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The place or condition in which the souls of the just are purified after death and before they can enter heaven. They may be purified of the guilt of their venial sins, as in this life, by an act of contrition deriving from charity and performed with the help of grace. This sorrow does not, however, affect the punishment for sins, because in the next world there is no longer any possibility of merit. The souls are certainly purified by atoning for the temporal punishments due to sin by their willing acceptance of suffering imposed by God. The sufferings in purgatory are not the same for all, but proportioned to each person's degree of sinfulness. Moreover, these sufferings can be lessened in duration and intensity through the prayers and good works of the faithful on earth. Nor are the pains incompatible with great peace and joy, since the poor souls deeply love God and are sure they will reach heaven. As members of the Church Suffering, the souls in purgatory can intercede for the persons on earth, who are therefore encouraged to invoke their aid. Purgatory will not continue after the general judgment, but its duration for any particular souls continues until it is free from all guilt and punishment. Immediately on purification the soul is assumed into heaven. (Etym. Latin purgatio, cleansing, purifying.)
It may be important to note that I see no Biblical reference for this...
No Hell doesn't exist. It's just a threat that religion made up to support itself. God is all knowing, all powerful, but he needs donations. All the time. Therefore, he made up hell to get people scared enough to try to buy their way out of it.
shieldgenerator7 wrote:you forgot the option: "No, because God loves you and has forgiven you." and the option: "IDK, it's up to God entirely."
Does God forgive everyone?
What's the point of Hell then?
Choice. What kind of loving person would force you to go his way?
Army of GOD wrote:I thought Purgatory was created so that Jesus and Noah have somewhere to vacation while Moses does his annual rendition of the play "Grease".
If we're talking strictly biblical, then yes. Moses makes a damn fine Travolta.
john9blue wrote:itt: idiots judge an infinite being by their personal standards
Logic dictates that that pretty much always happens.
saxitoxin wrote:Your position is more complex than the federal tax code. As soon as I think I understand it, I find another index of cross-references, exceptions and amendments I have to apply.
Timminz wrote:Yo mama is so classless, she could be a Marxist utopia.
Victor Sullivan wrote:Think of war BBS - are there not just wars, not just causes for killing others?
Please specify what is a just cause for killing others.
john9blue wrote:itt: idiots judge an infinite being by their personal standards
What is an "infinite being"? How exactly does the "infiniteness" manifest itself?
I was going to post something very similar to those two but then I didn't because I thought it would be too predictable.
Best use of "I was going to post something very similar to those two but then I didn't because I thought it would be too predictable" in quite some time.
Victor Sullivan wrote:Think of war BBS - are there not just wars, not just causes for killing others?
Please specify what is a just cause for killing others.
john9blue wrote:itt: idiots judge an infinite being by their personal standards
What is an "infinite being"? How exactly does the "infiniteness" manifest itself?
I was going to post something very similar to those two but then I didn't because I thought it would be too predictable.
Best use of "I was going to post something very similar to those two but then I didn't because I thought it would be too predictable" in quite some time.
Best use of plagiarism in quite some time.
natty_dread wrote:Do ponies have sex?
Army of GOD wrote:the term heterosexual is offensive. I prefer to be called "normal"
Think of war BBS - are there not just wars, not just causes for killing others?
Sure, if you can justify that your God told you to do so, then it works out fine for those destroy people and their wealth.
Nice scapegoatism. I suspect most people think its OK to kill someone trying to kill you/your family/friends, etc.
The trick is whether you limit that to just immediate threats or you perceive some other "extended" issues to be a true threat. Some people consider anything from refusal to allow someone to practice their religion to requirin gyou to accept rules you dislike to percieved threats to your ability to earn a living to be "true threats" just as much as someone holding a knife against their throats.
Think of war BBS - are there not just wars, not just causes for killing others?
Sure, if you can justify that your God told you to do so, then it works out fine for those destroy people and their wealth.
Nice scapegoatism. I suspect most people think its OK to kill someone trying to kill you/your family/friends, etc.
