Post-Apocalyptic Mafia - Town Wins! [Archive]

[Haggis_McMutton]

dude.... if only the giglers had taken some stuff, they could have chilled instead of messing up my carpet ...

[Mr. Squirrel]

sorry guys. My internet has been acting up recently and I'm not sure how much I will be able to go on over the next few days. I will post when I can.

[naxus]

Youd think that the gigglers would be either related to or part of the Insane asylum. Who else laughs when they kill someone

[Commander9]

Youd think that the gigglers would be either related to or part of the Insane asylum. Who else laughs when they kill someone

Watch a Hollywood movie with a bad guy

[Victor Sullivan]

No... NO!!! The Dude always abides! Shut the f*ck up Donny!!!

[TA1LGUNN3R]

No... NO!!! The Dude always abides! Shut the f*ck up Donny!!!

Don't worry, there's a little Lebowski on the way.

I'm going to continue my vote from yesterday: vote Streaker for the same reasons as earlier, plus his overly defensive response to Saf casting a vote on him, going so far as to say that Knox and Saf were helping each other:

I'll try and see if I can find some more evidence to the cooperation between safari and Knox, hoping to better support the case.

He never did vote for Knox, but anyone cautious would do this. All in all, with the revelation that Knox was indeed town, then I think this is the next best case.

-Tails

[VioIet]

Agreed! Agreed!

A loud A loud!!

Vote Streaker

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hmmm yes, it seems knox and saf were helping each other for most of yesterday, which is why I feel safari's actions are all the more incomprehensible, he sticks up for knox, agrees with him says he'll give him the benefit of the doubt, blah blah and so on.

Then knox claims TOWN JOAT and saf responds with this

Yeah, I don't see how that's going to be the power role that decides town victory.

unvote vote knox

What's up with this man? being a jack of all trades suddenly makes him inconvenient to you?
Your post basically says you think he is the power role he claimed, but you hammer him.
He claims a guy with an investigation, but you hammer him without even the passing standard "so what was your action?" that always gives the potential for more info lying or not. Hiding something?
Vote safari FOS streaker, would he be the plausible investigation of knox? If so we may have a more conclusive case since he would have been aware of his alignment before hopping back on the case.

[edocsil]

hmmm yes, it seems knox and saf were helping each other for most of yesterday, which is why I feel safari's actions are all the more incomprehensible, he sticks up for knox, agrees with him says he'll give him the benefit of the doubt, blah blah and so on.

Then knox claims TOWN JOAT and saf responds with this

Yeah, I don't see how that's going to be the power role that decides town victory.

unvote vote knox

What's up with this man? being a jack of all trades suddenly makes him inconvenient to you?
Your post basically says you think he is the power role he claimed, but you hammer him.
He claims a guy with an investigation, but you hammer him without even the passing standard "so what was your action?" that always gives the potential for more info lying or not. Hiding something?
Vote safari FOS streaker, would he be the plausible investigation of knox? If so we may have a more conclusive case since he would have been aware of his alignment before hopping back on the case.

This is far better then the case on streaker. I will FOS Naxus for pressuring a claimed JOAT, putting Dlanor in position to be hammered by the scum/someone who doesn't know what they were doing. I will Vote Safariguy for hammering a claimed JOAT before really giving us a chance to analyze the situation.

[safariguy5]

hmmm yes, it seems knox and saf were helping each other for most of yesterday, which is why I feel safari's actions are all the more incomprehensible, he sticks up for knox, agrees with him says he'll give him the benefit of the doubt, blah blah and so on.

Then knox claims TOWN JOAT and saf responds with this

Yeah, I don't see how that's going to be the power role that decides town victory.

unvote vote knox

What's up with this man? being a jack of all trades suddenly makes him inconvenient to you?
Your post basically says you think he is the power role he claimed, but you hammer him.
He claims a guy with an investigation, but you hammer him without even the passing standard "so what was your action?" that always gives the potential for more info lying or not. Hiding something?
Vote safari FOS streaker, would he be the plausible investigation of knox? If so we may have a more conclusive case since he would have been aware of his alignment before hopping back on the case.

This is far better then the case on streaker. I will FOS Naxus for pressuring a claimed JOAT, putting Dlanor in position to be hammered by the scum/someone who doesn't know what they were doing. I will Vote Safariguy for hammering a claimed JOAT before really giving us a chance to analyze the situation.

Maybe it's because I'm freaking Harris Locke?? And I'm also a Town JOAT with 2 actions a night. And the kicker is that I'm masoned with Mr. Squirrel who can back me up. So naturally, I assumed that there couldn't be two town JOATs and that Knox was lying. That's why I hammered relatively quickly. Besides, it didn't seem like Knox had anything left to explain.

vote streaker

[edocsil]

hmmm yes, it seems knox and saf were helping each other for most of yesterday, which is why I feel safari's actions are all the more incomprehensible, he sticks up for knox, agrees with him says he'll give him the benefit of the doubt, blah blah and so on.

