Zelda Mafia ~ Town Wins! Hyrule is Safe

[killboy108]

QUOTE: by drunkmonkey on Thu Aug 11, 2011 6:33 am

FOS Iliad & killboy. I just went over the thread again - Iliad has yet to post, and killboy only posted once (a joke vote). I'm still learning the ropes, so I'm not sure how to get them involved.

I'm involved drunkmonkey ......

I too am new, so I'm just sitting back trying to read all the copious amount of writing in this thread trying to figure out what makes sense... (I just want to know who's scum so I can see a lynch happen)

Does anyone have an idea on who's suss yet?

[Epitaph1]

FOS Iliad & killboy. I just went over the thread again - Iliad has yet to post, and killboy only posted once (a joke vote). I'm still learning the ropes, so I'm not sure how to get them involved.

I'm fairly certain rds is telling the truth. I think fireside just over-thought the edoc thing, and there's not enough there for me to cast suspicion on him just yet. I'm a little wary of BG, because I don't follow his reasoning of voting rds.

I was thinking along the same lines of putting some pressure on the quieter members of the game. I'm having a hard time finding enough scummy behavior in rds, BG, or DJ to warrant a vote (although I do think their actions and voting deserve the scrutiny they've received).

Because Killboy has given a response to Monkey's post, I'll only FOS Iliad.

[Djfireside]

From what everyone has said I guess I may be running down the wrong path with my thought process and the point by rodion stating that it was after he used the lens that it occurred I will retrack my thought. Ill have to go back to the drawing board

UNVOTE

[drake_259]

well i highly doubt its both of them i'm more leaning towards BG being the scum rather than Djfire due to i'm sure djfire is not dumb enough to bandwagon on that basis.

so my vote goes on Vote: BG.

Huh? If you could explain this vote a little better that would be great.

Although many actions Rds done and blamed them on being new, i do not take into consideration, he shouldn't be using this as an excuse as he has played just the same amount of games as i have if not more, plus i haven't played it in ages. so their is no excuses.

But every thing he has said so far i understand and believe, (if he is a mafia, he is most likely mafia roleblocker, a reason he targeted the bulletproof and another mafia killed him)

but i do not think their is a case currently on rds and you went for him. i choose you rather than djfire as i thought if one of you are mafia it is more likely to be you than djfire due to i thought he would be smarter enough to bandwagon on such little evidence.

However you have explained yourself to me and i happy to Unvote

[shieldgenerator7]

I find BG and DJ's bandwagoning on RDS rather scummy. They don't really say why they're voting rds, and it seems as if they're trying for an easy lynch. However, they can still play the n00b card, and so they do not seem AS scummy.
Unvote rds
Since you've explained your logic I shall unvote you. I still have my suspicions that you may be Maple or the other link, because it sounds like a good fake claim. But then again, you decided to play the n00b card too, and thus it may be improbable that you would come up with something like that.

I do find it funny that Iliad hasn't posted at all yet. Maybe he forgot he was in this game? It seems unlikely he would be inactive.

[Mr. Squirrel]

Vote Count

shield (2) - yoshi, drunk monkey
freezie (1) - victor
fireside (2) - nag, dazza

19 alive, 10 to lynch

Deadline: Monday

[rdsrds2120]

I find BG and DJ's bandwagoning on RDS rather scummy. They don't really say why they're voting rds, and it seems as if they're trying for an easy lynch. However, they can still play the n00b card, and so they do not seem AS scummy.
Unvote rds
Since you've explained your logic I shall unvote you. I still have my suspicions that you may be Maple or the other link, because it sounds like a good fake claim. But then again, you decided to play the n00b card too, and thus it may be improbable that you would come up with something like that.

I do find it funny that Iliad hasn't posted at all yet. Maybe he forgot he was in this game? It seems unlikely he would be inactive.

lol tbh, I have no idea who Maple is. Something about a witch granting an item, right? I think I need a summary sheet for this game!

-rd

[BGtheBrain]

****

[DoomYoshi]

I find BG and DJ's bandwagoning on RDS rather scummy. They don't really say why they're voting rds, and it seems as if they're trying for an easy lynch. However, they can still play the n00b card, and so they do not seem AS scummy.
Unvote rds
Since you've explained your logic I shall unvote you. I still have my suspicions that you may be Maple or the other link, because it sounds like a good fake claim. But then again, you decided to play the n00b card too, and thus it may be improbable that you would come up with something like that.

I do find it funny that Iliad hasn't posted at all yet. Maybe he forgot he was in this game? It seems unlikely he would be inactive.

lol tbh, I have no idea who Maple is. Something about a witch granting an item, right? I think I need a summary sheet for this
-rd

you need a summary sheet for every game. I suggest you google maple zelda and read the Wikipedia post about her. Crazy n00b accusations seem to be flying around everywhere, so I just want to put forth a suggestion. On Day 1, I allow the n00b card to be played and every dy after that, I don't accept it as a defense.

