POTC Mafia Game Thread Day 7 Town Win! Premium goes to Sully

[sheepofdumb]

What the hell? First of all, freezie is a liar, scene flavor suggests it's Gibbs, there is no other old man, particularly an old man with a telescope (or whatever the nautical term is). Secondly, why are we all gung-ho about lynching a f*cking town? Town will only gain anything by lynching cult, mafia, or edocsil. If we're lynching Mandy to endgame edocsil, why don't we just lynch edocsil? At any rate, I'll vote nagerous, since he's the scum with the most votes (in this case, cult). Damn right I'm gonna vote for that reason.

-Sully

Did you miss the part where edoc said he would give us the remaining scum in exchange for mandy?

Why don't we just force him to? Threaten to take his life.

You need to go back and read. If Edoc gives up those names he loses, if he dies he loses. If town lynches him town loses because a single mislynch can spell disaster. Lynching Mandy is mutually beneficial. Edoc wins, town has one less mafia and knows who the other two are.

[mandalorian2298]

What the hell? First of all, freezie is a liar, scene flavor suggests it's Gibbs, there is no other old man, particularly an old man with a telescope (or whatever the nautical term is). Secondly, why are we all gung-ho about lynching a f*cking town? Town will only gain anything by lynching cult, mafia, or edocsil. If we're lynching Mandy to endgame edocsil, why don't we just lynch edocsil? At any rate, I'll vote nagerous, since he's the scum with the most votes (in this case, cult). Damn right I'm gonna vote for that reason.

-Sully

On the bright side, now that the whole Cult has voted for me, we know whom to hunt. unvote vote Nagerous

[edocsil]

What the hell? First of all, freezie is a liar, scene flavor suggests it's Gibbs, there is no other old man, particularly an old man with a telescope (or whatever the nautical term is). Secondly, why are we all gung-ho about lynching a f*cking town? Town will only gain anything by lynching cult, mafia, or edocsil. If we're lynching Mandy to endgame edocsil, why don't we just lynch edocsil? At any rate, I'll vote nagerous, since he's the scum with the most votes (in this case, cult). Damn right I'm gonna vote for that reason.

-Sully

He also isn't town, take a look at his win condition if you think for a second that he is town. Sully, this is likely the only path that ends with Tonka NKed, you may wish to follow its course.

[Commander9]

He also isn't town, take a look at his win condition if you think for a second that he is town. Sully, this is likely the only path that ends with Tonka NKed, you may wish to follow its course.

Edoc, if:
1) You help us out to lynch Nag.
2) We kill tonka tonight.
3) There are no sudden game-breaking facts released.

I can promise you that I'm going to vote for Mandy tomorrow.

[Victor Sullivan]

Idk, I see Mandy as more of an asset than edoc's list, tbh. Mandy, could you elaborate on your powers/capabilities?

[Commander9]

Idk, I see Mandy as more of an asset than edoc's list, tbh. Mandy, could you elaborate on your powers/capabilities?

Completely disagree. How can ratting out all of town's enemies (assuming we get the cult) is less important than a 3rd party dude?

[Victor Sullivan]

Idk, I see Mandy as more of an asset than edoc's list, tbh. Mandy, could you elaborate on your powers/capabilities?

Completely disagree. How can ratting out all of town's enemies (assuming we get the cult) is less important than a 3rd party dude?

Mandy never claimed third party. You all just made that assumption from a post of his implying that his win condition may not necessarily coincide with town's.

[sheepofdumb]

If we wait till tomorrow to lynch mandy the mafia will have time to pick off enough townies to win. If we don't kill Jones cult wins. *sigh*

It's in the towns best interest to lynch Mandy for a number of reasons. Many more than lynching nag right now. Unless Jack has something up his sleeve that will make him more useful than -1 mafia and the names of those remaining then his lynch is the towns only hope.

Even if Mandy is town the numbers we've run say that his lynch will result in the most likely town victory.

[Commander9]

Idk, I see Mandy as more of an asset than edoc's list, tbh. Mandy, could you elaborate on your powers/capabilities?

