Battle of the Bulge - CLOSED

[new guy1]

Well obviously, your our town doctor. What doctor would approve of this? And why dont we see if we can get some of the VT's who are offering less conversation then safari to hammer? It would make more sense to me since safari is active in the forum and some are not (if there are more VT's). Just my five cents worth.

[safariguy5]

Well obviously, your our town doctor. What doctor would approve of this? And why dont we see if we can get some of the VT's who are offering less conversation then safari to hammer? It would make more sense to me since safari is active in the forum and some are not (if there are more VT's). Just my five cents worth.

Activity should not be an issue here. If we have inactives, I'm willing to replace one if ghostly deems I'm eligible.

If I don't survive, I did mention a couple times that this case on chap by jak seems a bit lyncherish to me. Pardon my wild mandy theory here, but I could totally see jak being a mafia usurper or maybe town traitor style role. If chap turns up mafia, I suggest we take another hard look at jak as I really didn't see anything that turned up super mafia scumslip. For reference, see VioIet's Town Traitor play in Firefly Mafia. The similarities in case pursuing is food for thought.

vote chapcrap

[jak111]

Well obviously, your our town doctor. What doctor would approve of this? And why dont we see if we can get some of the VT's who are offering less conversation then safari to hammer? It would make more sense to me since safari is active in the forum and some are not (if there are more VT's). Just my five cents worth.

Activity should not be an issue here. If we have inactives, I'm willing to replace one if ghostly deems I'm eligible.

If I don't survive, I did mention a couple times that this case on chap by jak seems a bit lyncherish to me. Pardon my wild mandy theory here, but I could totally see jak being a mafia usurper or maybe town traitor style role. If chap turns up mafia, I suggest we take another hard look at jak as I really didn't see anything that turned up super mafia scumslip. For reference, see VioIet's Town Traitor play in Firefly Mafia. The similarities in case pursuing is food for thought.

vote chapcrap

Well, hopefully you make it through the lynch, and I guess you will just have to take another look at me, although I can't guarantee much.

[pmchugh]

Man saf you just made my head explode. He is actually at L-1, I can't tell if saf knew this or not. His post seemed legit, but that doesn't change anything if chap is still scum.

Dj, everywhere, myself and saf added votes since the last VC. That gives him 8 votes with 9 to lynch.

[jak111]

Actually ya.. one more vote needed o.e

[thechuck51]

And about this happening before. That's precisely why I mentioned Rodion so that he would realize what I was doing. Obviously, I'm not trying to say he's scummy. This was in jest mostly:

So, Rodion votes me, but doesn't believe enough that I am scum to be the hammer?

Although, anyone who thinks I'm super scummy (jak) or who is a VT should have been willing to hammer. All I have really proven is that jak was willing to hammer, something mafia would be very unlikely to do, so I think we can believe his doc claim more now.

As far as who is actually scummy, I'm leaning toward everywhere and newguy1 at the moment.

FASTPOSTED

Because of this post and the fact that Saf will most likely be more beneficial to town than me (in the event that chap is a bomb) I unvote and vote chap

[jak111]

And about this happening before. That's precisely why I mentioned Rodion so that he would realize what I was doing. Obviously, I'm not trying to say he's scummy. This was in jest mostly:

So, Rodion votes me, but doesn't believe enough that I am scum to be the hammer?

Although, anyone who thinks I'm super scummy (jak) or who is a VT should have been willing to hammer. All I have really proven is that jak was willing to hammer, something mafia would be very unlikely to do, so I think we can believe his doc claim more now.

As far as who is actually scummy, I'm leaning toward everywhere and newguy1 at the moment.

FASTPOSTED

Because of this post and the fact that Saf will most likely be more beneficial to town than me (in the event that chap is a bomb) I unvote and vote chap

Alright, good luck Chuck, you're gonna need it. If it makes you feel any better, I am only 10% sure he may be bomb, the other 90% is between mafia, or a town role trying to look dangerous to mafia.

[jgordon1111]

ohhhh ohhhh ohhhh

[chapcrap]

Was that the hammer?

