POTC Mafia Game Thread Day 7 Town Win! Premium goes to Sully

[nagerous]

@nag: there are enough people left in the game that the town can afford one more day in the cult battle. We already have a bunch of leads. Right now, as it stands, the town is split on wanting the list and not wanting the list. If we lynch mandy, we get the list and then tomorrow the town doesn't need to be split at all. If you were serious about finding the recruiter you would just tell us who recruited you.

No.. because once we lynch mandy and we have the list what do you think will happen?? We will end up lynching someone off the list and cult have another day to recruit what could potentially be there 6th member giving them a near majority. This night phase will be night 4, with the mandy lynch the cult will then have 5 members and that will make them a very powerful united force. You've shown your true colours and are definitely cult, whether the recruiter or not I cannot be certain.

You NK the mafia, not lynch them....... Falko takes out the first one on the list and if there is another killer they take the second. With any luck both are dead in the morning. Why do you want the scum alive so bad? There are too many scum (5) to have one I don't know about, so what is making you tick?

I'm stating that it is futile to lynch a townie, we need to hit the cult recruiter, that is what's making me tick

[pancakemix]

What nag said. We're in effective LYLO. If you DO want us to lynch Mandy, you'll have to help us find Davy Jones.

[DoomYoshi]

I am not a cult recruit. That makes no sense. I have basically been a non-entity in this game until today. Why would the cult recruit me compared to obviously beneficial roles like falko? Nagerous, however, is a cult recruit. It is WIFOM to say that we would for sure lynch someone on the list tomorrow. With the list out of the way, we wouldn't have to lynch someone on it.

Why are you asserting opinions like they are true? Please provide me evidence of my cultishness, though it is clear you are trying to manipulate the town vote.

Also here is a major WIFOM alert, a defence that you're not a cult member because you've been submarining, cult recruiters RECRUIT submariners, hence people like you and / would be perfect targets for them rather than people who are active. Sure, someone like Falko or even Mandy could be cult too but they are not the cult recruiter which is most likely you or Victor. Personally, I'd like to see either of you lynched today and the other vig killed.

I wasn't submaring. I was catching up on the game and the first two days that I was here went very fast. It was a simple: let's do what edoc says days. I am not trying to 'manipulate' the town vote. I am saying that you are NOT the recruiter and that we can save to kill you until later. With one confirmed cultist, we don't need to lynch you right away - we can focus on other issues. This is exactly why I want the list of mafia - with them confirmed, the pool of available cultists decreases. We don't need to lynch the mafia right away - we can focus on other issues.

If I call you a cultist, and nobody else is listening to me, why do you care if I provide evidence? Trying to find the power roles for the cult probably, but it won't work.

As for the WIFOM claim: admittedly, I haven't played with a cult before. However, it seems that if they were to not be able to recruite mafia, they would want to go with the confirmed town roles before they go with randoms who nobody notices. If someone is a confirmed pro-town hero, that basically screams "cult me, please, on the double". We already have a few pro-town heros out there. That is why I said it is unlikely for the cult to have recruited me.

You fastposted me: Mandy is NOT a townie. We have already confirmed that he AND edoc are third-party.

[mandalorian2298]

DoomYoshi, you have only confirmed that I have a survivor condition as a part of my VC. Other then that, my actions speak for themselves. Speaking of which, I had a delicious idea: Edoc gives us one name and Falko gives him a sword.

[DoomYoshi]

DoomYoshi, you have only confirmed that I have a survivor condition as a part of my VC. Other then that, my actions speak for themselves. Speaking of which, I had a delicious idea: Edoc gives us one name and Falko gives him a sword.

Ah yes, my bad. I just reread that section now.

[strike wolf]

wasted. edoc would obviously use it on you and you would probably survive somehow and then we have to rely on a vig we don't know is out there to aim for the right person.

[nagerous]

Once again Yoshi with the baseless accusations, because I've accused you and exposed you as a hypocrite who is putting a hell of a lot of faith in a guy who has the role mafia traitor and wanting to lynch Captain Jack Sparrow so that your cult can grow..

