Interesting Mafia! GAME OVER ~ MAFIA WINS ~

[AndyDufresne]

Okay, so I read back through the game, and I think Spiesr's case against Dazza is a decent "day 1" case.

While reading though, I started notice that Edocsil has a tremendously low profile in the game so far, perhaps to point of laying low and out of sight, even after I pointed early on that he's been rather inactive and in need of a prod. He also mentions in regards to voting on SG7 that he "intends to force the game one way or another" (Mon Dec. 12) Edocsil's posts in order:

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Subject: Interesting Mafia! [13/13] - DAY 1 - A Colorful Murder - Thu Dec 01, 2011 9:18 am

That's mine line, off with your HEAD! VOTE SULLY

Subject: Interesting Mafia! [13/13] - DAY 1 - A Colorful Murder - Thu Dec 01, 2011 7:46 pm

Iduno, that's going out on a bit of a limb there..

Subject: Interesting Mafia! [13/13] - DAY 1 - A Colorful Murder

- Thu Dec 01, 2011 9:00 pm
Unvote Andy Vote Hippo

For thinking we would miss that he is a double voter.

What?

Subject: Interesting Mafia! [13/13] - DAY 1 - A Colorful Murder - Wed Dec 07, 2011 5:49 pm

Gah, I got prodded. Anyhow her and reading. I don't joke vote much during finals season. Anyhow, I ate a banana today and it made me sick. It is Andys fault. Unvote Vote Andy

Subject: Interesting Mafia! [13/13] - DAY 1 - A Colorful Murder - Fri Dec 09, 2011 5:17 am

OK this is my 4th Mafia game. In my first game Safari suggested to lynch The Saxlad, who was an inactive. He seems to follow the policy of lynching inactives. One because they are dead weight regardless and second because it may be hard to find a replacement. We lynched the Saxlad who turned out to be our Town Dr.

How is that different then this scenario? We all know that SG7 is away from the site for whatever reason. If it is easy to replace him then do so...if not lynch him.

We can only be patiant for so long.

*grin* I also learned to lynch all liars...so perhaps VS falls into this catagory? (joke)

Safari is playing it cautious. If we peg a town more or less at random like this and he is a driving force behind it he will be in the hot seat. Personally I suspect he is waiting for someone else to pick up the ball and run with it so he can point fingers D2.

Subject: Interesting Mafia! [13/13] - DAY 1 - A Colorful Murder - Fri Dec 09, 2011 6:04 am

Safari is not even playing

He checked the game for balance so if he was playing would it be fair?

Yeah I haven't slept for something like 30 hours. Perhaps I shouldn't be posting. I didn't think twice after reading irons post.

Subject: Interesting Mafia! [13/13] - DAY 1 - A Colorful Murder - Fri Dec 09, 2011 7:00 am

OMGUS from hippo or no?
I'm still learning proper use of abbreviations but from what I've been told it fits the criteria

That is Oh My God You Suck worthy and is in the region of potential Finger of Suspicion.

Subject: Interesting Mafia! [13/13] - DAY 1 - A Colorful Murder - Mon Dec 12, 2011 11:15 am

he asked not to be replaced yet he refuses to post, that's just stupid and lynchworthy to me.

If we lynch him now, what do we gain? (Besides him being gone.) It would be better if he was either replaced, or he came back we had some discussion and then he got lynched.

We gain one less idiot in the game how doesn't feel that it is worth his time to post here. Unvote vote Shield I would find a replacement acceptable, but I intend to force the game one way or another.

Subject: Interesting Mafia! [13/13] - DAY 1 - A Colorful Murder - Mon Dec 12, 2011 1:40 pm

What is the case you are on about BG?

Ok
Hippo votes Shield to put him at L-1
He gets called out and then unvotes waiting for a replacement

Replacement doesnt come, shield doesnt talk any more.

he then revotes AND gives VS grief over VS asking for a "Day" but then never revoting

Then he unvotes again asking for replacement.

I call him out and he responds with a blatant OMGUS on me after I vote him.

Now he is back to pressuring SG even though the mod says he is trying to find a replacement.

I had a nice post with quotes and crap, but closed the wrong tab when I went to post it.

Fastposted: And now SG is back.

I see this as the best case currently available besides cutting out the useless players. that being said the case is real weak, I am not certain it is really worth a wagon.

Subject: Interesting Mafia! [13/13] - DAY 1 - A Colorful Murder - Tue Dec 13, 2011 12:50 am

we can decide after his post if we still want to lynch him.

Well, being that at least 90% of the "case" against Shield was that he was going to be useless, and that Strike probably won't be, I don't see why we would unless a deadline comes up on us really fast and we decide that that lynch is better than no lynch.

