TRAFALGAR [12.4.2012] QUENCHED (V65)

[MarshalNey]

Actually, I think this map is overall fairly straightforward. However, one thing that did take a bit of puzzling out was the nature of the Lee Line vs. the Weather Line- their location is not labeled anywhere on the map proper, and so must be inferred from the dashed line in the legend. I'd recommend just putting "Lee Line" and "Weather Line" in the unused spaces near the top and bottom.

Other than that, really my only premonition of clarity complaints comes from the duplicate names of the ships. But I guess we have history to thank for that

As for the update, it looks good, as you say the confusion is not really overwhelming when it comes to ship connections and bombardments.

-- Marshal Ney

[cairnswk]

Thanks Marshall Ney.

Actually, I think this map is overall fairly straightforward. However, one thing that did take a bit of puzzling out was the nature of the Lee Line vs. the Weather Line- their location is not labeled anywhere on the map proper, and so must be inferred from the dashed line in the legend. I'd recommend just putting "Lee Line" and "Weather Line" in the unused spaces near the top and bottom.

I'll see if i can move (B) Polyphemus name below it and have those two distinctions next to the stern image.

Other than that, really my only premonition of clarity complaints comes from the duplicate names of the ships. But I guess we have history to thank for that

Confusion in the XML has been overcome with each ship precoded with it's nation
(B) Swiftsure
(F) Swiftsure
(B) Achille
(F) Achille
etc etc.
Each ship will have it's nation code in the xml so that all the british ships will come up together etc.

As for the update, it looks good, as you say the confusion is not really overwhelming when it comes to ship connections and bombardments.
-- Marshal Ney

Thanks. There will be those who disagree, but i think once the initial games are done, there could be some fun on this map for those who enjoy a small challenge.

[Augustus Maximus]

Thanks for posting the 3 seperate national fleet images. Having seen the map seperated in that way adds quite a bit of clarity to the map. When I first saw the map it took some time to study it.

[cairnswk]

Thanks for posting the 3 seperate national fleet images. Having seen the map seperated in that way adds quite a bit of clarity to the map. When I first saw the map it took some time to study it.

No probs Augustus Maximus, thanks for your comments.

[isaiah40]

Okay, if there are no more concerns on this new gameplay issue, or graphics, then I'll leave this for a few days and see if I can find my lil' blue stamp ...

[cairnswk]

Okay, if there are no more concerns on this new gameplay issue, or graphics, then I'll leave this for a few days and see if I can find my lil' blue stamp ...

thanks isaiah40...
in the meantime....below is V55 xml centering.
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[isaiah40]

I just noticed something:

If you notice the subdued symbols seem to go off the "cloth" and into the shadow of the cloth.

[cairnswk]

I just noticed something:

If you notice the subdued symbols seem to go off the "cloth" and into the shadow of the cloth.

thanks Isaiah40
here is V56 with cloth adjusted.

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[isaiah40]

I'm sorry can you scoot Nelson and "The King's Victory" over to the left a few pixels. You don't need to post this minor change until you have any others.

[cairnswk]

I'm sorry can you scoot Nelson and "The King's Victory" over to the left a few pixels. You don't need to post this minor change until you have any others.

no worries Isaiah40, but yes, each update takes about 15-30 minutes to do with importing/exporting/uploading, so i'll wait a while to see if you or anyone else has anything to change.

[Victor Sullivan]

The Fougueux 88s on the small only need to be scooted right 1 px.

-Sully

[cairnswk]

The Fougueux 88s on the small only need to be scooted right 1 px.

-Sully

Thanks Sully, F5 and that should be adjusted in the pics above.

[Victor Sullivan]

The Fougueux 88s on the small only need to be scooted right 1 px.

-Sully

Thanks Sully, F5 and that should be adjusted in the pics above.

Yup, thanks!

-Sully

EDIT: Was I looking at an old image or something?

[cairnswk]

The Fougueux 88s on the small only need to be scooted right 1 px.

-Sully

Thanks Sully, F5 and that should be adjusted in the pics above.

Yup, thanks!

-Sully

EDIT: Was I looking at an old image or something?

No, i just made the correction to V55SXML.jpg, whereas the new image is V56Scd.jpg

[Victor Sullivan]

The Fougueux 88s on the small only need to be scooted right 1 px.

-Sully

Thanks Sully, F5 and that should be adjusted in the pics above.

Yup, thanks!

-Sully

EDIT: Was I looking at an old image or something?

No, i just made the correction to V55SXML.jpg, whereas the new image is V56Scd.jpg

Oh, okay lol. That makes me feel less foolish now

-Sully

[cairnswk]

ON the next version, i have started working on the border rope some more...it is differing in colour in too many places.

The other thing i'd like some opinion on is...since the small map is already at the supersize, what do people think about taking the "England expects,,," flags off the sail, and placing them on the inside of the border left side...would that look out of place, too odd, or is this a good idea.

If possible, does anyone know if the flags are read from top to bottom or bottom to top when arranged on a single rope?

[natty dread]

The other thing i'd like some opinion on is...since the small map is already at the supersize, what do people think about taking the "England expects,,," flags off the sail, and placing them on the inside of the border left side...would that look out of place, too odd, or is this a good idea.

Sounds good to me, make it happen... if it sucks you can always go back to the current version.

[cairnswk]

...Sounds good to me, make it happen... if it sucks you can always go back to the current version.

Thanks natty for replying....I don't know if this works or not, but:
1. have moved those flags down the side and they read from top to bottom
2. Added the dock with cannon and barrels
3. this temp width is now 940pixels wide

Only small version...

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[isaiah40]

Looks good, except for the cannon and dock. They look out of place with the rest of the graphics. I say you can just do without them IMHO. Along the bottom and the left, it looks like on this version the rope border was moved a pixel up and to the right. The little flags down the side look okay to me, so I'd say get the rope fixed, take off the cannon and dock, and let's get this stamped!

[cairnswk]

thanks isaiah40

Looks good, except for the cannon and dock. They look out of place with the rest of the graphics. I say you can just do without them IMHO.

Do they really look out of place or is it just the colour of them and the fact they don't have the same attributes as the ship background.

Along the bottom and the left, it looks like on this version the rope border was moved a pixel up and to the right.

I think i know where you mean, so i'll fix that, that whole background behind the rope has changed.

The little flags down the side look okay to me, so I'd say get the rope fixed, take off the cannon and dock, and let's get this stamped!

the flags still need some touching up and i'm trying to improve the map isaiah40, so the stamping can happen at any time...but thanks for your touch of urgency.

[natty dread]

Hm, the transparent flags look a bit odd. Have you tried making them solid?

[cairnswk]

Hm, the transparent flags look a bit odd. Have you tried making them solid?

thanks Natty
Yes i agree, but they have been worked on.
i simply put them up there in that state to show if they'd work in that position or do thye need to revert back to the sailcloth background.
So, do they work there?

[natty dread]

I think they're ok there.

The cannon and barrels though... they're so dark that they seem to stand out a bit, with the rest of the map being generally light... maybe they could be made a bit lighter?

[cairnswk]

I think they're ok there.

The cannon and barrels though... they're so dark that they seem to stand out a bit, with the rest of the map being generally light... maybe they could be made a bit lighter?

HOw does this look?

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[isaiah40]

YES! Now the cannon and dock fit in IMO. One thing, the text on the sail cloth, what happened to it? It is just a tad unreadable now. Anyhow, I think it is a minor detail so let's get this done.


Congratulations cairnswk!