Jules Verne Contest [Complete]

[Pandemonium]

Anyway, 3 player bonuses are not OK by me - you can easily isolate 2 players, (3, not so much)
so I vote all future maps and other parts of this tourney to be with 4 players left at least.

and all games should be 8 player, 7 players feels like cheating...
I mean, you get 1 point for being there - killed first, instead of 0 in the 8 players games.

[Dukasaur]

and all games should be 8 player, 7 players feels like cheating...
I mean, you get 1 point for being there - killed first, instead of 0 in the 8 players games.

We've had people quit since we reached 64... I think we have 58 or 59 active players, which doesn't work out to an even number of 8 player games. Should I be calling up replacements, then?

[Pandemonium]

I dunno Dukasaur, it's your decision.
There are only 3 games left, so I think the next tourney will be better organized with replacements, this one can stay with 7 player games since we had lots of them already. It would be a bummer though if someone wins this tourney and the second guy has 1 or 2 points less, and the winner got those 1 or 2 points in 7 player games just by being there...

[Dukasaur]

I dunno Dukasaur, it's your decision.
There are only 3 games left, so I think the next tourney will be better organized with replacements, this one can stay with 7 player games since we had lots of them already. It would be a bummer though if someone wins this tourney and the second guy has 1 or 2 points less, and the winner got those 1 or 2 points in 7 player games just by being there...

The thing with advantages like that is that since we randomize the groups for every map, the advantage goes to someone different every time, so it should balance out.

[Pandemonium]

About the BONUS dispute in [game]9401801[/game], this is what the log says

2011-07-21 01:06:11 - Game has been initialized

2011-07-24 03:18:48 - Incrementing game to round 2

2011-07-24 07:52:46 - fbonsignori assaulted Mare Fecunditas from USA Landing Site US2 and conquered it from neutral player FBON MARE +1

2011-07-25 19:56:24 - Incrementing game to round 3

2011-07-28 14:04:29 - Conchobar assaulted Mare Nubium from Europe Landing Site EU2 and conquered it from neutral player CONC MARE +1

2011-07-28 14:04:52 - Incrementing game to round 4

2011-07-31 21:16:48 - Incrementing game to round 5

2011-07-31 22:03:08 - fbonsignori assaulted Mare Spumans from Mare Fecunditas and conquered it from neutral player FBON MARE +2

2011-08-04 20:57:41 - Conchobar assaulted Mare Frigoris from Europe Landing Site EU1 and conquered it from neutral player CONC MARE +2

2011-08-04 20:58:33 - Incrementing game to round 6

2011-08-08 04:12:25 - Incrementing game to round 7

2011-08-10 18:48:19 - Incrementing game to round 8 - they were both holding the mares through rounds 6/7/8

2011-08-14 03:54:40 - Incrementing game to round 9

So, in this case, I would say FBON got the bonus first, may that be in pure luck that he was rolling first and CONC was rolling last in the rounds - after all, its a game of luck & strategy - anyhow Dukasaur should have a last say here too.


- about the dividing the points in case of Objective achievement:
the idea is - winner takes 10 points (in this case 0 because it's Dukasaur)
and the rest of the points 8+6+4+3+2+1 = 24 are divided equally to the rest of the players -- 24/7 = 3,43 (lets round it at 4)

- but in this particular case 4 players were already eliminated before the objective was won,
so the remaining three can divide points 8+6+4 = 18 -- 18/3 = 6 points for each player. So, the table would look like this:

Dustin800 - 3
Pack Man - 2
Opposites. - 6
iwillrockyou - 0
Bobdakota - 1
Conchobar - 6
fbonsignori - 6+10 = 16 bonus
Dukasaur - 10 (zero)

[Dukasaur]

About the BONUS dispute in [game]9401801[/game], this is what the log says

2011-07-21 01:06:11 - Game has been initialized

2011-07-24 03:18:48 - Incrementing game to round 2

2011-07-24 07:52:46 - fbonsignori assaulted Mare Fecunditas from USA Landing Site US2 and conquered it from neutral player FBON MARE +1

2011-07-25 19:56:24 - Incrementing game to round 3

2011-07-28 14:04:29 - Conchobar assaulted Mare Nubium from Europe Landing Site EU2 and conquered it from neutral player CONC MARE +1