Completely disagree. How can ratting out all of town's enemies (assuming we get the cult) is less important than a 3rd party dude?

Mandy never claimed third party. You all just made that assumption from a post of his implying that his win condition may not necessarily coincide with town's.

Absolutely everything points out to this. Furthermore, he never even denied it. EVEN IF HE WOULD BE PRO-TOWN, I'd still take edoc's offer - what role could be worth the last 2 scum names?

[Commander9]

If we wait till tomorrow to lynch mandy the mafia will have time to pick off enough townies to win. If we don't kill Jones cult wins. *sigh*

It's in the towns best interest to lynch Mandy for a number of reasons. Many more than lynching nag right now. Unless Jack has something up his sleeve that will make him more useful than -1 mafia and the names of those remaining then his lynch is the towns only hope.

Even if Mandy is town the numbers we've run say that his lynch will result in the most likely town victory.

How so? Explain how mafia will have enough kills and how would that number be reduced if we kill Mandy and endgame edoc? It's still going to be 2 (who are also likely without any kills)

[sheepofdumb]

Having analyzed the situation more closely, unvote vote mandy

Lynch Tonka
7:4:3:1
6:2:3:1
5:2:3:1
5:2:2
4:2:2
4:2:1
3:2:1
3:2
3:1

Lynch Freezie
7:4:3:1
7:3:3:1
6:3:3:1
6:3:2
5:3:2
5:3:1
4:3:1
4:3
4:2
4:1

Lynch Mandy
7:4:3:1
7:4:2
6:3:2
6:3:1
5:3:1
5:3
5:2
5:1

This assumes the following:
-All Mafia kills are on town
-If Tonka is not lynched, he is NK'd the following night (tonight)
-If Mandy is not lynched today, he is lynched the following day.
-Edoc tells the truth
-Victor is telling the truth and joins town after Tonka is NK'd
-Falko is removed after Tonka's death
-Mandy is 3rd party and is the only non-cult third party

5:1 town to cult at the end. Plus getting rid of Mandy and Edoc reduces a lot of other variables.

[got tonkaed]

Lynching mandy remains a successful strategy and should continue to be focused on.

[pancakemix]

Oh yeah, one more thing: Tonk probably wants Mandy dead, too. Wasn't that kinda the plot of the second movie or something?

[Commander9]

Oh yeah, one more thing: Tonk probably wants Mandy dead, too. Wasn't that kinda the plot of the second movie or something?

Yes he does - and this another reason why I don't want to kill Mandy tonight. He might be doing this as a WIFOM for us not to lynch Mandy, but I doubt it, so I refuse to vote Mandy today.

[freezie]

First of all, I am not culkt. Victor is downright lying, and I can say I am 98% sure he is either Davy jones or any other recruit, but not bootrap. And he is trying to take me down to protect hiw own damn faction.

Second, if you all willing to lynch mandy instead of cult..whatever. You guys are going the wrong way. But with such spreaded votes we won't get anhywhere, so I will be willing to place that 6th vote on Mandy, if you need someone..

And unlike Victor, I can be trusted with this.

[got tonkaed]

I can outright say, Mandy lynching is good business and does not affect my win condition.

[pancakemix]

Oh yeah, one more thing: Tonk probably wants Mandy dead, too. Wasn't that kinda the plot of the second movie or something?

Yes he does - and this another reason why I don't want to kill Mandy tonight. He might be doing this as a WIFOM for us not to lynch Mandy, but I doubt it, so I refuse to vote Mandy today.

Any of those lynches are good for us say the numbers, so I'll keep my vote where it is for right now as it's heading the nag direction anyway.

That said, considering the fact that you're completely unclaimed and don't want to lynch the guy whose death will reveal the last few mafia names, I wouldn't be surprised if you came up on that list.

[sheepofdumb]

A nag lynch will make the town lose. Town has two VIP's. The death of either one is an automatic loss for the town. Vote Mandy, save the world.

[edocsil]

First of all, I am not culkt. Victor is downright lying, and I can say I am 98% sure he is either Davy jones or any other recruit, but not bootrap. And he is trying to take me down to protect hiw own damn faction.