I can't believe town didn't try to have more discussion about it to try to get someone scummy to hammer me. And I would discount anyone who offered to hammer except jak. Especially saf who pretended to hammer, when it was clear that he wasn't the hammer.

So, my scummy list is everyone. I can't tell who is scummy to be honest. I hope some townies with night actions get some sweet information and perhaps another mafia death tonight. Let's go Allies!!!

[pmchugh]

It was a bit rushed, but then you don't expect two people to come straight out and hammer. The deadline was relatively close too.

I sincerely hope that you were jesting with the "go allies" speech

[jak111]

Was that the hammer?

I can't believe town didn't try to have more discussion about it to try to get someone scummy to hammer me. And I would discount anyone who offered to hammer except jak. Especially saf who pretended to hammer, when it was clear that he wasn't the hammer.

So, my scummy list is everyone. I can't tell who is scummy to be honest. I hope some townies with night actions get some sweet information and perhaps another mafia death tonight. Let's go Allies!!!

Well Chap, I hope if anything, you weren't bomb. Though hopefully tomorrow someone will come out about something so we can get the discussions going >.<.

Fasposted by PMC, we're about to find out I guess...

[DoomYoshi]

Well by the time I made I back to discuss chap, the gig was up. I think new guy should've hamered since he was the second most scummy player.

[new guy1]

Yes, I should hammer since you dont know my role. Lets just throw in jak why dont we? Since were trying to get one of the worst situations ever going lets do the absolute worst and let our claimed doc hammer, that way if he is the bomb then we are short two town roles instead of one.

[thechuck51]

I thought I was doing what was best for town but chap's reaction makes me think I just screwed the pooch. My apologies to chap and the town if my hammer was inappropriate.

[new guy1]

I dont think it was inappropriate as it seemed to be what the town wanted. I just hope you werent an important role, as I would find that rather foolish, but a mistake to learn from.

[jak111]

I thought I was doing what was best for town but chap's reaction makes me think I just screwed the pooch. My apologies to chap and the town if my hammer was inappropriate.

Not inappropriate, it cannot be that to play a game. If we're wrong, we're wrong, if we're wrong, i think I might let others create cases for a bit, because if this one fails then I guess my senses will be off.

[chapcrap]

I thought I was doing what was best for town but chap's reaction makes me think I just screwed the pooch. My apologies to chap and the town if my hammer was inappropriate.

Not inappropriate, it cannot be that to play a game. If we're wrong, we're wrong, if we're wrong, i think I might let others create cases for a bit, because if this one fails then I guess my senses will be off.

Then you might want to take a seat on the bench for a couple of innings.

And chuck, I think that is a little bit of a copout statement. Doing what town wanted? You need to do what you think is right. AND, even if town wanted it, it doesn't mean that it has to happen immediately. I realize the deadline was getting close, but rest assured, as soon as ghostly came to announce an actual deadline, I would be dead.

[safariguy5]

Was that the hammer?

I can't believe town didn't try to have more discussion about it to try to get someone scummy to hammer me. And I would discount anyone who offered to hammer except jak. Especially saf who pretended to hammer, when it was clear that he wasn't the hammer.

So, my scummy list is everyone. I can't tell who is scummy to be honest. I hope some townies with night actions get some sweet information and perhaps another mafia death tonight. Let's go Allies!!!

Please chap, don't make me laugh.

My first post was to unvote and ready for the hammer, then clever comes and tells me that you were at L-1 and therefore I should hammer. By my count, it was L-2, but with deadline pressure, I figured I might have missed something.

And now chuck goes and hammers for me. Don't say I faked it because I was ready to do so but deadline pressure and other opinions made it so chuck did it.

[everywhere116]

Well, I guess today is over, then. Are we going to lose chuck, Chap?

[Some7hingCLEVER]

Was that the hammer?

I can't believe town didn't try to have more discussion about it to try to get someone scummy to hammer me. And I would discount anyone who offered to hammer except jak. Especially saf who pretended to hammer, when it was clear that he wasn't the hammer.

