Eurasia Map [Old thread]

[natty dread]

An idea I've been considering but am not sure if I want to do...

How about merging European Russia to the Eastern Europe superbonus, and renaming the remaining Russia superbonus as Asian Russia?

Currently, it seems like the West + East europe is a really strong bonus combination, compared to other areas that give similar troop bonus. Adding more land to it would balance things a bit. Also, the European Russia area really is considered part of Europe, so this would highlight the Europe-Asia dichotomy on the map.

However, on the other hand, Russia is still one country, and I'm not sure if dividing it between two superareas would make sense?

Anyway, let's hear opinions on this.

[koontz1973]

It makes sense to move European Russia to the European bonuses. I would only suggest you then swap out the colour with Central Russia.

From a GP point,you have enough small bonuses spread around in the East so Europe may not be as strong as it first looks. Lots of small bonuses mean more players concentrate there early GP there making it harder to grab and hold.

[natty dread]

I would change the colours, obviously.

Another upside with the change would be that the remaining Russia would be more feasible to hold, as currently it - as a superbonus - is kind of an Asia to the map...

Anyway, I'd like to hear more opinions, since this is a major change and not something I'm at all sure about.

[natty dread]

Ok this is by no means a final decision, but I didn't have anything better to do so I made this to see how the change would look.

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[isaiah40]

In all honesty, I think this will work out pretty good IMHO.

[natty dread]

In all honesty, I think this will work out pretty good IMHO.

Which? The current version or the proposed change?

As in, the one on this page or the one on page 1?

[isaiah40]

the one on this page

This!!

[natty dread]

Thanks. I'm going to wait to hear some more opinions though, I don't want to make a hasty decision on this...

[natty dread]

While waiting for further opinions I did some small gameplay tweaks to the alt. branch - I reduced the value of Siberia since it seemed to me like it shouldn't be that strong of an area, and added a sea route between Novaya Zemlya & Svalbard.

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[Geger]

I like this new one.

Btw, you can call Asian Russia with More Russia (inspired from doodle earth). Ha ha ha just kidding

[natty dread]

Ha ha, no way in hell...

I'm still not sure if this new arrangement makes sense though. Mainly, as it splits Russia into two different areas... The gameplay is more balanced this way I think, but not sure if it's better thematically.

[The Bison King]

I think I do prefer this new version

[koontz1973]

Ha ha, no way in hell...

I'm still not sure if this new arrangement makes sense though. Mainly, as it splits Russia into two different areas... The gameplay is more balanced this way I think, but not sure if it's better thematically.

It makes perfect sense. Russia is split between the two continents.

[J_Indr]

I also prefer the new version.
As for making sense... you don't always use strict political splits in larger regions and continent bonuses -> e.g. India Subcontinent splits India in half, while adding other states (Bangladesh, Pakistan) in the mix. And since one could als0 argue that there is a real divide between European Russia and its territory behind the Urals, it does not bring up any obvious issue.

Could you try to do a next version with army numbers? Some territories seem to be rather small - e.g. Switzerland, Tajikistan, etc.

[natty dread]

There is a version with army numbers somewhere here... maybe a page or two backwards.

[AndyDufresne]

All of my thumbs are up for the new version.


--Andy

[natty dread]

Ok, so far all of the feedback seems to be pretty positive... unless I hear any contrary points of view soon I'm going to go forward with the new version.

[natty dread]

Ok, since no one seems to be complaining, I'm going ahead with this version.

Fixed some territory labels and tweaked the colours a bit.

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I think the gameplay is starting to be pretty much done now... a gp check would be welcome about now.

[pamoa]

I suggest you to switch Near East and Middle East name
it would be more accurate geographically

another suggestion is for Turkics
maybe Central Asia

[natty dread]

I suggest you to switch Near East and Middle East name
it would be more accurate geographically

How? As far as I know the terms are used pretty much interchangeably.

I could rename Near East to Western Asia, but that wouldn't be totally accurate either, and I'd like to minimize the amount of cardinal direction-based names where possible...

another suggestion is for Turkics
maybe Central Asia

Hm. That could work actually...

[pamoa]

I suggest you to switch Near East and Middle East name
it would be more accurate geographically

How? As far as I know the terms are used pretty much interchangeably.
I could rename Near East to Western Asia, but that wouldn't be totally accurate either, and I'd like to minimize the amount of cardinal direction-based names where possible...

Well "near" suggest a closer and less extended area than "middle"
plus if you go for Central Asia "middle" will cover "near" and "central"

[natty dread]

Well "near" suggest a closer and less extended area than "middle"
plus if you go for Central Asia "middle" will cover "near" and "central"

Ok, fair enough.

[natty dread]

Here goes

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[AndyDufresne]

If I had more thumbs, they would be up.


--Andy

[natty dread]

That's good, I'll just add them to my collection of monkey thumbs.

So, I guess there's no further gameplay input?