The trick is whether you limit that to just immediate threats or you perceive some other "extended" issues to be a true threat. Some people consider anything from refusal to allow someone to practice their religion to requirin gyou to accept rules you dislike to percieved threats to your ability to earn a living to be "true threats" just as much as someone holding a knife against their throats.
Some people are also retarded. Just throwing that out there, letting the wind take it wherever it blows, and it pretty much blows everwhere there are people.
Think of war BBS - are there not just wars, not just causes for killing others?
Sure, if you can justify that your God told you to do so, then it works out fine for those destroy people and their wealth.
Nice scapegoatism. I suspect most people think its OK to kill someone trying to kill you/your family/friends, etc.
The trick is whether you limit that to just immediate threats or you perceive some other "extended" issues to be a true threat. Some people consider anything from refusal to allow someone to practice their religion to requirin gyou to accept rules you dislike to percieved threats to your ability to earn a living to be "true threats" just as much as someone holding a knife against their throats.
Think of war BBS - are there not just wars, not just causes for killing others?
Sure, if you can justify that your God told you to do so, then it works out fine for those destroy people and their wealth.
Nice scapegoatism. I suspect most people think its OK to kill someone trying to kill you/your family/friends, etc.
The trick is whether you limit that to just immediate threats or you perceive some other "extended" issues to be a true threat. Some people consider anything from refusal to allow someone to practice their religion to requirin gyou to accept rules you dislike to percieved threats to your ability to earn a living to be "true threats" just as much as someone holding a knife against their throats.
Thank you, Captain Obvious.
Player isn't a captain, silly. How about, sergeant self-evident?
BigBallinStalin wrote:Sure, if you can justify that your God told you to do so, then it works out fine for those destroy people and their wealth.
Nice scapegoatism. I suspect most people think its OK to kill someone trying to kill you/your family/friends, etc.
The trick is whether you limit that to just immediate threats or you perceive some other "extended" issues to be a true threat. Some people consider anything from refusal to allow someone to practice their religion to requirin gyou to accept rules you dislike to percieved threats to your ability to earn a living to be "true threats" just as much as someone holding a knife against their throats.
Thank you, Captain Obvious.
Player isn't a captain, silly. How about, sergeant self-evident?
If it is so obvious, then why did both of you take such pains to claim its about God.. not the more general ideas of threats.
BigBallinStalin wrote:Sure, if you can justify that your God told you to do so, then it works out fine for those destroy people and their wealth.
Nice scapegoatism. I suspect most people think its OK to kill someone trying to kill you/your family/friends, etc.
The trick is whether you limit that to just immediate threats or you perceive some other "extended" issues to be a true threat. Some people consider anything from refusal to allow someone to practice their religion to requirin gyou to accept rules you dislike to percieved threats to your ability to earn a living to be "true threats" just as much as someone holding a knife against their throats.
Thank you, Captain Obvious.
Player isn't a captain, silly. How about, sergeant self-evident?
If it is so obvious, then why did both of you take such pains to claim its about God.. not the more general ideas of threats.
There's a time to mess around, and a time to be serious.
You're just full-on serious 100% of the time. It's boring.
BigBallinStalin wrote:Sure, if you can justify that your God told you to do so, then it works out fine for those destroy people and their wealth.
Nice scapegoatism. I suspect most people think its OK to kill someone trying to kill you/your family/friends, etc.
The trick is whether you limit that to just immediate threats or you perceive some other "extended" issues to be a true threat. Some people consider anything from refusal to allow someone to practice their religion to requirin gyou to accept rules you dislike to percieved threats to your ability to earn a living to be "true threats" just as much as someone holding a knife against their throats.
Thank you, Captain Obvious.
Player isn't a captain, silly. How about, sergeant self-evident?
If it is so obvious, then why did both of you take such pains to claim its about God.. not the more general ideas of threats.
I don't think I mentioned God. I'm pretty sure I only implied that you were retarded, but followed that up with a big 'it's ok, you're not the only one' hug, so bygonzies, k?
I don' even know what you guys are a-talkin' 'bout. I am selling stairways to hell though, if you're interested?