2011-07-28 14:04:52 - Incrementing game to round 4

2011-07-31 21:16:48 - Incrementing game to round 5

2011-07-31 22:03:08 - fbonsignori assaulted Mare Spumans from Mare Fecunditas and conquered it from neutral player FBON MARE +2

2011-08-04 20:57:41 - Conchobar assaulted Mare Frigoris from Europe Landing Site EU1 and conquered it from neutral player CONC MARE +2

2011-08-04 20:58:33 - Incrementing game to round 6

2011-08-08 04:12:25 - Incrementing game to round 7

2011-08-10 18:48:19 - Incrementing game to round 8 - they were both holding the mares through rounds 6/7/8

2011-08-14 03:54:40 - Incrementing game to round 9

So, in this case, I would say FBON got the bonus first, may that be in pure luck that he was rolling first and CONC was rolling last in the rounds - after all, its a game of luck & strategy - anyhow Dukasaur should have a last say here too.


- about the dividing the points in case of Objective achievement:
the idea is - winner takes 10 points (in this case 0 because it's Dukasaur)
and the rest of the points 8+6+4+3+2+1 = 24 are divided equally to the rest of the players -- 24/7 = 3,43 (lets round it at 4)

- but in this particular case 4 players were already eliminated before the objective was won,
so the remaining three can divide points 8+6+4 = 18 -- 18/3 = 6 points for each player. So, the table would look like this:

Dustin800 - 3
Pack Man - 2
Opposites. - 6
iwillrockyou - 0
Bobdakota - 1
Conchobar - 6
fbonsignori - 6+10 = 16 bonus
Dukasaur - 10 (zero)

I think it's fine the way you have it.

It's bad luck that two players got the bonus so soon after each other, but hey, if it was a Formula 1 race and 0.001 seconds separated the first car from the second car they would still give the cup to the first one.

[Pandemonium]

So, when can we start the South America map?
Maybe a group messeage to all the freemiums to post here if they're ready or not...

[Dukasaur]

So, when can we start the South America map?
Maybe a group messeage to all the freemiums to post here if they're ready or not...

Well, two of our freemies have resigned and three have upgraded, which is nice to see. So we're down to nine and I checked them all manually. They all have slots except severs, which is pretty good.

I am a little worried to see if anyone else intends to drop out, so I'll send a letter to the list anyway. (Actually, a couple resignations at this point would be okay... we have 58 players left; if we had 56 it would work out to evenly as seven 8-player games.)

Tomorrow I'll make the South America games.

[Dukasaur]

iwillrocku and n.n. resigned from the tournament
McLor and DBandit70 have vanished from CC.
Anybody else?

[Dukasaur]

from PM:

please count out Capt. Ivan Drago. I'm finishing up his tournies, but would rather not extend any if possible. I'll gladly fill in for him if that helps.

- pittsburgh00

Okay, that's one out.
Also for completeness, I should add that alexcata and Remy1309 were cut earlier.

iwillrocku and n.n. resigned from the tournament
McLor and DBandit70 have vanished from CC.
Anybody else?

[Dukasaur]

I'm told Justin3F has been missing a lot of turns. Anybody know him, and is he still playing?

[VicFontaine]

The only way I can know if I'm going to quit or not is if I have even a distant chance of winning. The tourney has been so long, I don't know what the point may be.

[Dukasaur]

The only way I can know if I'm going to quit or not is if I have even a distant chance of winning. The tourney has been so long, I don't know what the point may be.

There is a link to the scores spreadsheet in the first post:

The link to the main scores spreadsheet:
https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ap9tZNjRXkJydF9jLTh2LWh5QVZRQkc0NV80Q0pjU3c&hl=en_US#gid=0

You can go browse that, but if you want, I'll summarize for you:
You're standing in 51st place in a field of 58. You have 28 points, compared to the current leader, general_c, who has 74. It is theoretically still possible for you to catch up (there are enough points in the remaining games) but quite honestly if I had to bet real-world money on you, I wouldn't.

For anybody else, please go ahead and browse the scoresheet. We made it for a reason...

The link to the main scores spreadsheet:
https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ap9tZNjRXkJydF9jLTh2LWh5QVZRQkc0NV80Q0pjU3c&hl=en_US#gid=0

[VicFontaine]

LOL! Yeah...I'll bow out now. I have terrible tournament results!

