Chik-Fil-A 2.0 (D.C. Shooting)

[Phatscotty]

Remember, he has not watched the video, so a discussion about what happened in the video will yield little fruit.

[john9blue]

Not really what I said, which was that calling someone you think is gay "perverted", "literally sick", "infected" and "mentally disordered" is kind of homophobic.

But kudos for the totally irrelevant Obama reference.

he called him infected and mentally disordered because of his bullying nature, not because he's gay (which he might not even be)

He also said that he thought the guy was gay, and manipulated his posts so that it wouldn't look so bad when he started editing them. I think you're being a bit too trusting on this one.

Plus, I've never really heard of bullying described as an infection. Classic homophobia, sure, but like I said, I could let one of the stuff he said go. Mentally disordered, infected, and perverted (surely a sign that he's talking about sexuality)...

How much can you explain away?

wait, so homophobia qualifies as an "infection" yet the militantly intolerant liberal worldview doesn't?

[Symmetry]

Remember, he has not watched the video, so a discussion about what happened in the video will yield little fruit.

What makes you think I haven't watched it? I saw none of the gayness, perversion, literal sickness, infection, or mental disorder that you saw.

[Symmetry]

Not really what I said, which was that calling someone you think is gay "perverted", "literally sick", "infected" and "mentally disordered" is kind of homophobic.

But kudos for the totally irrelevant Obama reference.

he called him infected and mentally disordered because of his bullying nature, not because he's gay (which he might not even be)

He also said that he thought the guy was gay, and manipulated his posts so that it wouldn't look so bad when he started editing them. I think you're being a bit too trusting on this one.

Plus, I've never really heard of bullying described as an infection. Classic homophobia, sure, but like I said, I could let one of the stuff he said go. Mentally disordered, infected, and perverted (surely a sign that he's talking about sexuality)...

How much can you explain away?

wait, so homophobia qualifies as an "infection" yet the militantly intolerant liberal worldview doesn't?

No, Scotty was describing the dude he thought was gay as "infected", as per classic homophobia.

[Symmetry]

I think he's gay

I think it provides tremendous insights into the literal sickness his head is infected with. It truly is a mental disorder and a disease.

Updated from his edited posts after criticism.

[Dukasaur]

http://www.2plus2equals5.net/

Outstanding stuff!

And check out his blog, too!

[Phatscotty]

[Symmetry]

Cute dodge, maybe you can answer your blatant homophobia at some point, rather than spamming the thread,

[Phatscotty]

Looks like my diagnosis of his actions were spot on. He admits..."I lost it!", "I am sorry" "I apologize (for my unacceptable behavior)" "What I said was disgusting, and out of frustration" "I'm blown away by how kind you were to me" etc etc etc

It seems he is rational enough to tell right from wrong. I hope it spreads

[Frigidus]

Looks like my diagnosis of his actions were spot on. He admits..."I lost it!", "I am sorry" "I apologize (for my unacceptable behavior)"

It seems he is rational enough to tell right from wrong. I hope it spreads

Haven't checked in to the thread in a while, but I've got to say that it's funny that we've already gotten to the point where some random guy has become the focal point of the argument. It's like clockwork, really.

[Symmetry]

Looks like my diagnosis of his actions were spot on. He admits..."I lost it!", "I am sorry" "I apologize (for my unacceptable behavior)" "What I said was disgusting, and out of frustration" "I'm blown away by how kind you were to me" etc etc etc

It seems he is rational enough to tell right from wrong. I hope it spreads

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He's a better man than you are, Gunga Din. So are you willing to walk back the homophobia yet?

[john9blue]

translation: "please hire me, somebody, please"

people don't change so quickly. this guy is no exception.

[Symmetry]

translation: "please hire me, somebody, please"

people don't change so quickly. this guy is no exception.

Change from what? Being gay? Being a pervert? Being mentally diseased? Being Infected?

Or the more sane stance of being sorry for being angry? I don't see anything unusual about that.

[Phatscotty]

Looks like my diagnosis of his actions were spot on. He admits..."I lost it!", "I am sorry" "I apologize (for my unacceptable behavior)"

It seems he is rational enough to tell right from wrong. I hope it spreads

Haven't checked in to the thread in a while, but I've got to say that it's funny that we've already gotten to the point where some random guy has become the focal point of the argument. It's like clockwork, really.

The spot light is on him because of his behavior, and more so because of the consequences of his actions. It's a case-in-point demonstration about how this guy, and MANY like him, are the very thing they pretend to be fighting against. He was whipped up into a hateful frenzy, and at least he admits it.