My reason is that n00b scum are just as likely to make mistakes as n00b town, so it really isn't a defense at all. I like to give them the chance to play at least one day, as getting lynched day 1 sucks, and if new players are always getting lynched day 1, they may not enjoy the game. However, eventually enough has to be enough. It has to be shown that mafia is really a game of consequences.

ThT being said, I feel a log of the arguments so far have been a mudslinging match. The rds case seemed the best of them, but many people accept his arguments. What I don't understand is why everyone seemed to target the same player last night.

[Mr. Squirrel]

~48 hours until deadline

[pancakemix]

@Yoshi: Fairly good points. I believe that everyone targeted Hensow last night in order to test his claim. Merely my opinion, but I think that's the best guess we can make.

Since we're going to be forced into a lynch either way, I'd say either of the two with two votes right now ok options, but are less than ideal. This late in the day, I doubt we'll see any other developments though.

[killboy108]

@Yoshi: Fairly good points. I believe that everyone targeted Hensow last night in order to test his claim. Merely my opinion, but I think that's the best guess we can make.

Since we're going to be forced into a lynch either way, I'd say either of the two with two votes right now ok options, but are less than ideal. This late in the day, I doubt we'll see any other developments though.

I don't see any strong evidence that points to anyone being scum at this stage. Since we're forced to make a call I'll vote Shield Generator because he seems to try to cast suspicion on other players as scum more than other people, like when he has a go at BG and others who voted for Rds as though they're scummy for band-wagoning.

[nagerous]

I think he is right in casting suspicions on other players, that is how you play mafia - if everyone was scummy for casting suspicions then we'd all be up for votes.

unvote vote killboy

I feel you are just saying that for voting shield as an excuse to bandwagon him as he is the one with the most votes at the moment. Also, your inactivity and 'sitting back' defence does not wash well with me.

[drake_259]

@Yoshi: Fairly good points. I believe that everyone targeted Hensow last night in order to test his claim. Merely my opinion, but I think that's the best guess we can make.

Since we're going to be forced into a lynch either way, I'd say either of the two with two votes right now ok options, but are less than ideal. This late in the day, I doubt we'll see any other developments though.

I don't see any strong evidence that points to anyone being scum at this stage. Since we're forced to make a call I'll vote Shield Generator because he seems to try to cast suspicion on other players as scum more than other people, like when he has a go at BG and others who voted for Rds as though they're scummy for band-wagoning.

FOS: killboy for casting suspicion on shield
As nag said it is a bandwagon excuse but i can see where your coming from but more worth a FOS than a vote right now i believe.

Also if their is 2 or more players with the same amount of votes at the deadline is that no lynch

[Epitaph1]

Vote Iliad

He/She hasn't posted in this game since the confirm on July 22 (unless I totally messed up my search). I don't know what's up, but let's do him a favor.

There has been some suspicious behavior so far, but not enough for me to cast a vote for anyone else.

[Mr. Squirrel]

Vote Iliad

He/She hasn't posted in this game since the confirm on July 22 (unless I totally messed up my search). I don't know what's up, but let's do him a favor.

There has been some suspicious behavior so far, but not enough for me to cast a vote for anyone else.

I just prodded iliad

[Victor Sullivan]

There's a deadline approaching, and up until killboy's last post, no one looked especially scummy (freezie perhaps a bit).

unvote vote killboy

-Sully

[naxus]

Sorry for falling off the map, various things occurred.

At whoever was confused with maple(Fireside I think) she was a witch who would be flying on her broom and crash into you knocking some of your items and some of her items about the screen. You could go after your stuff or grab hers. She seems like a ability busdriver(which I swear is a real role ive seen somewhere but dont remember)

@Djfireside, Killboy,drake258, and Dazza. Don't play the newb card. Day 1 is usually ok to get by, but playing it everyday no matter the argument makes me want to warrant a vote at you three. For Now ill Vote Killboy and FOS drake259 for skimming.

But every thing he has said so far i understand and believe, (if he is a mafia, he is most likely mafia roleblocker, a reason he targeted the bulletproof and another mafia killed him)

Roleblocker targeted the bulletproof and the Vig killed him

Small FOS on RDS, I believe the lack of targets for roleblocking but still a little convenient that who you RB died. No way to be counterclaimed

[drake_259]

Sorry for falling off the map, various things occurred.

At whoever was confused with maple(Fireside I think) she was a witch who would be flying on her broom and crash into you knocking some of your items and some of her items about the screen. You could go after your stuff or grab hers. She seems like a ability busdriver(which I swear is a real role ive seen somewhere but dont remember)

@Djfireside, Killboy,drake258, and Dazza. Don't play the newb card. Day 1 is usually ok to get by, but playing it everyday no matter the argument makes me want to warrant a vote at you three. For Now ill Vote Killboy and FOS drake259 for skimming.