We don't lynch mandy today, we lynch the cult recruiter? It is a toss up between you and Victor right now but my vote remains on you, I can't justify changing it now with the ridiculous amount of scum tells you are dropping.

[nagerous]

. There are several arguments I have made questioning you actions, answer them.


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Why do you target me and not pancake and strike and even mandy who is essentially agreeing with what I'm thinking right now.

I don't even see any of these arguments you made questioning my actions, please show me where this is.. all I see is one post where you ask what is making me tick..

[DoomYoshi]

Once again Yoshi with the baseless accusations, because I've accused you and exposed you as a hypocrite who is putting a hell of a lot of faith in a guy who has the role mafia traitor and wanting to lynch Captain Jack Sparrow so that your cult can grow..

We don't lynch mandy today, we lynch the cult recruiter? It is a toss up between you and Victor right now but my vote remains on you, I can't justify changing it now with the ridiculous amount of scum tells you are dropping.

What exactly are the scumtells I am dropping? Trusting someone who has proven a major asset to the the town? If you recall, I accused you WAAAY before you accused me. I'm pretty sure my first action in this game was accusing you of being cult. As for evidence, I suggest you stop pushing nag. You should've let it slide when nobody was listening. Now we have a bunch of people reading this diatribe and you can't slip under the radar anymore.

[safariguy5]

Vote Count

Mandy(1)- DoomYoshi
edoc(1)- mandy
Victor(3)- strike, sheep, tails
Com9(1)- freezie
sheep(1)- falko

With 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch.

I go to sleep and wake up finding 3 pages of posts. Nice activity guys.

[nagerous]

Once again Yoshi with the baseless accusations, because I've accused you and exposed you as a hypocrite who is putting a hell of a lot of faith in a guy who has the role mafia traitor and wanting to lynch Captain Jack Sparrow so that your cult can grow..

We don't lynch mandy today, we lynch the cult recruiter? It is a toss up between you and Victor right now but my vote remains on you, I can't justify changing it now with the ridiculous amount of scum tells you are dropping.

What exactly are the scumtells I am dropping? Trusting someone who has proven a major asset to the the town? If you recall, I accused you WAAAY before you accused me. I'm pretty sure my first action in this game was accusing you of being cult. As for evidence, I suggest you stop pushing nag. You should've let it slide when nobody was listening. Now we have a bunch of people reading this diatribe and you can't slip under the radar anymore.

You accused me of being cult because I was apparently pushing towards a mafia lynch which was a complete fabricated LIE as I illustrated by emphasising my actions and now what are you doing?? you are pushing for the lynch of a townie because you trust the mafia traitor - can you not see the massive hypocrisy in this action. I'm not going to let it slide and am very happy for a cop investigating me so I can prove my innocence so you can stop with this deadweight argument.

[DoomYoshi]

I can see the hypocrisy. Edoc convinced me that a deal with him is what the town needs.

[Commander9]

Have a little faith, baby. Also, at this point, I'm not getting NKed just to spite Edoc and all the people out there who think that trusting Scum to do a right thing isn't dumb (side note, were I in Edoc's shoes, I most definitely would give you a fake list after lynching of Jack Sparrow has been done, out of loyality towards my Scum-buddies).

But seriously, keeping Edoc around for free is dumb. Let's have another name in exchange for the Doc protecting him.

Shockingly enough, I somewhat agree with this statement.

So mayhem it will be. Perhaps it will truly show your dubious allegiance.

I think we already know that his only allegiance is himself.

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I can't see any further benefit coming from prioritizing possible recruits, or edoc's win over Davy, it's possible seeing how the movie goes that the whole existing cult problem may resolve itself upon Jones' death. I think the case on Vic is a pretty good scum-tell, it is fairly clear he hasn't been completely paying attention to what is going on.
Vote Victor

[edocsil]

DoomYoshi, you have only confirmed that I have a survivor condition as a part of my VC. Other then that, my actions speak for themselves. Speaking of which, I had a delicious idea: Edoc gives us one name and Falko gives him a sword.

