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Day 1 - Vote Count 5


crazymilkshake5 -
(4, L-3) edocsil - spurgistan, mc05025, Leehar, shieldgenerator7
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(1) Leehar - edocsil
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With 12 players alive, it takes 7 votes to Lynch or No Lynch. Deadline in 4 days 4pm EST.



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Sorry for the lack of activity. Please be patient as I recover from an illness. If my activity drops below expectations, I understand if I must be replaced.

Apologies,

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Leehar wrote:Deadline Thursday evening?

And sg, you can't really call someone who's at least voted, quiet
Au contraire. It is most definitely possible to vote yet remain quiet. Vote Leehar
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Victor Sullivan wrote:Sorry for the lack of activity. Please be patient as I recover from an illness. If my activity drops below expectations, I understand if I must be replaced.

Apologies,

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jgordon1111 wrote:
everywhere116 wrote:
jgordon1111 wrote:And you will notice my vote isnt on that wagon (yet) you havent made a scum slip that would put it there
You are Most Definitely Not A Mage
why would you say something like that everywhere, dont take my post to mean anything in particular

where yours on the other hand points to you being one most likely that was a bad move on your behalf,now let wait on your twin to try and back you out of this.
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Victor Sullivan wrote:Sorry for the lack of activity. Please be patient as I recover from an illness. If my activity drops below expectations, I understand if I must be replaced.

Apologies,

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Get Well Sully!! I won't look for a replacement yet, if players would like a replacement just say so in the thread and I will start looking, I will leave it up to you guys.
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Eh, I generally like sully and would not request a replacement. I apologize for my inactivity, I was either running around trying to get a job (friday and saturday) and volunteered today (then snowball fought with neighbors).

I will re-read what has been said when I get energy and time tomorrow and try to post something of substance.
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I vote that we wait on sully
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we could, but we dont know how long he will be sick, and so i think we should try to come up with a case while he recovers and then be able to lay out what we have to him when he gets back so we can progress more.
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crazymilkshake5 wrote:I vote that we wait on sully
Why?

What has he to offer that is so revolutionary?
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Hes just a cool person, haha ask anybody
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He definitely is uhhh...something... he is though very clever though
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lol, I thought he was already back, but yeah either way, I don't really see how he's a game-stopper for everyone?
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Ya in most games I see him in its just flavor so I don't think he will make a difference
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Vote guys. 2 days left only. We absolutely need a kill on day 1. At the first night 2 of us will die and we will have no informations at all.
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Good point mc.

I have to say, if we were to have a quick lynch at this point it'd probably be edoc b/c he's currently the closest to the chopping block. But seriously, I think that'd be a bad move b/c then we'd be down an experienced player.

So if we must get a lynch I say let's go for an inactive (there aren't too many :) ):
mc05025 - page 11
Clever - page 11
Leehar - page 11
crazy milkshake - page 11
edoc - page 11
new guy - page 11
ghostly - page 11
MOB - page 11
everywhere - page 11
spurgistan - page 11
VS - page 11
jgordon - page 10

The higher on the lsit, the more recently the player has posted. By this list we should either lynch Sully or jgordon.
NOTE: I did not count amount of posts. You won't believe this but it took me a long while searching through to page 5 trying to find the missing 4 players to get it to 16... then realized there are only 12 players. But I was still one short... then I realized I forgot to include myself! Silly me!

So we gotta do something quick or we go into night with a no lynch and practically no info.

UNVOTE

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and still reading and waiting SG7,someone will slip soon enough,watch they cant help it for some reason.
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mc05025 wrote:Vote guys. 2 days left only. We absolutely need a kill on day 1. At the first night 2 of us will die and we will have no informations at all.
3 days. But your point is valid. Edocsil will be lynched if the voting record stays like this, and he hasn't acted scummy in the slightest.

The person I'm looking at is jgordon, mainly because of his actions on the last page. First, he was very quick to remind edocsil and us all that he hasn't hopped on the bandwagon yet. I replied with a link to TVTropes implying that he is talking too much about his innocence. He responds with a vitriolic rant against me accusing me of being a mage and waiting for my partner to defend me. This seems odd, considering that he most likely would not have such an emotional response for what could easily by taken as a joke, similar to what he was doing on the last page as well. It reminds me of
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a scene from Malcom in the Middle where the Krelboynes made Dabnie lie about being locked out of "his" room to gain access to the room that the quiz bowl officials were staying in. The entire time he is incredibly nervous and after he gets the door opened by a maid he tells her as she walks away "I have been swimming!"
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the typical reaction from a closeted homosexual when you, jokingly or not, call him gay or accuse him of being a homosexual. Usually he will react and say "I'M NOT GAY, I'M STRAIGHTER THAN ALL YOU FAGGOTS! I WANT TO THAT STRIP JOINT AND SPANKED ALL THOSE BITCHES, YOU HEAR ME! I SPANK HOES!!!!"
In conclusion, because of his constant reminders of his innocence and his own overreaction to the insinuation that his reminders are too much, I think that jgordon is acting the scummiest out of all of us and deserves to by lynched.

Unvote vote jgordon

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alright, that was the nudge I was looking for.

VOTE jgordon

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there you are everywhere LOL if you call that overreacting from me you havent been in a game with me overreacting when someone calls me out.

and because you called me out 2 times for nothing,and trying to create evidence against meVote everywhere for trying to hide his mistakes twice.