In George Orwell's novel Nineteen Eighty-Four, the Two Minutes' Hate is a daily period in which Party members of the society of Oceania must watch a film depicting the Party's enemies (notably Emmanuel Goldstein and his followers) and express their hatred for them.

I have been going on for about 2 weeks about Nazis and Fascists. When looking back at Hitler and Germany, many of us ask ourselves "how could the German people allow that to happen? How could they stand by and do nothing? Say nothing?" The answer was because of the power structure of the time. You COULDN'T say anything about it, unless you wanted to get shot on sight. Here, we are at the point where you can be put out of business and have many lives destroyed. Again, in a country in which just about every single citizen absolutely TREASURES our Freedom of speech, we have a movement that is seeking to redefine our Freedom, into Freedom from speech. People have remained silent, because they fear the bigotry and the bullying and the mockery of non agreeing with their hijacked redefinitions of what is politically correct and what is no longer. It's not easy to stand with courage, say what you know needs to be said. It's not easy to take constant personal attacks, character assassinations, misquotations and context dropping.

As time goes on, the list of things that you cannot speak grows longer.

[GreecePwns]

I CLEARLY CALLED A MAN I THOUGHT WAS GAY MENTALLY ILL FOR HIS ALLEGED GAYNESS AND ILL DODGE ANYONE CALLING ME OUT ON IT BECAUSE NAZIS FASCISTS AND MENTALLY ILL

Until you clarify what mental illness this man has, this is what we'll assume. Of course, you won't because you're not very good at having actual discussions but you've become very good at I DISAGREE SO NAZIS FASCISTS AND MENTALLY ILL

[john9blue]

translation: "please hire me, somebody, please"

people don't change so quickly. this guy is no exception.

Change from what? Being gay? Being a pervert? Being mentally diseased? Being Infected?

Or the more sane stance of being sorry for being angry? I don't see anything unusual about that.

i would believe him if he suddenly blew up in anger for whatever reason (even though it still would have been indicative of his true beliefs)

but that was not the case at all. his harassment of the chick-fil-a employee was premeditated, without a doubt. he knew exactly what he was doing and i doubt he has changed his views since then... unless the disapproval of many thousands of people has caused him to change his views, in which case he is a sheep and doesn't deserve my respect anyway.

[Phatscotty]

his video had 16 likes, 885 dislikes, before he tried to hurry up and erase it....

[Phatscotty]

I CLEARLY CALLED A MAN I THOUGHT WAS GAY MENTALLY ILL FOR HIS ALLEGED GAYNESS AND ILL DODGE ANYONE CALLING ME OUT ON IT BECAUSE NAZIS FASCISTS AND MENTALLY ILL

Until you clarify what mental illness this man has, this is what we'll assume. Of course, you won't because you're not very good at having actual discussions but you've become very good at I DISAGREE SO NAZIS FASCISTS AND MENTALLY ILL

Troll much? You should trying holding your own post in front of a mirror, then catch the irony.

All the information and examples are there to see, you just have to stop ignoring them and putting your perceptions ahead of reality, not to mention you are acting exactly the way the guy who got fired for bigotry and harassment was acting. But I guess I can repeat the evidence again...or do we just have another example of someone barging in with guns blazing while not having a clue what you are talking about?

What do you think make this guy state that about 8 people a few restaurants down was "30 college kids, probably doing a sit in. I think I'll join them" Clearly, he is considering acting out a fantasy that does not exist. I dare to say, it seems from what we have learned, a lot of mass shooters have similar fantasies. Also, his vitriol was premeditated, showing he is not aware of the difference between right and wrong, so much so, that he uploaded the very evidence that got him fired, and he thought he was being "courageous". Something isn't right in his head, or do you think this is normal???

Does this seem like a sane person to you? Mentally healthy?

[Symmetry]

translation: "please hire me, somebody, please"

people don't change so quickly. this guy is no exception.

Change from what? Being gay? Being a pervert? Being mentally diseased? Being Infected?

Or the more sane stance of being sorry for being angry? I don't see anything unusual about that.

i would believe him if he suddenly blew up in anger for whatever reason (even though it still would have been indicative of his true beliefs)

but that was not the case at all. his harassment of the chick-fil-a employee was premeditated, without a doubt. he knew exactly what he was doing and i doubt he has changed his views since then... unless the disapproval of many thousands of people has caused him to change his views, in which case he is a sheep and doesn't deserve my respect anyway.