Then knox claims TOWN JOAT and saf responds with this

Yeah, I don't see how that's going to be the power role that decides town victory.

unvote vote knox

What's up with this man? being a jack of all trades suddenly makes him inconvenient to you?
Your post basically says you think he is the power role he claimed, but you hammer him.
He claims a guy with an investigation, but you hammer him without even the passing standard "so what was your action?" that always gives the potential for more info lying or not. Hiding something?
Vote safari FOS streaker, would he be the plausible investigation of knox? If so we may have a more conclusive case since he would have been aware of his alignment before hopping back on the case.

This is far better then the case on streaker. I will FOS Naxus for pressuring a claimed JOAT, putting Dlanor in position to be hammered by the scum/someone who doesn't know what they were doing. I will Vote Safariguy for hammering a claimed JOAT before really giving us a chance to analyze the situation.

Maybe it's because I'm freaking Harris Locke?? And I'm also a Town JOAT with 2 actions a night. And the kicker is that I'm masoned with Mr. Squirrel who can back me up. So naturally, I assumed that there couldn't be two town JOATs and that Knox was lying. That's why I hammered relatively quickly. Besides, it didn't seem like Knox had anything left to explain.

vote streaker

I can see where you are coming from, but perhaps caution next time.

[safariguy5]

I'll also state that, while generally it is bad to lie to the town, that is not always so. Sometimes ploys can be in the towns best interests so long as they are done right .... It's generally a more advanced thing to do, however they can easily go awry if you're not careful.

I agree. I did a ploy at the beginning of resteraunt mafia in order to get discussion going and seeing who would jump and a bad BW. While this was almost identical to what knox claims to have done, I think he is either lying about the ploy, or he took it too far hoping it would catch into a lynch. The difference between the two are that in my resteraunt ploy I dropped some small accusations toward vio, focused on her a lil bit, and then watched as lots of people either jumped on her or defended her. However, once I got an actual lead and before the wagon got out of hand, I stated what I did and drew attention toward the new lead (herk). Vio never got near a lynch (unlike jeraado in this game) and as soon as I had something constructive to add to the town discussion, I shared it so that attention was diverted away from vio and she was not hurt by the original ruse. This ploy by knox (if thats what it really was) went much too far than it should have. I think the only reason knox called it off was because he saw that a strong bunch of us were defending jeraado. If jeraado had been lynched and came up town, it would not have been difficult to drum up support for his lynch tomorrow.

In summary, my thoughts are this:
Knox is either:
A) scum who started a wagon and then called it a ploy in order to save his own skin
B) an overconfident townie who is not quite as experienced at mafia as I thought he was (for letting the ruse go so far)

I'm leaning toward A right now, but I want to see how the discussion turns up before I place my vote anywhere.

Done with this. You clearly can't see the point of a gambit, so I'm not going to argue with you about experience...

I'm claiming a Town JOAT. Do what you all will.

That really seemed like there was nothing else to be said.

[TA1LGUNN3R]

Maybe it's because I'm freaking Harris Locke??

You mean Ash?

Also, if there's two town JOATs then I'm worried about what the scum have for abilities.

-Tails

[Streaker]

The case on safari is obvious.

Vote safari

So you are already claiming JOAT, and that you are masoned? Maybe we should 'call your bluff' and ask MrSquirrell if he will indeed back you up?

[TheSaxlad]

The case on safari is obvious.

Vote safari

So you are already claiming JOAT, and that you are masoned? Maybe we should 'call your bluff' and ask MrSquirrell if he will indeed back you up?

Reading through, I agree vote safari

anything to add squirrel?

[jeraado]

That claim was a bit out of the blue. I think it's pretty much forced a response from squirrel, so I think we should wait to hear from him.

I read back through saf's posts and a couple of things stood out for me:

1) The number of role-speculation posts. It definitely stood out, and seemed on a couple of occasions to be outright fishing

2)

So you're now saying Vio is your buddy? Are you claiming masons now?

At the time I thought the mention of masons was a bit odd, but now that he's claiming to be masoned, it makes sense (given that we would assume there would be only one set of masons in the game)

3)

vote Saxland for not really participating in the game and not contributing to the discussions.

He'd already been revealed as a double-voter and was clearly hampered by the PR, but the vote on him is light and doesn't address the unlikelihood of mafia double-voters

+

iliad hasn't posted in a while.

unvote vote iliad

Iliad had claimed cop, so unless you are going to make a case that it is a fake-claim, you don't vote for a pro-town asset.
One of these votes I would write off as an oversight, but I'm not so sure about 2.

