Zelda Mafia ~ Town Wins! Hyrule is Safe

[BGtheBrain]

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[shieldgenerator7]

so that means we have another item gifter, perhpas an item switcher. Maybe there's a role that's like a busdriver except they switch objects instead of targets.

[drunkmonkey]

I feel like figuring out how VS got his item is wasting our time. BG confirmed him as town...nothing else fruitful will come from this discussion.

I went back looking for something that might lead to a new case, and found a few iffy posts from DoomYoshi. The first is from early D3:

I have no idea who would be a good candidate for a lynch today. I do understand the case on killboy, but I feel like even though it is the best case, its not a great case either. In all honesty, he is being active now which is better than a lot of players. If we lynch anyone, I would suggest a random shot an inactive, who are likely to be submarining now.

The second is from late D3, when the lynch on killboy is imminent:

On Killboy: I completely agree with pcm. There is no real case there. However, lynching killboy is effectively a random inactive lynch... so pretty much the same as voting C9, which I also do not agree with. I can understand your point MoB and dazza. However, on principle, voting an inactive on Day 3 (especially a day 3 with replacements) is bad form.

I know you will all kill me for this, but I don't see enough clear evidence. We really don't want another mislynch.

vote no lynch

So, early in the day, a random inactive is the best choice. But as we get closer to lynching him, it's a bad idea because he's a "random inactive". Why the change of heart?

[BGtheBrain]

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[MoB Deadly]

Thank you guys, Doom Yoshi has been my primary suspect for days now, I just didn't know how to formulate my case. I tried and failed miserably. Very on board with this one.


unvote vote Doom Yoshi

[Epitaph1]

Now's Doom's chance to claim what rds blocked.

Vote DoomYoshi

[spiesr]

Now's Doom's chance to claim what rds blocked.
Vote DoomYoshi

Way to hop on the bandwagon there...

[BGtheBrain]

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[Victor Sullivan]

Heaven forbid we lynch a town power role...

-Sully

[drunkmonkey]

I think the point is, 3 votes is far from a lynch (well, at this point in time).

[Victor Sullivan]

Yes, yes, I'm aware. I think DoomYoshi needs to claim... Or shield.

-Sully

[Mr. Squirrel]

I prodded Commander9. He said he will read and post on friday. If that isn't soon enough for you guys, I can try to get him replaced. Let me know.

[MoB Deadly]

Thanks Squirrel

[DoomYoshi]

Hey guys, I am back. Sorry about my inactivity for a few days there. A lot of schoolwork for a little bit.

I see your case on me, and yes I get it. I am not sure what I was thinking earlier in the day. However, you must note that I didn't actually place a vote on a random inactive. It was just my best case. I have played enough games to know that you can vote no lynch, but I totally forgot about it, until Mr. S reminded us.

I have said it before, and I will say it again though: the killboy lynch was very random. It was a case built on almost nothing. His behaviour was very n00b, not particularly scummy and we could've just as likely flipped town on that one.

I am the Postman, Town Commuter. It surprised me when Mr. S told me that my action failed, but he did. So, in this setup, Roleblocking precedes commuting.

[rdsrds2120]

So last night I roleblocked DoomYoshi and Rodion, and from the night scene, it looks like there was a busdriver or some other redirect ability that resulted in one link killing another, so I don't think the mafia killed anyone last night. That and along with you defending killboy makes you seem scummy to me, so I'm going to vote DoomYoshi for now. Commuting doesn't seem like something that would get roleblocked to me...

-rd

[drunkmonkey]

UPDATE!!!!
*I was in a hurry and forgot to include one Night action.....*

Also during the night, the wizzrobe returned to the tree he had tried to burn before. Now that pesky link didn't have a potion, no one could stop him from burning it into the ground. A single fireball was all it took. In the morning, all of the forest mourned the loss of their eldest member.

Nagerous - Deku Tree (Item Gifter) has been killed!

A wooden shield (bulletproof abilities) that he had been trying to give away also burned in the fire

Continue day 4
14 alive 8 to lynch

DoomYoshi is definitely cleared of Wizzrobe. Still not sure about him, but I don't know how anyone could verify/refute his claim.

[spiesr]

So last night I roleblocked DoomYoshi and Rodion, and from the night scene, it looks like there was a busdriver or some other redirect ability that resulted in one link killing another, so I don't think the mafia killed anyone last night.

Come on rdsrds don't be such a skimmer. Anyhow, I will toss my vote on Shield, I just have this scum vibe coming from him and don't really see that many worthwhile other cases being viable right now...

[drunkmonkey]

All I know from these roles is what's in the MafiaWiki (which is linked in the Sticky thread):

http://www.mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Commuter

The Commuter is a role that "leaves Town" each Night, thus making them ineligible to be targeted by Night actions. By extension, they cannot use any Night actions they may have.

Because they cannot use Night actions, almost all Commuters are pro-Town.

It is worth noting that because in flavor it physically leaves the game for the Night instead of being protected somewhere in Town, Commuter is considered the ultimate in Untargetability, trumping even things like Strongman.

It seems the entire point of Commuter is that nothing can target him. This smells fake to me. Has anyone else tried targeting him yet?

[Victor Sullivan]

I dunno, I believe DoomYoshi. shield's actions point to scum more than his, IMO.

-Sully

[drunkmonkey]

So, here's where we stand (stole the layout from epitaph, thanks):

1.
2. Commander9 - claims he's going to post Friday. Even if he's replaced, we won't get anything until then, so I guess we have to deal with it.
3. Pancakemix - active, I haven't got a read either way
4. MoB deadly - claimed vanilla Link
5. rds - claimed roleblocker/boomerang
6. Shieldgenerator7 - active, possibly scummy
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8. Doomyoshi claimed Postman (Commuter)
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10. Victor Sullivan - claimed Ocarina
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12. Spiesr - active after replacing naxus, not much to read
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15. Drunkmonkey
16. djfireside - inactive, made 1 post recently but didn't really say anything
17. drake_259 basically claimed Epona
18. BG the brain claimed Great Fairy
19. epitaph - active, seems ok
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21. Dazza - claimed Navi

Dead Players:
1. Edocsil - Link the Wind waker killed night 1
2. Hensow - Link of Majora's Mask killed night 1
3. iliad - Link of the Oracle of Seasons lynched day 2
4. Killboy - Octorok (mafia Roleblocker) lynched day 3
5. Rodion - Ganondorf (1-shot bulletproof mafia godfather) killed night 3
6. / - Link of the Oracle of Seasons killed night 3 --> I think this is Oracle of Ages
7. nagerous - Deku Tree (Item Gifter) killed night 3

[BGtheBrain]

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[Victor Sullivan]

I still think Yoshi over Shield.
If Yoshi is guilty, im very suspicious of Spiesr for voting shield here.
VS despite being cleared by me, im wondering if there is a mafia busdriver and you may have totally lucked out by me "upgrading" someone else but thinking it was you.

What?

-Sully

[BGtheBrain]

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[MoB Deadly]

I mean Yoshi has a convincing role, a very powerful one at that. Only way mafia could kill them is if their roleblocker got them and then attacked him.

but drunk monkey is right, by following the wiki, he should not of been role blocked. Thanks kind of fishy

[spiesr]

I mean Yoshi has a convincing role, a very powerful one at that. Only way mafia could kill them is if their roleblocker got them and then attacked him.

Well, no since commuters cannot use their power two nights in a row, they would just have to target him on a night where he isn't commuting...