[Pandemonium]

Hook2 had the bonus in [game]9470178[/game] but didn't claim it...
Guys please, check and claim you own bonuses in the future.

[Dukasaur]

- - - - - - - - - - 1868- - - - - - - - - - -
English: In search of the Castaways (South america, Australia and New Zealand)
French: Les enfants du Capitaine Grant (l’Amérique du Sud, l’Australie, et l’Ocean Pacifique)

The books tell the story of the quest for Captain Grant of the Britannia. After finding a bottle cast into the ocean by the captain himself after the Britannia is shipwrecked, Lord and Lady Glenarvan of Scotland contact Mary and Robert, the young daughter and son of Captain Grant, through an announcement in a newspaper. Moved by the children's condition, Lord and Lady Glenarvan decide to launch a rescue expedition. The main difficulty is that the coordinates of the wreckage are mostly erased, and only the latitude (37 degrees) is known; thus, the expedition would have to circumnavigate the 37th parallel south. Remaining clues consist of a few words in three languages. They are re-interpreted several times throughout the novel to make various destinations seem likely.(Source : wikipedia)

[spoiler=map 7]The bonus on this map is to hold Lima and Pernambuco for 3 rounds. Like all Act II bonuses, this can only be claimed with 4 or more players still in the game.
There were 55 items in your list. Here they are in random order:

[game]9727850[/game]
1. general_c
2. Chapcrap
3. Dustin800
4. General Redstone
5. torres44cm
6. Stevkov
7. Dexterdexter

[game]9727844[/game]
8. IR1SH ACE
9. Dementia13
10. Le Rodent
11. Fairman
12. Bandido
13. Fbonsignori
14. Cptbeefalo
15. VestedPower

[game]9727842[/game]
16. Lorenzol
17. Sam02
18. Magneto_acolyte
19. djelebert
20. Pack Man
21. Uckuki
22. Marechal Joffre
23. Hermey68

[game]9727841[/game]
24. Seamus76
25. Duncana
26. jrbedwell
27. Hook2
28. Opposites.
29. Ttblanch
30. Pilot16
31. Pandemonium

[game]9727840[/game]
32. SirSebstar
33. King Gary
34. Rjhankey
35. Bobzimmerman
36. Growler
37. severs
38. Davetso
39. Lazyfox

[game]9727839[/game]
40. Squishyg
41. Darkseb
42. McShanester29
43. Rmjw10
44. Bobdakota
45. MattiWacklin
46. Kennys777
47. Ringemaster

[game]9727838[/game]
48. Conchobar
49. MlMarcelo
50. JJ41375
51. Stofer71
52. Hotpockets
53. PnC
54. DrWar
55. Fewnix

Timestamp: 2011-09-10 14:38:12 UTC

from PM:

please count out Capt. Ivan Drago. I'm finishing up his tournies, but would rather not extend any if possible. I'll gladly fill in for him if that helps.

- pittsburgh00

Okay, that's one out.
Also for completeness, I should add that alexcata and Remy1309 were cut earlier.

iwillrocku and n.n. resigned from the tournament
McLor and DBandit70 have vanished from CC.
Anybody else?

I'm told Justin3F has been missing a lot of turns. Anybody know him, and is he still playing?

Nobody seems to be able to confirm if Justin3f is coming back. I'll leave him out of this round, but he can still play if he returns.

Yeah, I will and sorry about that. My computer broke and I've been extremely busy but I'd still like to play. Things are calming down a bit now. Thanks. -Justin

I put Justin3F back in.

LOL! Yeah...I'll bow out now. I have terrible tournament results!