It'd be good to get the mason claim confirmed by mr squirrel. That being said it wont actually tell us for sure whether saf is being truthful (mafia mason/scumbuddies covering for each other) but it would switch the probability back to being pro-town

[TheSaxlad]

Just to note saf claimed town joat in the matrix mafia, same claim twice could be a scumtell.

[edocsil]

Just to note saf claimed town joat in the matrix mafia, same claim twice could be a scumtell.

Unusual if nothing else. Especially for an uncommon role. I will withhold judgment till we hear from Mr. S.

[safariguy5]

Harris Locke has been working restlessly to find what has caused Apocalypse and how to put the end to this horrible sequence which just kept repeating itself. He was almost completely ready for the breakthrough and was about to announce his discoveries to his best friend, but while getting there due to being not exactly normal he missed the shadow and out of the corner, abomination struck. It's claws and a bite hit Harris in the chest and he fell on the ground, his heart pounding quickly and a quick understanding had to came to his mind - "It was time." He was ready to die and just waited for the finishing blow... but it never came. Abomination had struck the protective vest, but when it saw that Harris was not moving anymore, it thought that it's job was finished and it left.

We can agree that if I'm Harris Locke, that the scene implies that I have a mason friend yes? Incidentally, Mr. Squirrel was the one targeted on Night 1 for the kill and his bulletproof vest saved him. I might add that since we now know of the existence of Harris Locke, I challenge someone to counterclaim me.

[edocsil]

Harris Locke has been working restlessly to find what has caused Apocalypse and how to put the end to this horrible sequence which just kept repeating itself. He was almost completely ready for the breakthrough and was about to announce his discoveries to his best friend, but while getting there due to being not exactly normal he missed the shadow and out of the corner, abomination struck. It's claws and a bite hit Harris in the chest and he fell on the ground, his heart pounding quickly and a quick understanding had to came to his mind - "It was time." He was ready to die and just waited for the finishing blow... but it never came. Abomination had struck the protective vest, but when it saw that Harris was not moving anymore, it thought that it's job was finished and it left.

We can agree that if I'm Harris Locke, that the scene implies that I have a mason friend yes? Incidentally, Mr. Squirrel was the one targeted on Night 1 for the kill and his bulletproof vest saved him. I might add that since we now know of the existence of Harris Locke, I challenge someone to counterclaim me.

I would say that is about as clear as it could get, sure doesn't look like you are a bad guy here.

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Who the heck is "Harris Locke"? someone famous or something?
I'm not 100% convinced until someone can tell me why it's a town name, the "Harris" part seems odd considering the known mafia guard was "Haris Pilton" I'm not saying that they are both part of a clone army by Stephen Hawking or something, but still... a bit odd.

Also the flavor seems to indicate some sort of genius or something, his "friend" could be Godfather Stephen Hawking both attempting to "end" the horrible apocalyptic sequence that is the world in the most supervillainish way possible. Once again just flavor speculation, but I'm not sure I'm ever seen a mason-ed, bulletproof, double JOAT in a game before, sorry if I'm a bit suspicious that it's a town role.

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By the way, any relevant investigations so far?

[TheSaxlad]

Harris Locke has been working restlessly to find what has caused Apocalypse and how to put the end to this horrible sequence which just kept repeating itself. He was almost completely ready for the breakthrough and was about to announce his discoveries to his best friend, but while getting there due to being not exactly normal he missed the shadow and out of the corner, abomination struck. It's claws and a bite hit Harris in the chest and he fell on the ground, his heart pounding quickly and a quick understanding had to came to his mind - "It was time." He was ready to die and just waited for the finishing blow... but it never came. Abomination had struck the protective vest, but when it saw that Harris was not moving anymore, it thought that it's job was finished and it left.

We can agree that if I'm Harris Locke, that the scene implies that I have a mason friend yes? Incidentally, Mr. Squirrel was the one targeted on Night 1 for the kill and his bulletproof vest saved him. I might add that since we now know of the existence of Harris Locke, I challenge someone to counterclaim me.

And yourz discoveriez are? If you want us to believez youz, givez us are discoveriez!

Yeahz.

[aage]

Just to note saf claimed town joat in the matrix mafia, same claim twice could be a scumtell.

I don't like this kind of metagaming because I am the only one who knows how truthful Saf is in the other game. I actually hate this so much I might even FoS sax.

[Commander9]

Vote Count:

Streaker (3) - TG, Vio, Safari
Safari (4) - /, Edoc, Streaker, Sax

13 alive, 7 to lynch.