Second, if you all willing to lynch mandy instead of cult..whatever. You guys are going the wrong way. But with such spreaded votes we won't get anhywhere, so I will be willing to place that 6th vote on Mandy, if you need someone..

And unlike Victor, I can be trusted with this.

We need 1 more, then Strike and I can do the hand off we have worked out. We are both online quite a bit, so at one point when we are both online he will vote and then I will hammer and give the names.

Oh yeah, one more thing: Tonk probably wants Mandy dead, too. Wasn't that kinda the plot of the second movie or something?

I can't recall properly, but Tonka is cult, he wants the name of the scum to kill/hang them just as much as the town.

[sheepofdumb]

First of all, I am not culkt. Victor is downright lying, and I can say I am 98% sure he is either Davy jones or any other recruit, but not bootrap. And he is trying to take me down to protect hiw own damn faction.

Second, if you all willing to lynch mandy instead of cult..whatever. You guys are going the wrong way. But with such spreaded votes we won't get anhywhere, so I will be willing to place that 6th vote on Mandy, if you need someone..

And unlike Victor, I can be trusted with this.

We need 1 more, then Strike and I can do the hand off we have worked out. We are both online quite a bit, so at one point when we are both online he will vote and then I will hammer and give the names.

Oh yeah, one more thing: Tonk probably wants Mandy dead, too. Wasn't that kinda the plot of the second movie or something?

I can't recall properly, but Tonka is cult, he wants the name of the scum to kill/hang them just as much as the town.

More like know who not to recruit. It's worth the trade off if we NK tonk and he turns out recruiter.

[nagerous]

I'm putting my money on / and tailgunner.

[Commander9]

I can outright say, Mandy lynching is good business and does not affect my win condition.

Yes, you're definitely the guy that I'd believe..

Any of those lynches are good for us say the numbers, so I'll keep my vote where it is for right now as it's heading the nag direction anyway.

That said, considering the fact that you're completely unclaimed and don't want to lynch the guy whose death will reveal the last few mafia names, I wouldn't be surprised if you came up on that list.

God damnit people, decide once and for all. At one moment that they're yelling that I'm likely to be cult as I want to lynch a mafia member and another moment they're yelling that I am mafia... *sigh*

A nag lynch will make the town lose. Town has two VIP's. The death of either one is an automatic loss for the town. Vote Mandy, save the world.

We cut down cult's wings now and we vig kill Tonka (I wouldn't be opposed to lynching him now), we still have pretty much same numbers (I don't think mafia have a kill ability anymore, but even if they would, we'd still get them without bigger problems, since we'd have the names).

[pancakemix]

Any of those lynches are good for us say the numbers, so I'll keep my vote where it is for right now as it's heading the nag direction anyway.

That said, considering the fact that you're completely unclaimed and don't want to lynch the guy whose death will reveal the last few mafia names, I wouldn't be surprised if you came up on that list.

God damnit people, decide once and for all. At one moment that they're yelling that I'm likely to be cult as I want to lynch a mafia member and another moment they're yelling that I am mafia... *sigh*

Well, I never accused you of being cult. You can't be anyway because freezie and nag definitely are.

We cut down cult's wings now and we vig kill Tonka (I wouldn't be opposed to lynching him now), we still have pretty much same numbers (I don't think mafia have a kill ability anymore, but even if they would, we'd still get them without bigger problems, since we'd have the names).

Yes, but I prefer a larger margin for error. The more mislynches we have at our disposal, the better.

Why do you think that? Know something we don't?

[Commander9]

Yes, but I prefer a larger margin for error. The more mislynches we have at our disposal, the better.

Why do you think that? Know something we don't?

Why yes I do - I read Night 3's scene

[pancakemix]

Yes, but I prefer a larger margin for error. The more mislynches we have at our disposal, the better.

Why do you think that? Know something we don't?

Why yes I do - I read Night 3's scene

98% chance that's a doc protect by Calypso. Also, 44% of all statistics are random numbers to act as a general indication of likelihood.