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zimmah wrote:hmm, i wonder if it's a good idea to pressure gilli instead for trying to speedlynch someone who has claimed to be on vacantion.
Read that.thehippo8 wrote:All very reasonable to assume, and frankly I am off my game in the last couple of days. This is my last week before I head off on holiday for a month ... so I will be slow at responding from this point on. Thought I better let you all know that now before you thin that is dodgy behaviour in its own right!
As Sully said, the current general consensus across the mafia forum is that you should stop when you get to L-2, until you are ready to hammer. L-1 allows for more accidental lynches. Either from people deliberately trying to speed-lynch (unlikely at this point in the game), people not realizing that hammering before the claim and whatnot would be bad, people not reading the vote count, people pretending to not have read the vote count.Victor Sullivan wrote:Well, generally L-1s are avoided for Hated Townies and speed-lynchers (mafia/lynchers/some random dumb guy).
Right. We don't want someone coming in to attack TheGeneral2112 for the lynch. That would be incredibly stupid, even for a mafia goon.spiesr wrote:As Sully said, the current general consensus across the mafia forum is that you should stop when you get to L-2, until you are ready to hammer. L-1 allows for more accidental lynches. Either from people deliberately trying to speed-lynch (unlikely at this point in the game), people not realizing that hammering before the claim and whatnot would be bad, people not reading the vote count, people pretending to not have read the vote count.Victor Sullivan wrote:Well, generally L-1s are avoided for Hated Townies and speed-lynchers (mafia/lynchers/some random dumb guy).
If Hippo provides a good defense/claim we could look into it, otherwise it will be noted for tomorrow or something. I don't think that by itself is nearly enough to justify switch tracts right now. I mean maybe through an FOS out there, but I don't know if I would really consider it a lynchable offense.zimmah wrote:so, do we switch to gilligan for being stubborn and leaving it at L-1 for so long, or?
As far as I can ascertain, this is the big deal attack by BG.BGtheBrain wrote:Okdazza2008 wrote:What is the case you are on about BG?
Hippo votes Shield to put him at L-1
He gets called out and then unvotes waiting for a replacement
Replacement doesnt come, shield doesnt talk any more.
he then revotes AND gives VS grief over VS asking for a "Day" but then never revoting
Then he unvotes again asking for replacement.
I call him out and he responds with a blatant OMGUS on me after I vote him.
Now he is back to pressuring SG even though the mod says he is trying to find a replacement.
I had a nice post with quotes and crap, but closed the wrong tab when I went to post it.
Fastposted: And now SG is back.
Maxleod wrote:Not strike, he's the only one with a functioning brain.
You think someone might fake claim doc?BGtheBrain wrote:Wow. Glad our doc is an idiot
Now to figure out if he's telling the truth
Unvote
It's not beyond the realm of possibility. His 'Lynch me or the mafia will kill me, either way its a sad loss - but such is the way of D1!!' kind of smells like a mafia ploy I've seen before, but we might not be able to do much now.dazza2008 wrote:You think someone might fake claim doc?BGtheBrain wrote:Wow. Glad our doc is an idiot
Now to figure out if he's telling the truth
Unvote
To me that just sounded like he thinks he will be NK'd as he is the doc. Hopefully we have something else that has the ability to save him. Bus driver for example. Or a watcher so at least if he is killed the killer will be caught.AndyDufresne wrote:It's not beyond the realm of possibility. His 'Lynch me or the mafia will kill me, either way its a sad loss - but such is the way of D1!!' kind of smells like a mafia ploy I've seen before, but we might not be able to do much now.dazza2008 wrote:You think someone might fake claim doc?BGtheBrain wrote:Wow. Glad our doc is an idiot
Now to figure out if he's telling the truth
Unvote
--Andy
If it is a fakeclaim its not a clever 1 at all. I am a bit confused to why he drew so much attention to himself. He played crazy like that in MoB's first game and was the arsonist I think. Maybe he just plays crazy no matter what the roleBGtheBrain wrote:Claiming Doc if he is scum is one way to try to get the REAL doc to out himself.