[/spoiler]
[spoiler=map 8]The bonus on this map is to hold Brisbane and Pilbara for 3 rounds. Like all Act II bonuses, this can only be claimed with 4 or more players still in the game.
There were 56 items in your list. Here they are in random order:

[game]9802698[/game]
1. Fbonsignori
2. Hotpockets
3. McShanester29
4. PnC
5. Conchobar
6. Hermey68
7. MattiWacklin
8. MlMarcelo


[game]9802697[/game]
9. Dementia13
10. IR1SH ACE
11. Bobzimmerman
12. jrbedwell
13. Pack Man
14. Fairman
15. Kennys777
16. Justin3F


[game]9802696[/game] replaced by [game]9828925[/game]
17. JJ41375
18. Magneto_acolyte
19. Rmjw10
20. Cptbeefalo
21. Dustin800
22. Bobdakota
23. Dexterdexter
24. Darkseb


[game]9802695[/game]
25. Squishyg
26. Sam02
27. general_c
28. Uckuki
29. Pandemonium
30. Opposites.
31. torres44cm
32. Ttblanch


[game]9802694[/game] replace by [game]9828924[/game]
33. Pilot16
34. Chapcrap
35. Rjhankey
36. Stevkov
37. King Gary
38. djelebert
39. Marechal Joffre
40. Hook2


[game]9802693[/game]
41. Lazyfox
42. Le Rodent
43. Davetso
44. Fewnix
45. Ringemaster
46. DrWar
47. Stofer71
48. General Redstone


[game]9802692[/game]
49. VestedPower
50. Seamus76
51. Bandido
52. Duncana
53. SirSebstar
54. Lorenzol
55. severs
56. Growler

Timestamp: 2011-09-24 09:02:24 UTC[/spoiler]
[spoiler=map 9]There were 54 items in your list. Here they are in random order:

[game]9874591[/game]
1. Le Rodent
2. Stofer71
3. Darkseb
4. Dementia13
5. SirSebstar
6. Opposites.
7. severs
8. Cptbeefalo

[game]9874592[/game]
9. Kennys777
10. MlMarcelo
11. Fewnix
12. torres44cm
13. Davetso
14. Chapcrap
15. Lorenzol
16. Fairman

[game]9874593[/game]
17. jrbedwell
18. general_c
19. McShanester29
20. Ringemaster
21. General Redstone
22. PnC
23. Hermey68
24. Squishyg

[game]9874594[/game]
25. Pilot16
26. JJ41375
27. Magneto_acolyte
28. IR1SH ACE
29. Pack Man
30. Conchobar
31. Stevkov
32. Growler

[game]9874595[/game]
(accidentally invited wrong people, and there's no way to un-invite, so I had to nuke it and remake)
[game]9874649[/game]
33. Bobdakota
34. Hotpockets
35. Sam02
36. Dustin800
37. Bandido
38. Fbonsignori
39. Rjhankey
40. Hook2

[game]9874596[/game]
41. Ttblanch
42. Justin3F
43. Rmjw10
44. djelebert
45. King Gary
46. DrWar
47. Uckuki

[game]9874597[/game]
48. Duncana
49. Seamus76
50. Bobzimmerman
51. VestedPower
52. Lazyfox
53. MattiWacklin
54. Pandemonium

Timestamp: 2011-10-07 12:38:28 UTC[/spoiler]

[Dukasaur]

Pandemonium, I'm on the highway struggling with the laptop and it's hard to do anything. Can you renew the expired invites please?

[Pandemonium]

[game]9401799[/game]

2011-07-18 22:19:13 - Game has been initialized

2011-07-21 10:56:57 - Incrementing game to round 2

2011-07-21 14:37:53 - ttblanch assaulted Mare Tranquillitatis from Japan Landing Site JP2 and conquered it from neutral player MARE 1

2011-07-22 06:54:56 - Incrementing game to round 3

2011-07-22 14:05:39 - ttblanch assaulted Mare Serenitatis from Mare Tranquillitatis and conquered it from neutral player MARE 2

2011-07-23 17:07:06 - Incrementing game to round 4

2011-07-24 03:17:24 - ttblanch assaulted Mare Vaporum from Mare Serenitatis and conquered it from neutral player MARE 3

2011-07-26 07:47:25 - Incrementing game to round 5

2011-07-27 16:34:38 - Incrementing game to round 6

2011-07-27 17:19:27 - ttblanch assaulted Mare Fecunditas from Mare Tranquillitatis and conquered it from DBandit70 MARE 4

2011-07-28 21:03:18 - Incrementing game to round 7 held at least 2 mares for rounds 4-5-6


Another unclaimed bonus... by a rude player and classic a-hole.
But, rules are rules, he gets the 10 bonus points.
Keep at it guys, one day I will not have time to check everything and you will stay with unclaimed bonuses...

[Pandemonium]

Pandemonium, I'm on the highway struggling with the laptop and it's hard to do anything. Can you renew the expired invites please?