I am going to go with not useless too Unvote

Subject: Interesting Mafia! [13/13] - DAY 1 - A Colorful Murder - Sat Dec 17, 2011 12:04 pm

unvote, last vote was still pressure from the replacement.

I have no game altering case to bring at the moment sadly, I am just waiting for something to come up.

Subject: Interesting Mafia! [13/13] - DAY 1 - A Colorful Murder - Fri Dec 23, 2011 1:26 pm

Yeah, this is really starting to smell like a NL, having a lynch over the holiday is unlikely.

Overall, it seems like he is coasting through the game so far, throwing a vote when he can and "just waiting for something to come up." We've all been somewhat inactive, but his posting stood out to me while reviewing everything. His contributions have been slim in general.

Based on all of this, I am going to...

Vote Edocsil


--Andy

[MoB Deadly]

Day 1 - Vote Count 21

AndyDufresne -
BGtheBrain -
(3) dazza2008 - spiesr, zimmah, Leehar
(1) edocsil - AndyDufresne
Gilligan -
Iron Butterfly -
Leehar -
strike wolf -
soundman -
spiesr -
thehippo8 -
Victor Sullivan -
zimmah -


With 13 players alive, it takes 7 votes to Lynch or No Lynch.

5 Days until deadline!

[edocsil]

I wont make an illegitimate case that isn't going to make it before deadline unless we rampantly BW some one. Problem? I don't joke vote much D1 and i get to the point rather then make massive posts. if I wasn't concerned about some misguided BW attempt to wrap up the day, I likely wouldn't even respond.

[MoB Deadly]

Deadline: Less than 48 hours: Wednesday morning

[strike wolf]

Deadline: Less than 48 hours: Wednesday morning

The deadline would come just as my time on CC was about to increase. Well short answer. I have reread a bit but don't have time to read into everything I would like to. with 48 hours left. I favor Dazza over an edoc lynch as from what I remember Edoc usually is not one of the more active players day 1 anyways.

vote dazza

[BGtheBrain]

****

[MoB Deadly]

Day 1 - Vote Count 22

AndyDufresne -
BGtheBrain -
(5, L-2) dazza2008 - spiesr, zimmah, Leehar, strike wolf, BGtheBrain
(1) edocsil - AndyDufresne
Gilligan -
Iron Butterfly -
Leehar -
strike wolf -
soundman -
spiesr -
thehippo8 -
Victor Sullivan -
zimmah -


With 13 players alive, it takes 7 votes to Lynch or No Lynch.

Deadline 8:00 AM EST Wednesday morning (~23 hours)

[dazza2008]

L-2. Guess I better claim. I am backup cop. So no use now but pretty handy if we lose the cop. I hoped not to have to claim as I could be useful later in the game.

[soundman]

L-2. Guess I better claim. I am backup cop. So no use now but pretty handy if we lose the cop. I hoped not to have to claim as I could be useful later in the game.

Well that's... interesting... Do you only get a night action if the real cop dies? In any other game I'd say you're lying but this is something I think Mob may put in...

[zimmah]

hmm, a backup cop, i know that role exist but... how likely is it in a 13 player game?

[strike wolf]

L-2. Guess I better claim. I am backup cop. So no use now but pretty handy if we lose the cop. I hoped not to have to claim as I could be useful later in the game.

Well that's... interesting... Do you only get a night action if the real cop dies? In any other game I'd say you're lying but this is something I think Mob may put in...

It's usually called a deputy. It's hard to prove because he wouldn't be able to use any abilities until the real cop died so it is hard to say if he is telling the truth or not.

[Gilligan]

Remember: this is called "interesting" mafia...Although I have never heard of a backup cop, it could very well exist in this game...

[Gilligan]

I'm going to go ahead and vote dazza mainly because of the reasons strike said. It can't really be proven, so I fell as though it'd be a safe lynch.

[MoB Deadly]

Day 1 - Vote Count 23

AndyDufresne -
BGtheBrain -
(6, L-1) dazza2008 - spiesr, zimmah, Leehar, strike wolf, BGtheBrain, Gilligan
(1) edocsil - AndyDufresne
Gilligan -
Iron Butterfly -
Leehar -
strike wolf -
soundman -
spiesr -
thehippo8 -
Victor Sullivan -
zimmah -


With 13 players alive, it takes 7 votes to Lynch or No Lynch.

Deadline 8:00 AM EST Wednesday morning (~Approx 7 hours and 45 minutes.)




Any votes after the deadline will not be counted. Regardless if I posted at 8am signaling Day is over or not.