This actually is interesting. Let me get all of this straight. I know the mafia, so I have a better shot of killing culties then the average vig and it is possible I cannot be recruited because of me being scum. This gives a NK to someone who if absolutely nothing else wants Jones dead so you will sell me Mandy. The sword of Falko's is unlimited shots right? Or is it just one? If it is unlimited I could see this being useful. I will target those that I think are likely to be Jones, and once he is dead the deal can be renegotiated, assuming all the requisite players are still around. I would be unwilling to give the last name of the scum without first getting Mandy, because if he would get killed and Jones were to die, I think that would be the end of the game.

Until the event Jones's demise I would play the faithful townie, doing my utmost to find Jones, and I keep the towns protection, and no one would try to hang me in the attempt to squeeze the last name out of me. I would find the deal acceptable.

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There are several arguments I have made questioning you actions, answer them.
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Why do you target me and not pancake and strike and even mandy who is essentially agreeing with what I'm thinking right now.

I don't even see any of these arguments you made questioning my actions, please show me where this is.. all I see is one post where you ask what is making me tick..

Nither Strike or Mandy strike me as Jones, and I haven't anything to throw at PCM.

Here are the 2 I found. I swore there was a third but I couldn't find it. I know it is there, but there are so many pages I can't seem to pull it up. I will concede that point to you because I cannot find it myself.

Any chance of a VC?

It looks like Victor is going to be the best lynch for today and if he comes out as cult or the recruiter then I suggest our vig should take a shot at Doom and get another cultist out the way. As for the mafia situation, I think we may have to pressurise edocsil into giving us more names tomorrow, but the doctor should protect mandy for if mandy dies, edoc is just endgamed and that is a lose-lose situation for the town.

Every time I play with you I can never tell what is the act and what is the real thoughts. Surely you realize by now that I will not give the names because you attempt to hang me. If it comes to that I will keep the names out of spite, because it is highly unlikely that I would win anyways. Here you are, never responding to any of my arguments, attempting to manipulate the day and as well as the docs protects in what will likely be a futile gesture. Making the doc protect Mandy will leave me unguarded to be killed by the mafia, leaving the town nearly outnumbered after the night. There are several arguments I have made questioning you actions, answer them.


Edit before post, Mandy it won't happen as the is little to nothing to guarantee the doc will protect me tonight. I mean to win today, otherwise it will not happen at all.

@nag: there are enough people left in the game that the town can afford one more day in the cult battle. We already have a bunch of leads. Right now, as it stands, the town is split on wanting the list and not wanting the list. If we lynch mandy, we get the list and then tomorrow the town doesn't need to be split at all. If you were serious about finding the recruiter you would just tell us who recruited you.

No.. because once we lynch mandy and we have the list what do you think will happen?? We will end up lynching someone off the list and cult have another day to recruit what could potentially be there 6th member giving them a near majority. This night phase will be night 4, with the mandy lynch the cult will then have 5 members and that will make them a very powerful united force. You've shown your true colours and are definitely cult, whether the recruiter or not I cannot be certain.

You NK the mafia, not lynch them....... Falko takes out the first one on the list and if there is another killer they take the second. With any luck both are dead in the morning. Why do you want the scum alive so bad? There are too many scum (5) to have one I don't know about, so what is making you tick?

[strike wolf]

Regardless of circumstance I don't trust a traitor with a sword.

[edocsil]

Regardless of circumstance I don't trust a traitor with a sword.

No, but to you trust a cult recruit with one either?

[pancakemix]

Edoc, if you have some thoughts about who might be Davy Jones, say so, because unless we find him no deal will go down. Apart from that, I can't see any value from what you're posting. Mandy's lynch simply will not happen at this point.

Victor, I want to hear what you have to say about the case against you at this point. At any rate, Yoshi should probably be NK'd.

[edocsil]

Edoc, if you have some thoughts about who might be Davy Jones, say so, because unless we find him no deal will go down. Apart from that, I can't see any value from what you're posting. Mandy's lynch simply will not happen at this point.

