Pokemon Endgame: Mafia Victory + jonty

[Rodion]

No town bus driver here to claim?

[DoomYoshi]

14 Alive, 8 to Lynch.

[jonty125]

Activity here is dead, just me, shield and Rodion have posted in the last 24 hours

[Victor Sullivan]

What is there to say? I guess we could point fingers and pick scummy candidates based on evilchaos' death.

-Sully

[jonty125]

What is there to say? I guess we could point fingers and pick scummy candidates based on evilchaos' death.

-Sully

Or we could re-do a joke vote stage and try and pick up voting patterns from there?

[lalaland]

What is there to say? I guess we could point fingers and pick scummy candidates based on evilchaos' death.

-Sully

Or we could re-do a joke vote stage and try and pick up voting patterns from there?

We're on Day 4. There are definitely better ways to pick out suspicious people than joke votes.
FOS jonty

[shieldgenerator7]

What is there to say? I guess we could point fingers and pick scummy candidates based on evilchaos' death.

-Sully

Or we could re-do a joke vote stage and try and pick up voting patterns from there?

We're on Day 4. There are definitely better ways to pick out suspicious people than joke votes.
FOS jonty

but hey, it's a suggestion. I could go back and try to pick out a case, but instead I'll just do a random joke vote on
Vote Shaggy
Let's get this bandwagon going and see what happens.

[Army of GOD]

karp karp, magikarp

*faints*

[lalaland]

What is there to say? I guess we could point fingers and pick scummy candidates based on evilchaos' death.

-Sully

Or we could re-do a joke vote stage and try and pick up voting patterns from there?

We're on Day 4. There are definitely better ways to pick out suspicious people than joke votes.
FOS jonty

but hey, it's a suggestion. I could go back and try to pick out a case, but instead I'll just do a random joke vote on
Vote Shaggy
Let's get this bandwagon going and see what happens.

Are you serious?
vote shieldgenerator you could find useful things but you refuse to so are doing a random vote? really? It looks like you and your scummate jonty are looking for easy random lynches that rarely help town.

[shieldgenerator7]

What is there to say? I guess we could point fingers and pick scummy candidates based on evilchaos' death.

-Sully

Or we could re-do a joke vote stage and try and pick up voting patterns from there?

We're on Day 4. There are definitely better ways to pick out suspicious people than joke votes.
FOS jonty

but hey, it's a suggestion. I could go back and try to pick out a case, but instead I'll just do a random joke vote on
Vote Shaggy
Let's get this bandwagon going and see what happens.

Are you serious?
vote shieldgenerator you could find useful things but you refuse to so are doing a random vote? really? It looks like you and your scummate jonty are looking for easy random lynches that rarely help town.

Well, so far, jonty and I are the most active ones in this thread since the beginning of D1 along with VS and Rodion. Where is everyone? And then we try to get things moving, and you just vote me? I say it's you who's looking for an easy lynch! But your case has already been discussed, so I doubt they'll be much use in voting you.
And yes, the vote on Shaggy was completely random. I can assume tunnel vision and try to make him seem scummy if that will make you feel better.

[Rodion]

Lalaland is the second person that thinks Jonty is scum after he died and flipped town. What's with all the skimming?!

I'd like everyone to post here acknowledging they are not the town busdriver: then we can move on. And if we have a town busdriver, he needs to tell what he did (or, better, who he swapped Kratos with).

I'm not the town busdriver.

[shieldgenerator7]

Lalaland is the second person that thinks Jonty is scum after he died and flipped town. What's with all the skimming?!

I'd like everyone to post here acknowledging they are not the town busdriver: then we can move on. And if we have a town busdriver, he needs to tell what he did (or, better, who he swapped Kratos with).

I'm not the town busdriver.

I am not the town busdriver.

[naxus]

Lalaland is the second person that thinks Jonty is scum after he died and flipped town. What's with all the skimming?!

I'd like everyone to post here acknowledging they are not the town busdriver: then we can move on. And if we have a town busdriver, he needs to tell what he did (or, better, who he swapped Kratos with).

I'm not the town busdriver.

I am not the town busdriver.

I am not the town Busdriver, But I am a cylon...

[lalaland]

Not the town busdriver.

[DoomYoshi]

Vote Count

Shield (1) - Lalaland
Shaggydan (1) - Shieldgenerator7

With 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch.

I will be gone all weekend. Feel free to keep your own vote counts going, but keep in mind that all other vote counts are unofficial.

[freezie]

Lalaland is the second person that thinks Jonty is scum after he died and flipped town. What's with all the skimming?!

This:

Announcement: Jonty125 is replacing Streaker.

Last page.

Doom simply forgot to mention it in the first page. Jonty replaced, and is playing his second life.

[freezie]

EBWOP: Not last page, but page 44. Sorry

[lalaland]

I feel completely justified for FOS those who think joke votes are acceptable on Day 4.

[ShaggyDan]

Well, so far, jonty and I are the most active ones in this thread since the beginning of D1 along with VS and Rodion. Where is everyone? And then we try to get things moving, and you just vote me? I say it's you who's looking for an easy lynch! But your case has already been discussed, so I doubt they'll be much use in voting you.
And yes, the vote on Shaggy was completely random. I can assume tunnel vision and try to make him seem scummy if that will make you feel better.

... *facepalm*.

I'm about to go to work so I don't have time to respond to this in full. But FOS on shield for now (part OMGUS, part bad logic for day 4). Will post when I get back and have a re-read. Although there's not really any links we can get because the only scum we've flipped is a recruited rattata, who may have been recruited during night 3 then killed on night 4... or possibly recruited and killed in the same night?