A good doc wouldnt counter on D1, instead lay low for a day or 2.
if someone dies and flips doc, Hippo is a goner.
Im not saying he is lying or telling the truth, Im undecided.
BGtheBrain wrote:Claiming Doc if he is scum is one way to try to get the REAL doc to out himself.
A good doc wouldnt counter on D1, instead lay low for a day or 2.
if someone dies and flips doc, Hippo is a goner.
Im not saying he is lying or telling the truth, Im undecided.
well, if he doesn't want to get lynched day 1 all the time he HAS to stop playing crazydazza2008 wrote:If it is a fakeclaim its not a clever 1 at all. I am a bit confused to why he drew so much attention to himself. He played crazy like that in MoB's first game and was the arsonist I think. Maybe he just plays crazy no matter what the roleBGtheBrain wrote:Claiming Doc if he is scum is one way to try to get the REAL doc to out himself.
A good doc wouldnt counter on D1, instead lay low for a day or 2.
if someone dies and flips doc, Hippo is a goner.
Im not saying he is lying or telling the truth, Im undecided.
Because Doctor is such a ubiquitous role in these games I can only think of two reasons a scum would fake-claim doc. Both are only likely to occur when the scum doesn't have a good fake-claim prepared.dazza2008 wrote:I am not the most experienced player but to me a doc claim is believable almost 100% of the time.
So, what is the real doctor to due in such a situation? His options basically amount to either counter-claiming and accepting the trade of the doc for a scum, or not doing anything about it and letting the scum walk free for a significant amount of time. I suppose he could also argue for the claimed person's lynch without making a counter-claim, but such an attempt would probably either futile, considered scummy, or seen through quickly.BGtheBrain wrote:Claiming Doc if he is scum is one way to try to get the REAL doc to out himself.
A good doc wouldnt counter on D1, instead lay low for a day or 2.
if someone dies and flips doc, Hippo is a goner.
Im not saying he is lying or telling the truth, Im undecided.
First Unvote Hippothehippo8 wrote:As far as I can ascertain, this is the big deal attack by BG.BGtheBrain wrote:Okdazza2008 wrote:What is the case you are on about BG?
Hippo votes Shield to put him at L-1
He gets called out and then unvotes waiting for a replacement
Replacement doesnt come, shield doesnt talk any more.
he then revotes AND gives VS grief over VS asking for a "Day" but then never revoting
Then he unvotes again asking for replacement.
I call him out and he responds with a blatant OMGUS on me after I vote him.
Now he is back to pressuring SG even though the mod says he is trying to find a replacement.
I had a nice post with quotes and crap, but closed the wrong tab when I went to post it.
Fastposted: And now SG is back.
The sg7 thing caused all of us to move on, no problem there.
The VS thing was a joke, no problem there.
The OMGUS was a prod at you, nothing more, no problem there.
You claim that you had lovely posts and all but say you lost them. Thereafter everyone goes bandwagoning. Nice, but weird.
You want me to claim, fine. I'm on L1 and you didn't get my clue. Stupid town you will loose me whatever I do.
I am the Town Doctor. Lynch me or the mafia will kill me, either way its a sad loss - but such is the way of D1!!
Night all!
This post struck me as scummy. Andy, while that may be true, it's not worth risking our potential doc for it without a counterclaim, even given BG's valid point.AndyDufresne wrote:It's not beyond the realm of possibility. His 'Lynch me or the mafia will kill me, either way its a sad loss - but such is the way of D1!!' kind of smells like a mafia ploy I've seen before, but we might not be able to do much now.dazza2008 wrote:You think someone might fake claim doc?BGtheBrain wrote:Wow. Glad our doc is an idiot
Now to figure out if he's telling the truth
Unvote
--Andy