But every thing he has said so far i understand and believe, (if he is a mafia, he is most likely mafia roleblocker, a reason he targeted the bulletproof and another mafia killed him)

Roleblocker targeted the bulletproof and the Vig killed him

Small FOS on RDS, I believe the lack of targets for roleblocking but still a little convenient that who you RB died. No way to be counterclaimed

I haven't once played the newb card , i have mentioned being new and that it's not an excuse to play it.

And that wasn't a skim that was more of an example i was just saying if rds was a mafia then it would have been more likely a coordinated attack with another mafia member to kill him. (as he didn't know about he can't role block him and sure their are others that don't as well) maple of course done the work, and then a SK or the vig could have killed the other person.

But why would he roleblock him if he is mafia and another mafia is not going to kill him? waste of a roleblock, which indicates to me that he is town as we more believe a vig had done it, that states he is townie.

Also their are not other RB in this game that have claimed at least and its a common role to be played, so i doubt RDS is scum

Vote: naxus for skimming

[naxus]

Sorry for falling off the map, various things occurred.

At whoever was confused with maple(Fireside I think) she was a witch who would be flying on her broom and crash into you knocking some of your items and some of her items about the screen. You could go after your stuff or grab hers. She seems like a ability busdriver(which I swear is a real role ive seen somewhere but dont remember)

@Djfireside, Killboy,drake258, and Dazza. Don't play the newb card. Day 1 is usually ok to get by, but playing it everyday no matter the argument makes me want to warrant a vote at you three. For Now ill Vote Killboy and FOS drake259 for skimming.

But every thing he has said so far i understand and believe, (if he is a mafia, he is most likely mafia roleblocker, a reason he targeted the bulletproof and another mafia killed him)

Roleblocker targeted the bulletproof and the Vig killed him

Small FOS on RDS, I believe the lack of targets for roleblocking but still a little convenient that who you RB died. No way to be counterclaimed

I haven't once played the newb card , i have mentioned being new and that it's not an excuse to play it.

And that wasn't a skim that was more of an example i was just saying if rds was a mafia then it would have been more likely a coordinated attack with another mafia member to kill him. (as he didn't know about he can't role block him and sure their are others that don't as well) maple of course done the work, and then a SK or the vig could have killed the other person.

But why would he roleblock him if he is mafia and another mafia is not going to kill him? waste of a roleblock, which indicates to me that he is town as we more believe a vig had done it, that states he is townie.

Also their are not other RB in this game that have claimed at least and its a common role to be played, so i doubt RDS is scum

Vote: naxus for skimming

Ah thought you were putting it forward as fact instead of a example.

And this is my first game where a Roleblocker chose a Bulletproof as a target. No matter what happens I would still say that it depends on the mod as to the results of that action.

[drake_259]

Sorry for falling off the map, various things occurred.

At whoever was confused with maple(Fireside I think) she was a witch who would be flying on her broom and crash into you knocking some of your items and some of her items about the screen. You could go after your stuff or grab hers. She seems like a ability busdriver(which I swear is a real role ive seen somewhere but dont remember)

@Djfireside, Killboy,drake258, and Dazza. Don't play the newb card. Day 1 is usually ok to get by, but playing it everyday no matter the argument makes me want to warrant a vote at you three. For Now ill Vote Killboy and FOS drake259 for skimming.

But every thing he has said so far i understand and believe, (if he is a mafia, he is most likely mafia roleblocker, a reason he targeted the bulletproof and another mafia killed him)

Roleblocker targeted the bulletproof and the Vig killed him

Small FOS on RDS, I believe the lack of targets for roleblocking but still a little convenient that who you RB died. No way to be counterclaimed

I haven't once played the newb card , i have mentioned being new and that it's not an excuse to play it.

And that wasn't a skim that was more of an example i was just saying if rds was a mafia then it would have been more likely a coordinated attack with another mafia member to kill him. (as he didn't know about he can't role block him and sure their are others that don't as well) maple of course done the work, and then a SK or the vig could have killed the other person.

But why would he roleblock him if he is mafia and another mafia is not going to kill him? waste of a roleblock, which indicates to me that he is town as we more believe a vig had done it, that states he is townie.

Also their are not other RB in this game that have claimed at least and its a common role to be played, so i doubt RDS is scum

Vote: naxus for skimming

Ah thought you were putting it forward as fact instead of a example.

And this is my first game where a Roleblocker chose a Bulletproof as a target. No matter what happens I would still say that it depends on the mod as to the results of that action.

I think the mod should tell us if in his games he allows passives to be rb or not

[pancakemix]

Doubt it. Who's getting lynched?

[Victor Sullivan]

Doubt it. Who's getting lynched?

You are!

-Sully

[BGtheBrain]

****

[Mr. Squirrel]

Can we have a vote count and a more specific deadline time?

Vote Count

shield (2) - yoshi, drunk monkey
fireside (1) - dazza
killboy (3) - nag, sully, naxus
iliad (1) - epitaph
naxus(1) - drake

19 alive, 10 to lynch
current lynch target: killboy

Deadline: tonight. Sometime after 8PM EST