[zimmah]

Remember: this is called "interesting" mafia...Although I have never heard of a backup cop, it could very well exist in this game...

well it is an "interesting" claim but like has been pointed out it's very hard to check so it's a very good fakeclaim as well. on top of that it could potentially hurt town if we do lose a role like that (given that we may lose the cop in a later stage. if there even is a cop in the first place)

[zimmah]

unvote

[dazza2008]

L-2. Guess I better claim. I am backup cop. So no use now but pretty handy if we lose the cop. I hoped not to have to claim as I could be useful later in the game.

Well that's... interesting... Do you only get a night action if the real cop dies? In any other game I'd say you're lying but this is something I think Mob may put in...

It's usually called a deputy. It's hard to prove because he wouldn't be able to use any abilities until the real cop died so it is hard to say if he is telling the truth or not.

We play mafia in my clan forum and where the role has been used there it was called backup cop. I assume MoB got the idea from there. He was not in the clan when we played these games but they are all still in our forum so maybe he got some ideas from there.

[MoB Deadly]

What a long day in Colorful Town.... Everyone pointed some fingers, and they got a couple players to claim their role in the town. But they did not believe they have found any black-hearted individuals... They decided to stop talking for the day and resume discussion tomorrow.

Day 1 has ended with No Lynch!

It is now Night 1! Please send in night actions as soon as possible.

Deadline: Friday, December 30th at about 4:00 PM EST.

(It is really hard to judge the level of activity here with the eccentric posting we have... If I find multiple players have not sent in their night actions, I will extend the night deadline generously to accommodate the holidays.)

[MoB Deadly]

Night Deadline has been extended. As you all know I PMed everyone the moment I switched it to night 1, I have multiple players that have not even opened that PM. I will update it back to day as soon as possible.

[MoB Deadly]

The Colorful Village woke up again after a long sleep. They needed to find out who was responsible for the murder the night before. As they made their way back to the town square a couple people found colorful blood on the ground. The blood was in a trail. They followed the blood for a few minutes to an alleyway. Then they found a body.

EDOCSIL - TOWN DOCTOR - HAS BEEN KILLED! Upon further examination, there seemed to of been a struggle. He was riddled with bullets at close range.


After mourning his death, they moved back to the Town square, scared for their own life. Will they find any evidence of the killer today?

DAY 2 START!! I hope to not enforce a deadline, but let's make sure the activity picks up after the holidays. With 12 players alive it takes 7 votes to Lynch or No Lynch

[dazza2008]

Did Hippo not claim doctor?

[spiesr]

Okay Hippo, you claimed Town Doctor, but now we have Edocsil turning up dead as Town Doctor. So, what it up with that? Was it just a fake-claim that has now been countered, or do you have some sort of explanation for why there would be 2 Town Doctors? Either way, I think we are going to need to hear what sort of action you took last night.

Now, Edocsil was the doctor, so why didn't he counter Hippo's claim in that case. (Or at least do something the raise doubts about the claim.) Hippo claimed doctor on the 14th.

I am the Town Doctor. Lynch me or the mafia will kill me, either way its a sad loss - but such is the way of D1!!

Edocsil didn't post after this claim until the 17th where he took his vote of Shield/Strike and made no mention of anything relating to Hippo's claim or the case on Hippo at all.

unvote, last vote was still pressure from the replacement.
I have no game altering case to bring at the moment sadly, I am just waiting for something to come up.

By this point in time, Hippo's claim was essentially universally believed. Now, of course a counter-claim would pretty much instantly turn that belief around. However, in my opinion, the state of affairs by that point in time was such that if edocsil voted for or raised suspicions on Hippo without offering the counter-claim he would not have gotten anywhere. Either he would have had his cries ignored/dismissed, or he would have been attacked for going after the claimed doc. So, it appears he was in a situation where his choices amounted to either make the counter/claim, or simply let Hippo go unopposed. Now, why would he go with the decision to let Hippo go free. All I can think of is that he either wasn't entirely sure that Hippo's claim was false, or for some reason he considered him counter-claiming to not be worth lynching Hippo.

Anyhow, unless you can come up with some explanation for why there would be two Town Doctors I will have to lynch you Hippo...

[edocsil]

Ah well, good luck town. I had hoped to live a lot longer. Spiesr kinda understands why I didn't cc.

[Iron Butterfly]

Ok either there are two docs in the game or Hippo is lieing through his teeth. In going through the archives I have yet to see a game with two docs.

VOTE HIPPO

[Victor Sullivan]

Hippo is gone anyway. Might as well lynch him. I see no reason not to, especially since he already claimed.

Vote thehippo8

-Sully