[Rodion]

I think Rattata was the poisoner that poisoned Oak (Jonty's first life) in N1. I also think he poisoned Magikarp N2 (and AoG died N3).

[jonty125]

I think Rattata was the poisoner that poisoned Oak (Jonty's first life) in N1. I also think he poisoned Magikarp N2 (and AoG died N3).

Maybe has the N1 recruit and that's when he gained his powers.

[ShaggyDan]

I don't think he would have gotten recruited, been given powers, and use them all in one night. More than likely he was a 'wild' (third party) poisoner that got captured. The fact that he could have been recruited on any night makes it tricky in re-reading looking at his posts... because we don't know when he got recruited (or even if he know who his recruiters were).

As for more on Shield; after more thought I don't think it's too scummy a move to start a random vote. Scum would want to prolong silence and keep the town to a no-lynch? Or at the very least keep their nose clean from starting cases? Though then again they would also want to direct a lynch to not hit their scum partners. I don't know... my head is very WIFOM-y about all this. Was their any reason to pick me other than randomness Shield?

If anyone has anymore information about Evilchaos' death and Victor's claim of getting a power (if it is indeed not a town recruit but a scum recruit) or any more info on the bus-driving incident from Night 2 that would be a good lead to go off.

Also does anyone have any thoughts or additions to my flavour spec from page 45? I'm beggining to think with the amount of wild pokemon and poke'balls being given out we may have a few different factions around. Possibly a Gary vs. Ash/town vs. Team Rocket kind of things. With team rocket and ash/town recruiting and Gary being able to NK?

[Rodion]

Not sure about your spec, Shaggy. Right now I'm more worried about the fact that the bus driver is probably anti-town since he hasn't claimed yet, so taking down mafia will get even harder with the possible redirections (I'd have to suggest our vigs not to attempt any NKs). I think we could find the busdriver with a tracker: if a tracker sees someone visited two people, we have the busdriver involved. But odds are not good.

I'll keep thinking. And if we do have a town busdriver that didn't yet read the thread due to inactivity, please claim, as we'd be sure to catch the Water Gun pokémon.

[Fircoal]

Not sure about your spec, Shaggy. Right now I'm more worried about the fact that the bus driver is probably anti-town since he hasn't claimed yet, so taking down mafia will get even harder with the possible redirections (I'd have to suggest our vigs not to attempt any NKs). I think we could find the busdriver with a tracker: if a tracker sees someone visited two people, we have the busdriver involved. But odds are not good.

I'll keep thinking. And if we do have a town busdriver that didn't yet read the thread due to inactivity, please claim, as we'd be sure to catch the Water Gun pokémon.

It's not a bus driver that we have to be worried about it's a thief. I didn't claim because I was hoping the thief would out themself but it appears that they are not of a town faction.

I am the town busdriver. On Night 1 I drove Naggy and Jonty, basically giving me good reason to believe Naggy was town after learning that HE was supposed to be poisoned. But seeing how it could have been a recruit that seems moot. The problem is I got my bike (the tool to bus drive) stolen on Day 2. I have since got it back but I have not done ANY ACTIONS since Night 1. Which means the switch was not my doing...

[Haggis_McMutton]

Okay, my spec on flavour.

Confirmed:

- We have an evil recruiter (as shown by Evilchaos' status on the first page).
- One night kill has been made by a fire pokemon.
- Two night kills have been made by a water pokemon.
- We have someone who is giving out pokeballs (probably the character Kurt).
- Someone is poisoned and will die tonight.
- Both factions can be made of humans and pokemon.

Probable

- With the amount of wil pokemon, we can assume we have a town-side recruiter.
- From the Night 3 scene it looks as if Kratos was busdrived with the water-gunning pokemon.
- People who are given pokeballs can catch pokemon (?).
- Recruited pokemon get powers when captured.
- In the night 3 flavour; "Vengence will be mine." was said by one observer. Not sure what to make of this.

All in all, if I had to guess I would say we have a regular town (with possible recruiting of wilds), a recruiting scum (which recruited the poisoner) and a water-gunning serial killer (something like Blastoise maybe), with maybe another nasty or two added in.

That seems to be about as good a guess as we can make with the available info. Except I kind of doubt there's someone out there who can create recruiters, that seems way too game-breaking. Unless he had some really stringent restrictions I guess.

Not sure about your spec, Shaggy. Right now I'm more worried about the fact that the bus driver is probably anti-town since he hasn't claimed yet, so taking down mafia will get even harder with the possible redirections (I'd have to suggest our vigs not to attempt any NKs). I think we could find the busdriver with a tracker: if a tracker sees someone visited two people, we have the busdriver involved. But odds are not good.

I'll keep thinking. And if we do have a town busdriver that didn't yet read the thread due to inactivity, please claim, as we'd be sure to catch the Water Gun pokémon.

It's not a bus driver that we have to be worried about it's a thief. I didn't claim because I was hoping the thief would out themself but it appears that they are not of a town faction.

I am the town busdriver. On Night 1 I drove Naggy and Jonty, basically giving me good reason to believe Naggy was town after learning that HE was supposed to be poisoned. But seeing how it could have been a recruit that seems moot. The problem is I got my bike (the tool to bus drive) stolen on Day 2. I have since got it back but I have not done ANY ACTIONS since Night 1. Which means the switch was not my doing...

Interesting.
When did you get the bike back?