Victor, I want to hear what you have to say about the case against you at this point. At any rate, Yoshi should probably be NK'd.

It's a bit of a change of pace, I really need to look at things from a different light to see if I can ID Jones. Something long will be posted this weekend.

[DoomYoshi]

Victor, I want to hear what you have to say about the case against you at this point. At any rate, Yoshi should probably be NK'd.

Might I ask why you want me to be Night-Killed?

Edoc claimed that it was today or never for Mandy's lynch. The town has called his bluff. Both Mandy and Nag have drawn attention to the fact that he is a Mafia Traitor. Now, edoc's character may be a sniveling waste of life. But edoc, himself, is not. So it DOES make sense to trust edoc as he has to play many games with us in the future. However, edoc has started to appear to waver in his position. Is it now or never? I don't think so as he has already appeared willing to negotiate.

I will point out that I started this day with a vote on Victor. After I thought that edoc was giving up his last chance, I switched. Now I want to switch back again, as I have realized that edoc has no bargaining chip. The town is not going to let him win. However, I know nag's cultbuddies are all ready to jump down my throat the willing I waver in my voting. So I will wait until I here both edoc's new arguments as well as Victor's defense to do anything.

Unvote for now though.

[strike wolf]

Not sure of that's wifom or not but trust edoc because we have to play games with him in the future is a weak argument. Oh whoa is town having two obvious cult to pick from whatever shall we do?

[pancakemix]

Might I ask why you want me to be Night-Killed?

Edoc claimed that it was today or never for Mandy's lynch. The town has called his bluff. Both Mandy and Nag have drawn attention to the fact that he is a Mafia Traitor. Now, edoc's character may be a sniveling waste of life. But edoc, himself, is not. So it DOES make sense to trust edoc as he has to play many games with us in the future. However, edoc has started to appear to waver in his position. Is it now or never? I don't think so as he has already appeared willing to negotiate.

I will point out that I started this day with a vote on Victor. After I thought that edoc was giving up his last chance, I switched. Now I want to switch back again, as I have realized that edoc has no bargaining chip. The town is not going to let him win. However, I know nag's cultbuddies are all ready to jump down my throat the willing I waver in my voting. So I will wait until I here both edoc's new arguments as well as Victor's defense to do anything.

Unvote for now though.

Because you've been making wild accusations about nag and have been suggesting that we let the cult lie, which is a very pro-cult thing to do. If you were to truly have any authority on the matter between you and nag, I would say you'd have to both be cult.

These games are mutually exclusive. What I do in one game has no bearing on another. Secondly, edoc made his now or never offer, but from the start he proved that he was an astute businessman who knows that if he can't get what he wants now, Davy Jones is just as much a threat to him as he is to us. I'm not sure why YOU haven't gotten that.

Finding Jones is his bargaining chip. So for today, Mandy lives. But if Jones hangs Mandy is sure to follow. And as I said, I want you dead because you give baseless accusations of "I know you're cult" in nag's direction. Justify this in any way and perhaps this can get productive.

[DoomYoshi]

I don't understand why people are so obsessed with Justification around here. Anyways, Night 2 Streaker visited Nagerous as did "a shadowy figure". Then we found out Streaker was the mafia godfather and there was no kill that night. I am assuming the shadowy figure was Jones, as the flavour text supports that. There's the proof. Takes the fun out of it, doesn't it?

[nagerous]

Perhaps a doctor protected me? Come on man... that would be why I didn't die. I'm not cult, that I can guarantee.

[pancakemix]

I don't understand why people are so obsessed with Justification around here. Anyways, Night 2 Streaker visited Nagerous as did "a shadowy figure". Then we found out Streaker was the mafia godfather and there was no kill that night. I am assuming the shadowy figure was Jones, as the flavour text supports that. There's the proof. Takes the fun out of it, doesn't it?

Well, speaking in riddles won't get anyone anywhere except you dead. How do you know this?

Nag, Davy Jones comes to people at the brink of death. You're undead, aren't you?