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chapcrap wrote:Fog maps are already revealed at the end of games.
If you mean to "replay" the game, there is already a suggestion for that.
tarcellius wrote:The BOB script, which I have used for a long time now, is a poor replacement for true replay support. In my opinion, the goals of this project should be:
1) Allow a player to see the board at the start of any past turn (not just between rounds) with whatever board visibility the player had at that time. Imagine giving the player as much information as if he had checked the game before every single player's turn and taken a picture of the board. This more closely mimics a real board game played in person, while still supporting fog. Outside of freestyle games, there should be no advantage on a turn-based game site for the player who checks his games all the time to get extra BOB snapshots. Other turn-based game sites support exactly this feature and there is no reason conquer club should not.
2) Make the feature universally available, not an add-on. Don't give an advantage to players who happen to know about a particular greasemonkey script. Don't force players to run greasemonkey scripts (which should be avoided whenever possible, from a browser performance perspective) just to use a basic replay feature. Don't rely on players remembering to click a snapshot button just to have some replay support.
3) Remove the need for courtesy rules like "at the start of the game, allow 12 hours for the opposing team to grab a snapshot before moving". This rule is used in many tournaments because the BOB script is the default replay support. This situation just leads to friction between players. Sometimes the rule is honored, sometimes not, and sometimes it is assumed even when the tournament didn't suggest it. If true support was available the courtesy rule would be totally unnecessary. The playing field would be level without it.
Anyway, I went looking for this thread again today and was disappointed to see that it has been hijacked by discussion of the BOB script. The BOB script is NOT a good solution.
tarcellius wrote:The BOB script, which I have used for a long time now, is a poor replacement for true replay support. In my opinion, the goals of this project should be:
1) Allow a player to see the board at the start of any past turn (not just between rounds) with whatever board visibility the player had at that time. Imagine giving the player as much information as if he had checked the game before every single player's turn and taken a picture of the board. This more closely mimics a real board game played in person, while still supporting fog. Outside of freestyle games, there should be no advantage on a turn-based game site for the player who checks his games all the time to get extra BOB snapshots. Other turn-based game sites support exactly this feature and there is no reason conquer club should not.
2) Make the feature universally available, not an add-on. Don't give an advantage to players who happen to know about a particular greasemonkey script. Don't force players to run greasemonkey scripts (which should be avoided whenever possible, from a browser performance perspective) just to use a basic replay feature. Don't rely on players remembering to click a snapshot button just to have some replay support.
3) Remove the need for courtesy rules like "at the start of the game, allow 12 hours for the opposing team to grab a snapshot before moving". This rule is used in many tournaments because the BOB script is the default replay support. This situation just leads to friction between players. Sometimes the rule is honored, sometimes not, and sometimes it is assumed even when the tournament didn't suggest it. If true support was available the courtesy rule would be totally unnecessary. The playing field would be level without it.
Anyway, I went looking for this thread again today and was disappointed to see that it has been hijacked by discussion of the BOB script. The BOB script is NOT a good solution.
ckyrias wrote:For people (like me) who have on average 100 games active it means i have to search for every game i join ith fog and monitor when my opponent joins to get the snap!! the joy of this game is the game itself not browsing between 100 games to see if you have a snap!
Hunter S. Thompson wrote:The Edge... There is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over..
chapcrap wrote:I would not be opposed to this. Been suggested before in various ways. Here are most... I won't say all, because I'm not sure I found them all.
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=165642
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=154867
viewtopic.php?f=471&t=144479
viewtopic.php?f=471&t=137893
viewtopic.php?f=471&t=110190
viewtopic.php?f=471&t=37347
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=153100
Some hindrances have been discussed here as well: viewtopic.php?f=535&t=138522
chapcrap wrote:I wasn't trying to detract from the suggestion at all with my first post. As I said, I would be in favor. I think the biggest issue would be the memory that it would take. I remember in one of the threads, someone combated this by saying that perhaps someone's replays could be saved for only a week or two afterwards and then erased. I think that could be a good solution.
If players were allowed to erase their replays as well, that would save memory. And the default setting could be that everyone's replays were automatically erased unless they choose to save them.
I'm not sure how difficult the coding would be. I'm sure it's been addressed in one of the other threads.
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