I have learned a little patience everywhere,someone will slip and you did.

nothing to hide here this game, thats why I didnt overreact as you claim

Ah fast posted By SG7, ok lets get this going then
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everywhere116 wrote:
mc05025 wrote:Vote guys. 2 days left only. We absolutely need a kill on day 1. At the first night 2 of us will die and we will have no informations at all.
3 days. But your point is valid. Edocsil will be lynched if the voting record stays like this, and he hasn't acted scummy in the slightest.

The person I'm looking at is jgordon, mainly because of his actions on the last page. First, he was very quick to remind edocsil and us all that he hasn't hopped on the bandwagon yet. I replied with a link to TVTropes implying that he is talking too much about his innocence. He responds with a vitriolic rant against me accusing me of being a mage and waiting for my partner to defend me. This seems odd, considering that he most likely would not have such an emotional response for what could easily by taken as a joke, similar to what he was doing on the last page as well. It reminds me of
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a scene from Malcom in the Middle where the Krelboynes made Dabnie lie about being locked out of "his" room to gain access to the room that the quiz bowl officials were staying in. The entire time he is incredibly nervous and after he gets the door opened by a maid he tells her as she walks away "I have been swimming!"
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the typical reaction from a closeted homosexual when you, jokingly or not, call him gay or accuse him of being a homosexual. Usually he will react and say "I'M NOT GAY, I'M STRAIGHTER THAN ALL YOU FAGGOTS! I WANT TO THAT STRIP JOINT AND SPANKED ALL THOSE BITCHES, YOU HEAR ME! I SPANK HOES!!!!"
In conclusion, because of his constant reminders of his innocence and his own overreaction to the insinuation that his reminders are too much, I think that jgordon is acting the scummiest out of all of us and deserves to by lynched.

Unvote vote jgordon

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jgordon1111 wrote:there you are everywhere LOL if you call that overreacting from me you havent been in a game with me overreacting when someone calls me out.

and because you called me out 2 times for nothing,and trying to create evidence against meVote everywhere for trying to hide his mistakes twice.

I have learned a little patience everywhere,someone will slip and you did.

nothing to hide here this game, thats why I didnt overreact as you claim

Ah fast posted By SG7, ok lets get this going then
Gonna go with Jgordon here. Though neither case is strong, I feel everywhere is using weak evidence. The majority of us end up SEEMING like we are flipping out, but really it is just the need to assert ourselves to the point where people know that the case we have is stronger (whether it be deflecting the case, or pitting our case against another). By talking like we know what we're doing, we could even be the mafia and still convince the town that we are town by having the stronger case going in, and forcing the other person/group to break down on their own case (I have done it before on a couple accounts myself. Where and when are not important).

I generally do not trust everywhere's case against jgordon and will hope that I pick the right one here. But we will see the claim I suppose and assess it from there. So with that I vote everywhere. Hope for the best I do suppose.
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So, essentially, ghostly, a logically presented argument is more scummy than an emotional outburst? I don't follow.

Also, you said that the evidence is weak. Perhaps, but not for day 1. We have three days left until a lynch is forced. We have to pick the person who we think is scummiest based on today's talking, and that's all we have to go on. gordon has been presenting classic scumtells, and being relatively new and emotional, he would be susceptible to them. That's why I presented a case against him, and that's why I voted for him.
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everywhere116 wrote:So, essentially, ghostly, a logically presented argument is more scummy than an emotional outburst? I don't follow.

Also, you said that the evidence is weak. Perhaps, but not for day 1. We have three days left until a lynch is forced. We have to pick the person who we think is scummiest based on today's talking, and that's all we have to go on. gordon has been presenting classic scumtells, and being relatively new and emotional, he would be susceptible to them. That's why I presented a case against him, and that's why I voted for him.
essentially, humans see logic in a logical argument. Its how mafia need to play to win. They either have to go the whole game under the radar which is near impossible, or bend and twist things to look like logical arguments, because knowing they themselves are mafia, they know that everything they say will be pointing in the wrong direction (unless theres a 3rd party and they rat them out).

Please list the classic scumtells. Right now I do not see anything except a bit of an over reaction. I chose my side of the cases, and even if I am incorrect in the case I pick, it does not make it my permanent opinion. Therefore, if I see something against jgordon that makes me firmly believe he is scum, I will vote for him and pressure him even past a claim if its that strong of an opinion.
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and also, by taking sides, It creates discussion. And if, say, I were to protect him for a long while then he breaks the entire case I used to defend him with down by going against it, it allows us, effectively, to more easily judge the scum slips as major cases. IF that makes any sense, and IF you trust that the player defending a suspected scum is town.
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everywhere116 wrote:So, essentially, ghostly, a logically presented argument is more scummy than an emotional outburst? I don't follow.

Also, you said that the evidence is weak. Perhaps, but not for day 1. We have three days left until a lynch is forced. We have to pick the person who we think is scummiest based on today's talking, and that's all we have to go on. gordon has been presenting classic scumtells, and being relatively new and emotional, he would be susceptible to them. That's why I presented a case against him, and that's why I voted for him.
But as I said everywhere what you are trying to claim as an emotional outburst from me is quite incorrect. Not emotional for me at all LOL.

and by going back to sign up where you are talking to me and MOB tells you about M mafia you went and looked at that game,so you are aware of what an emotional outburst from me looks like ;)

And by trying to create false evidence against me,you actually look scummy now. I thought you would do better than that,as someone who has modded a game I thought you would avoid making those kind of mistakes.

But like I say wait long enough and someone will slip. You did now there is no backing up

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