But that was the case according to Scotty, that's exactly what Scotty said.

I even quoted Scotty directly on this.

Being annoyed at the dude in a video doesn't really excuse blatant homophobia. What would you require for homophobia to be more apparent?

Cause we have here Scotty saying that he thinks a dude is gay, perverted, mentally ill, and infected for having an argument with a lady in a take out booth.

Then lying about his posts once I pointed out that calling a guy he thinks is gay mentally ill, infected, and perverted kinda homophobic.

What has Scotty done to earn this level of respect from you?

[john9blue]

translation: "please hire me, somebody, please"

people don't change so quickly. this guy is no exception.

Change from what? Being gay? Being a pervert? Being mentally diseased? Being Infected?

Or the more sane stance of being sorry for being angry? I don't see anything unusual about that.

i would believe him if he suddenly blew up in anger for whatever reason (even though it still would have been indicative of his true beliefs)

but that was not the case at all. his harassment of the chick-fil-a employee was premeditated, without a doubt. he knew exactly what he was doing and i doubt he has changed his views since then... unless the disapproval of many thousands of people has caused him to change his views, in which case he is a sheep and doesn't deserve my respect anyway.

But that was the case according to Scotty, that's exactly what Scotty said.

I even quoted Scotty directly on this.

Being annoyed at the dude in a video doesn't really excuse blatant homophobia. What would you require for homophobia to be more apparent?

Cause we have here Scotty saying that he thinks a dude is gay, perverted, mentally ill, and infected for having an argument with a lady in a take out booth.

Then lying about his posts once I pointed out that calling a guy he thinks is gay mentally ill, infected, and perverted kinda homophobic.

What has Scotty done to earn this level of respect from you?

my post had nothing to do with what scotty said. i was responding to your assertion that he was "sorry for being angry"

[Symmetry]

Fair enough, what do you think about Scotty's assertions? That he's gay, perverted, infected... etc.?

[john9blue]

obviously there's some ambiguity about what scotty meant

and i didn't see his edits

so i guess i'm going to believe that scotty doesn't think homosexuality is actually an infection because (presumably) he has a basic understanding of germ theory

my guess is that "infection" was referring, like i said earlier, to a militant liberal mindset

[Phatscotty]

This is actually some really great footage. My favorite part is when a Chik-Fil-A protestor tries to play the race card, and a bunch of black people jump from out of nowhere and get in his face and show him how he is the racist, that's around 6:00. Also, you can tell the other Chik-Fil-A protestor is looking for a fight the entire time. I notice my brotha from anotha motha is in the background from pajamatv, can't wait to see their footage of the circus display.

[Symmetry]

obviously there's some ambiguity about what scotty meant

and i didn't see his edits

so i guess i'm going to believe that scotty doesn't think homosexuality is actually an infection because (presumably) he has a basic understanding of germ theory

my guess is that "infection" was referring, like i said earlier, to a militant liberal mindset

I think you're being generous, but I can see that you took it in a different way than I did, especially given the dishonest edit stuff which was pretty much designed to mislead folks.

I don't think he did this stuff accidentally. Posting in favour of Chick-Fil-A, describing the guy as gay, saying he was infected, diseased, mentally ill, perverted. Editing his posts to mislead people.

As I said before, and as you've done in your posts, one or maybe even two of these could be explained away.

As a whole, it's very difficult to back him up on this.

[Phatscotty]

obviously there's some ambiguity about what scotty meant

and i didn't see his edits

so i guess i'm going to believe that scotty doesn't think homosexuality is actually an infection because (presumably) he has a basic understanding of germ theory

my guess is that "infection" was referring, like i said earlier, to a militant liberal mindset

No, there isn't any ambiguity. Symmetry edited together 3 or 4 separate posts of mine to make fit his own 100% dishonest perception. I don't mind him being a complete jackass in public, ruining his own credibility. I take it as a compliment, all the way. People don't fall on the sword like that over what some particular "idiot" says abut some social issue. He does it because he must stop the idiot from speaking at all costs, no matter how low he needs to go.

in other words, trolling business as usual

Any editing of mine he refers occurred 30 minutes before he thinks I did it, and almost as long before he ever responded to the post in question, and the most ridiculous thing about his trolling is that his claims are time stamped to prove his dishonesty.

The basic fact he is even talking about edits is the biggest show if hypocrisy seen to date, given his entire troll rant is based on him editing 4 posts together