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US kids aren't being screwed, but they aren't getting the best deal either. They still do remarkably well, just not as well as other comparable systems. Competition between schools is probably not hugely relevant though- most kids just go to the school that's closest. Some might have options, but only between a small handful.Nobunaga wrote:.. The state of US public schools - a terrifying video for parents.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bx4pN-aiofw
... It's a long video (40 mins), but well worth watching if you've got kids.
... We spend more per public school kid than nearly any other nation, and yet we absolutely suck when compared to our peers overseas.
... Misuse of money, union monopolization, irrelevance of school performance and no competition among schools ... It's a complete mess and it's screwing our kids.
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natty_dread wrote:Do ponies have sex?
(proud member of the Occasionally Wrongly Banned)Army of GOD wrote:the term heterosexual is offensive. I prefer to be called "normal"
I'm with Little Tebow on this one. Most definitely, the public schools in the U.S. are a waste. However, I also went to public school (a pretty shitty one) and I turned out pretty good... I mean well... weller? gooder?Army of GOD wrote:I'm no fan of public schools (graduated from one in upstate New York), but to put the blame solely on it is ridiculous. We have a lot of problems that other countries don't, pretty much because the US is unlike most other countries.
Oh, and at 4:31: "I think I did WELL*."
This has come up before.Nobunaga wrote:.. The state of US public schools - a terrifying video for parents.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bx4pN-aiofw
... It's a long video (40 mins), but well worth watching if you've got kids.
... We spend more per public school kid than nearly any other nation, and yet we absolutely suck when compared to our peers overseas.
... Misuse of money, union monopolization, irrelevance of school performance and no competition among schools ... It's a complete mess and it's screwing our kids.
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natty_dread wrote:Do ponies have sex?
(proud member of the Occasionally Wrongly Banned)Army of GOD wrote:the term heterosexual is offensive. I prefer to be called "normal"
Yea, I don't even know what he's talking about. In some schools (pretty much ONLY in the south), they teach creationism, but I doubt they teach it in public schools in New York city. In my school, we didn't even come close to creationism.john9blue wrote:yes, children dislike school because they feel that the knowledge being offered to the does not conform to the modern scientific consensus
you crack me up, NY2...
i went to catholic high school and we learned about evolution. every student was fully aware that christianity and evolution were compatible. some of the things i read online about "the religious right hijacking education" just make me facepalm. if there's a problem, it has to do with public education itself, and not the religious right.Lootifer wrote:Not that I agree with what he's saying John, you guys do spend a LOT of money on education and the MAIN difference between the US and the rest of the 1st world is it's view on religion... Does beg the question, just sayin'
natty_dread wrote:Do ponies have sex?
(proud member of the Occasionally Wrongly Banned)Army of GOD wrote:the term heterosexual is offensive. I prefer to be called "normal"

Whether it's a 'problem' or not is trivial (it'll exist no matter what), but I agree with this.Lootifer wrote:Not that I agree with what he's saying John, but you guys do spend a LOT of money on education and the MAIN difference between the US and the rest of the 1st world is it's view on religion... Does beg the question, just sayin'
Army of GOD wrote:Whether it's a 'problem' or not is trivial (it'll exist no matter what), but I agree with this.Lootifer wrote:Not that I agree with what he's saying John, but you guys do spend a LOT of money on education and the MAIN difference between the US and the rest of the 1st world is it's view on religion... Does beg the question, just sayin'
Wasn't there a point earlier in the US' history where we had the best education? I feel like it had to have been the 50s/60s, but religion was pretty damn prevalent then too.
You remember Prohibition?Aradhus wrote:Army of GOD wrote:Whether it's a 'problem' or not is trivial (it'll exist no matter what), but I agree with this.Lootifer wrote:Not that I agree with what he's saying John, but you guys do spend a LOT of money on education and the MAIN difference between the US and the rest of the 1st world is it's view on religion... Does beg the question, just sayin'
Wasn't there a point earlier in the US' history where we had the best education? I feel like it had to have been the 50s/60s, but religion was pretty damn prevalent then too.
Might have been prevalent, but it didn't have a political agenda until the 80s.
http://begthequestion.info/Lootifer wrote:Not that I agree with what he's saying John, but you guys do spend a LOT of money on education and the MAIN difference between the US and the rest of the 1st world is it's view on religion... Does beg the question, just sayin'
GET OFF MY LAWNArmy of GOD wrote:EXACTLYAradhus wrote:No I was born in 1980.
