FOX News: "Women in the Military Deserve to be Raped!"

[the carpet man]

Oh, I see. You equate women who drink alcohol with waving your wallet in a favela?

In other words... women who drink are inviting rape by being drunk?

women who get drunk and leave a club alone, i said. and yes, it is a risk. you are stupid if you think that is not a risky behavior. you think it is not risky to do this?

it is all very well to say 'people should not rape', but they do, and you have to be alert to this risk. you can not just say 'it should not happen' and wander around with your head in a cloud, getting angry when it does. you have to take precaution and responsibility for your own life. do not endanger yourself if you do not want danger.

What's wrong about talking about feelings?

in normal life, nothing. but this is the army. fighting and combat is no place for crying about your past loves.

[Woodruff]

What's wrong about talking about feelings?

in normal life, nothing. but this is the army. fighting and combat is no place for crying about your past loves.

You do realize that the type of unthinking psychopath you seem to believe would be good in the military is actually very much a detriment in the military.

[natty dread]

women who get drunk and leave a club alone, i said. and yes, it is a risk. you are stupid if you think that is not a risky behavior. you think it is not risky to do this?

Actually, no I don't. Over 90% of rapes are performed by someone the victim knows, not some mysterious stranger on a dark alleyway.

Of course, it's easier to just think that all rapists are shady perverts lurking at bushes, rather than to suspect everyone you know of being a secret rapist.

So anyway, you're saying if a woman drinks and leaves a club alone, and then gets raped, it's her own fault? That's kind of sexist, and by "kind of" I mean "a whole fucking lot of".

[the carpet man]

i laugh. i served in my home country and the chicken men got killed first. in the trials of war you need to be tough and never let up. you can cry when you get home if you want to.

[natty dread]

i laugh. i served in my home country and the chicken men got killed first. in the trials of war you need to be tough and never let up. you can cry when you get home if you want to.

This is total bs and you know it. You've never served anywhere or seen anyone get killed.

[the carpet man]

natty: so the man she knows follows her out? use your mind.

i did not say it is her fault. but there is a risk she has not considered. i say that she must also acknowledge her mistake, not just say the wrongdoer is the only cause. you can say 'sexist' if you want but that is a stupid reaction that only avoids the issue at hand.

(p.s. i would also love to know how you still know so much about my life? how do you know i have never served? do not talk of what you don't know of, chicken man)

[Night Strike]

Conservatives hate women.

Liberals hate men.

[natty dread]

natty: so the man she knows follows her out? use your mind.

That's not how it works. Statistically, it's safer for a drunken woman to walk home alone than it is for her to walk home with a man she knows.

So no, you can't blame women for going out alone drunk, because that's not the situation where women usually get raped.

i did not say it is her fault. but there is a risk she has not considered. i say that she must also acknowledge her mistake

How hypocritical can you get? You claim you don't blame the woman, yet almost the next sentence you turn around and say she has to "acknowledge her mistake". And what "mistake" is that? Being a woman? Daring to do things without male supervision?

Sexism aside, this victim-blaming bullshit is plain idiotic. It's like, if you go to a supermarket and some crazy guy shoots you in the left asscheek with a crossbow, can I then tell you that you have to "acknowledge your mistake" of going to the supermarket without wearing a steel assplate?

not just say the wrongdoer is the only cause.

Um, if the woman didn't ask to get raped, then the rapist absolutely is the only cause for the rape.

you can say 'sexist' if you want but that is a stupid reaction that only avoids the issue at hand.

Well, if it walks like a duck and talks like a duck, I call it a duck. And so far, you've been doing a lot of quacking.

p.s. i would also love to know how you still know so much about my life

I'm psychic.

[pimpdave]

Conservatives hate women.

Liberals hate men.

[Woodruff]

i laugh. i served in my home country and the chicken men got killed first. in the trials of war you need to be tough and never let up. you can cry when you get home if you want to.

That's proabably why our military is superior to yours.

[the carpet man]

aha. is this serious? i assume you are from usa, the military which shoots its own troops by mistake more than it shoots the enemy. and you call yourself superior? the only reason your military has success is because it has money and technology.

[Woodruff]

the only reason your military has success is because it has money and technology.

So you agree that we're superior. Thanks.

[the carpet man]

the money and technology make up for the chicken men, if what you have said is okay to trust

[oVo]

I suppose technology trumps lunacy when the lambs lead the wolves into the slaughterhouse and still there remains no situation --regardless of what some idiots believe-- where a woman deserves to be sexually assaulted.

[Haggis_McMutton]

now it's Romania

Sweden now.

[Symmetry]

now it's Romania

Sweden now.

It's always fun to see where he's proxying from.

[Lootifer]

Whats your point then Carpet? What is your ideal military look like?

[the carpet man]

Whats your point then Carpet? What is your ideal military look like?

i was saying that emotion and similar have no place within fighting and combat. if a soldier is in a situation where people are trying to kill him then it is useless to have his brother complaining about his rights and crying about how the commander gives him less food. if his brother wants to be a little boy then he can leave the army and go cry to his mother.

a man who experiences a difficult time in his army camp and complains about it, goes crying, is not going to be a good soldier in the mayhem of war.

[Lootifer]

what about in the context of this thread? ie woman in the front line military?

[Aradhus]

Wow, consider me shocked. Conservatives being reprehensible douchebags in this thread.. I just, can't believe it..

Since some of you people think it is ok to punish an entire group of people based on the actions of a few, why don't we punish the people where the few come from and ban men from the military. Problem solved.

I do love this line of argumentation you guys are going with though. You know, that male soldiers are scum? Solid argument, right there.

[saxitoxin]

if i walk through a favela of rio de janeiro waving my wallet around going 'i have money'

I do this frequently; sauntering confidently about the favelas in my short shorts with my wallet in one hand, a stick of cotton candy in the other and a fifth of rum in my front pocket. Much hilarity ensues as the locals yell "hey, Saxi!" (I'm well known in parts of Rio), "is that a fifth of rum in your pocket or are you just happy to see us?!" That joke's an oldie but a goodie. Usually at this point Es will roar up in her '78 El Camino and shout "we're late for mamba, papi, let's shag ass!" whereupon I jump in the back seat and we burn rubber.

[Lootifer]

Did you spend some time with Hunter S in your hey-day ole Sax?

[saxitoxin]

Did you spend some time with Hunter S in your hey-day ole Sax?

I'M IN MY HEY DAY, YOU ASSHOLE.

[QoH]

now it's Romania

Sweden now.

And now Germany... Damn this guy travels a lot.

[Haggis_McMutton]

now it's Romania

Sweden now.

And now Germany... Damn this guy travels a lot.

Wonder why he needs to hide behind a proxy. Could he be ... *gasp* ... one of the chicken men ?