[Flow520]

If we don't get some more activity, I might just go with Gabriel. Although honestly, I think Flow, Gab and Mass should all claim as they're the only ones not cleared by aage.

This was Aage's post:

Since there probably only is "real" mafia left in this town I think I'll claim my role.

I am a role cop. The best one out there. I can see someone's name, alignment and powers.

Alive Players
1. Fircoal replaced by safariguy
2. JudahsLion
3. Aage
4. Flow520
5. Gabriel13
6. kernov
7. mass miracle

Of all these players, I haven´t investigated

1) Flow520
2) Gabriel13
3) kernov
4) mass miracle

so I would be interested in hearing claims from these people.



Also, Edoc, nice play still :p

I dont see it clearing kernov...

[kernov]

Maybe if you took more notice of the game a few days ago you would have understood my claim is pretty secure. Remember 2 players know im telling the truth, one player has already stated they are not one of my lovers that narrows it down a bit further.

Its quite scummy hunting me at the moment btw as the mafia know the only way to kill me at the moment is by lynch.

[Flow520]

Maybe if you took more notice of the game a few days ago you would have understood my claim is pretty secure. Remember 2 players know im telling the truth, one player has already stated they are not one of my lovers that narrows it down a bit further.

Its quite scummy hunting me at the moment btw as the mafia know the only way to kill me at the moment is by lynch.

Yeah, kernov should check back also because Flow was part of pointing this out as few days ago...

I am now convinced the chosen lovers by cupid are not told who they are. This leads me back to Daze and Victor Who said they Where chosen by Sens. Also Sens did turn on one of them, i think he new but didnt want to say as there story was helping him.

So, we know that Daze and Victor were lovers (now dead). We also know that they were chosen by Sens (also dead).
Basically, if Kernov is a cupid, there are two people alive who can support this...
(Note: I am not one of them.)
If enough people can declare they are not a lover, we can determine if Kernov is lying or not.
Seems a pretty simple to me.

Also, Flow is not "hunting" kernov.
Safariguy5 indirectly stated that Aage had cleared kernov. See quote restated quote below:

If we don't get some more activity, I might just go with Gabriel. Although honestly, I think Flow, Gab and Mass should all claim as they're the only ones not cleared by aage.

Flow quoted Aage to show that Aage had not cleared kernov. Mainly, this part:

Of all these players, I haven´t investigated

1) Flow520
2) Gabriel13
3) kernov
4) mass miracle

Personally, I don't like when someone takes things out of context to try and make someone else appear scummy...

[Flow520]

EBWOP:
Somehow that last quote displayed the incorrect author. Aage is the author. See below.

Of all these players, I haven´t investigated

1) Flow520
2) Gabriel13
3) kernov
4) mass miracle

[Mass Miracle]

I wouldn worry Flow im sure no one left playing (except scum) want a hammer. I thought as someone suggested we apply some pressure to you , Gab and Mass to get a claim. If you state your claim now i will unvote.

I've said this before, but to give out my role information would reduce town's chances of winning. I want town to win, so I am not going to roleclaim.

Ah i see you want Gab and Masses role but you wont give yours

Lets see how the votes go then...

Lets hear it Flow....you're calling us out, but we don't hear too much from you. I would like to hear your role...in the meantime
VOTE FLOW

[Flow520]

Doh, L-1. What a surprise...
Oh, seems now I'm just waiting for the hammer.
Cant anyone see this is exactly what scum wants?
Town needs to be looking in other places.
Or, we can just go blindly into this lynch and be sorry about it.
Recall this argument took place many pages ago and the conclusion reached by many was that I was town.

Just let me say that Town doesn't get anything out of this. When I get lynched and turn up town everyone is just going to cite excuses why they thought I looked scummy. Town will loose my night abilities and mafia will have much fun this night...

[Flow520]

And yes, that was a role claim. Hopefully someone who is town and voting for me will unvote now. Or just unvote anyway in case scum figures it out first and drops the hammer.

[VioIet]

Vote Count


Gabe (1): Flow
Flow (3): kernov, safari, mass miracle

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

[kernov]

Doh, L-1. What a surprise...
Oh, seems now I'm just waiting for the hammer.
Cant anyone see this is exactly what scum wants?
Town needs to be looking in other places.
Or, we can just go blindly into this lynch and be sorry about it.
Recall this argument took place many pages ago and the conclusion reached by many was that I was town.

Just let me say that Town doesn't get anything out of this. When I get lynched and turn up town everyone is just going to cite excuses why they thought I looked scummy. Town will loose my night abilities and mafia will have much fun this night...

Flow i think the reason your a L1 is you have handled day 5 very badly.

YOU mentioned applying some pressure to get ppl to claim, i say again your idea, an idea was sure to come back to you. And still you give us the please believe me im town story.
let me remind you what you said on page 54

Well, it was yourself who put together this nice summery. I know it doesn't say that I'm cleared, but it does give the impression that we should be looking other places first. If we dont turn up anything from Gabriel13, or mass miracle, then sure come back to me.

Well instead of coming back to you we started with you , so where is your claim? You now are saying you wont give it but as shown above you have offered it!

Sorry Flow but until u claim im not unvoting, And i really want to because until today i didnt have you down as scum.

[Flow520]

Sorry Flow but until u claim im not unvoting, And i really want to because until today i didnt have you down as scum.

I did claim. Please reread my previous post carefully. As I've said before, my role is much less powerful if scum knows about it. Thus I am making every attempt to let observant town members figure it out.
Just reread this post carefully.

Doh, L-1. What a surprise...
Oh, seems now I'm just waiting for the hammer.
Cant anyone see this is exactly what scum wants?
Town needs to be looking in other places.
Or, we can just go blindly into this lynch and be sorry about it.
Recall this argument took place many pages ago and the conclusion reached by many was that I was town.

Just let me say that Town doesn't get anything out of this. When I get lynched and turn up town everyone is just going to cite excuses why they thought I looked scummy. Town will loose my night abilities and mafia will have much fun this night...

[Gabriel13]

Flow, I'm not getting anything from this claim. Unless you make a real claim, someone's going to vote for you, and it might be me.

[Gabriel13]

Flow, I'm not getting anything from this claim. Unless you make a better claim, someone's going to vote for you, and it might be me.