Done

[ttblanch]

Indeed, look the chat http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=9401799
Sorry for rudeness but that guy was just a poor quiter...

[Dukasaur]

Indeed, look the chat http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=9401799
Sorry for rudeness but that guy was just a poor quiter...

I don't know about that. It's not uncommon for freemiums to ask someone to kill them off so they can free up a slot. And since he's already resigned from the tournament it makes sense.

In any case, it's better for him to ask to be killed than to just deadbeat out.

[Pandemonium]

[game]9401797[/game]

We had a false bonus claim here by jrbedwell, because dementia13 got the bonus first - see low below:

2011-07-14 14:32:53 - Game has been initialized

2011-07-16 14:20:52 - Incrementing game to round 2

2011-07-18 17:45:32 - Incrementing game to round 3

2011-07-21 20:00:15 - Incrementing game to round 4

2011-07-25 03:19:02 - Incrementing game to round 5

2011-07-26 14:19:12 - dementia13 assaulted Mare Serenitatis from Russia Landing Site RU2 and conquered it from neutral player MARE +1

2011-07-26 21:01:23 - Incrementing game to round 6

2011-07-29 05:13:24 - Justin3f assaulted Mare Serenitatis from Cassini and conquered it from dementia13 MARE 0

2011-07-29 13:11:43 - dementia13 assaulted Mare Serenitatis from Russia Landing Site RU2 and conquered it from Justin3f MARE +1
2011-07-29 13:11:58 - dementia13 assaulted Mare Vaporum from Mare Serenitatis and conquered it from neutral player MARE +2

2011-07-30 07:05:38 - Incrementing game to round 7

2011-08-01 16:36:00 - Incrementing game to round 8

2011-08-03 21:45:38 - dementia13 assaulted Mare Tranquillitatis from Mare Serenitatis and conquered it from jrbedwell MARE +3

2011-08-04 00:16:10 - Incrementing game to round 9

2011-08-04 16:13:54 - JJ41375 assaulted Mare Tranquillitatis from Mare Fecunditas and conquered it from dementia13 MARE +2

2011-08-07 06:03:03 - Incrementing game to round 10


======================================================================================================================================================

We also had false bonus claim in [game]9401795[/game] by Squishyg - because SEVERS got there first - see log below:

2011-07-17 00:02:55 - Game has been initialized

2011-07-20 13:25:24 - Incrementing game to round 2

2011-07-23 04:14:59 - severs assaulted Mare Fecunditas from USA Landing Site US2 and conquered it from neutral player

2011-07-26 02:35:16 - Incrementing game to round 4

2011-07-27 07:05:16 - severs assaulted Mare Spumans from Mare Fecunditas and conquered it from neutral player

2011-07-28 04:19:23 - Incrementing game to round 5

2011-07-29 23:49:04 - Incrementing game to round 6

2011-07-31 21:36:24 - Incrementing game to round 7

2011-08-02 17:01:42 - Incrementing game to round 8


PS - It took time to re-check these logs and find these false claims, but people seem uninterested about these bonuses and stuff - Dukasaur, you'll have to make sure everyone understands the rules and bonuses for next tournies...

PPS - See Mr. Severs, I don't hate you, I got you a bonus, even when you tagged me as "Complainer, Vindictive"

[Pandemonium]

South America RESULTS [COMPLETE]

[game]9727850[/game]
1. general_c - 4
2. Chapcrap - 3
3. Dustin800 - 2
4. General Redstone - 8
5. torres44cm - 6+10 = 16 bonus
6. Stevkov - 1
7. Justin3f - 10

[game]9727844[/game]
8. IR1SH ACE - 6
9. Dementia13 - 0
10. Le Rodent - 3
11. Fairman - 8+10 = 18 bonus
12. Bandido - 10
13. Fbonsignori - 2
14. Cptbeefalo - 4
15. VestedPower - 1

[game]9727842[/game] - game not finished, round 51, deadline expired
16. Lorenzol - 5
17. Sam02 - 5
18. Magneto_acolyte - 5
19. djelebert - 5
20. Pack Man - 5
21. Uckuki - 5
22. Marechal Joffre - 0
23. Hermey68 - 5