So, my scummy list is everyone. I can't tell who is scummy to be honest. I hope some townies with night actions get some sweet information and perhaps another mafia death tonight. Let's go Allies!!!

Please chap, don't make me laugh.

My first post was to unvote and ready for the hammer, then clever comes and tells me that you were at L-1 and therefore I should hammer. By my count, it was L-2, but with deadline pressure, I figured I might have missed something.

And now chuck goes and hammers for me. Don't say I faked it because I was ready to do so but deadline pressure and other opinions made it so chuck did it.

so i screwed this up?

[safariguy5]

Was that the hammer?

I can't believe town didn't try to have more discussion about it to try to get someone scummy to hammer me. And I would discount anyone who offered to hammer except jak. Especially saf who pretended to hammer, when it was clear that he wasn't the hammer.

So, my scummy list is everyone. I can't tell who is scummy to be honest. I hope some townies with night actions get some sweet information and perhaps another mafia death tonight. Let's go Allies!!!

Please chap, don't make me laugh.

My first post was to unvote and ready for the hammer, then clever comes and tells me that you were at L-1 and therefore I should hammer. By my count, it was L-2, but with deadline pressure, I figured I might have missed something.

And now chuck goes and hammers for me. Don't say I faked it because I was ready to do so but deadline pressure and other opinions made it so chuck did it.

so i screwed this up?

Hopefully no, I'm just taking issue to chap's blanket statement about how everyone who volunteered the hammer was lying. I certainly wasn't.

And more hopefully, chap was mafia.

[ghostly447]

Official Simplified Vote Count

With 16 alive, it takes 9 to lynch


ChapCrap – Jak111, Rodion, S7C, DoomYoshi, everywhere, djfireside, Safari, thechuck (L-1)
New Guy1 – ChapCrap
S7C – Leehar
Safariguy – SG7
Rodion – New guy1

deadline is 5/24/12 9pm EST (~ 12 hours from now). Concerns, PM me. All votes here ARE correct as far as I know.

[new guy1]

Well, since we're at a deadline and people chose to switch to me instead of away from me, I'll claim.

I'm Maj. F.H. Jackson, WWII pyrotechnician. Basically, I'm a town bomb. I soft claimed this a bunch.

I can't find anything on him beyond a wiki page and a mention in a list of soldiers, anyone got anything better?

I never seen you soft claim this at all (i looked back through all of day 2 and some of day 1), and bomb is a pretty safe mafia claim. Even with the risk of double kill I think this is a pretty decent gamble unvote vote chap

As for who hammers I would ask it not to be jak for obvious reasons. I am willing to do it. Other than myself saf would be a decent option, claimed VT and in my eyes suspicious.

PMC voted though... did you miss it or not? If you can confirm that. I am not familiar with if a mod is allowed to say that or not.

[ghostly447]

Well, since we're at a deadline and people chose to switch to me instead of away from me, I'll claim.

I'm Maj. F.H. Jackson, WWII pyrotechnician. Basically, I'm a town bomb. I soft claimed this a bunch.

I can't find anything on him beyond a wiki page and a mention in a list of soldiers, anyone got anything better?

I never seen you soft claim this at all (i looked back through all of day 2 and some of day 1), and bomb is a pretty safe mafia claim. Even with the risk of double kill I think this is a pretty decent gamble unvote vote chap

As for who hammers I would ask it not to be jak for obvious reasons. I am willing to do it. Other than myself saf would be a decent option, claimed VT and in my eyes suspicious.

PMC voted though... did you miss it or not? If you can confirm that. I am not familiar with if a mod is allowed to say that or not.

All votes are correctly tallied.

[chapcrap]

Well, I guess I'm not dead yet!!

Anyone want blown up or do you want to start believing me?

And I do discount saf's attempt at a hammer and to a lesser extent, chuck's. I said this before they even voted that anyone who offered to hammer after jak did would essentially be discounted. Doesn't mean you aren't actually town, but it in NO WAY should get you any town credit.