[game]9727841[/game]
24. Seamus76 - 2
25. Duncana - 3
26. jrbedwell - 4
27. Hook2 - 8
28. Opposites. - 10
29. Ttblanch - 1
30. Pilot16 - 6+10 = 16 bonus
31. Pandemonium - 0

[game]9727840[/game]
32. SirSebstar - 4
33. King Gary - 6
34. Rjhankey - 1
35. Bobzimmerman - 0
36. Growler - 10
37. severs - 2
38. Davetso - 3
39. Lazyfox - 8+10 = 18 bonus

[game]9727839[/game]
40. Squishyg - 3+10 = 13 bonus
41. Darkseb - 8
42. McShanester29 - 1
43. Rmjw10 - 6
44. Bobdakota - 10
45. MattiWacklin - 2
46. Kennys777 - 0
47. Ringemaster - 4

[game]9727838[/game]
48. Conchobar - 10
49. MlMarcelo - 0
50. JJ41375 - 2
51. Stofer71 - 3
52. Hotpockets - 1
53. PnC - 8
54. DrWar - 4
55. Fewnix - 6

PS - points & bonuses from unfinished games will be filled in as the games come to an end.

[Dukasaur]

[game]9401797[/game]
[spoiler]We had a false bonus claim here by jrbedwell, because dementia13 got the bonus first - see low below:

2011-07-14 14:32:53 - Game has been initialized

2011-07-16 14:20:52 - Incrementing game to round 2

2011-07-18 17:45:32 - Incrementing game to round 3

2011-07-21 20:00:15 - Incrementing game to round 4

2011-07-25 03:19:02 - Incrementing game to round 5

2011-07-26 14:19:12 - dementia13 assaulted Mare Serenitatis from Russia Landing Site RU2 and conquered it from neutral player MARE +1

2011-07-26 21:01:23 - Incrementing game to round 6

2011-07-29 05:13:24 - Justin3f assaulted Mare Serenitatis from Cassini and conquered it from dementia13 MARE 0

2011-07-29 13:11:43 - dementia13 assaulted Mare Serenitatis from Russia Landing Site RU2 and conquered it from Justin3f MARE +1
2011-07-29 13:11:58 - dementia13 assaulted Mare Vaporum from Mare Serenitatis and conquered it from neutral player MARE +2

2011-07-30 07:05:38 - Incrementing game to round 7

2011-08-01 16:36:00 - Incrementing game to round 8

2011-08-03 21:45:38 - dementia13 assaulted Mare Tranquillitatis from Mare Serenitatis and conquered it from jrbedwell MARE +3

2011-08-04 00:16:10 - Incrementing game to round 9

2011-08-04 16:13:54 - JJ41375 assaulted Mare Tranquillitatis from Mare Fecunditas and conquered it from dementia13 MARE +2

2011-08-07 06:03:03 - Incrementing game to round 10


======================================================================================================================================================[/spoiler]
[game]9401795[/game]
[spoiler]We also had false bonus claim in [game]9401795[/game] by Squishyg - because SEVERS got there first - see log below:

2011-07-17 00:02:55 - Game has been initialized

2011-07-20 13:25:24 - Incrementing game to round 2

2011-07-23 04:14:59 - severs assaulted Mare Fecunditas from USA Landing Site US2 and conquered it from neutral player

2011-07-26 02:35:16 - Incrementing game to round 4

2011-07-27 07:05:16 - severs assaulted Mare Spumans from Mare Fecunditas and conquered it from neutral player

2011-07-28 04:19:23 - Incrementing game to round 5

2011-07-29 23:49:04 - Incrementing game to round 6

2011-07-31 21:36:24 - Incrementing game to round 7

2011-08-02 17:01:42 - Incrementing game to round 8[/spoiler]

PS - It took time to re-check these logs and find these false claims, but people seem uninterested about these bonuses and stuff - Dukasaur, you'll have to make sure everyone understands the rules and bonuses for next tournies...

PPS - See Mr. Severs, I don't hate you, I got you a bonus, even when you tagged me as "Complainer, Vindictive"

Good work, Pandemonium. Thanks for tracking those down!

[Dukasaur]

Yeah, I will and sorry about that. My computer broke and I've been extremely busy but I'd still like to play. Things are calming down a bit now. Thanks. -Justin

I put Justin3F back in.